Baking Soda and ACV

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Has anyone used baking soda and ACV to cleanse and condition? How often do you do this? Do you use other cleansing or conditioning products in between? I've been seeing all over Pinterest that it helps with build up and leaves hair "weightless" and I want to know everyone else's opinion and experience.

I currently use Yes to Carrots Shampoo and SM Coconut and Hibiscus conditioner every night. I don't think I'm having any issues with build up and other stuff, but if I can save money that would be better.
~Belle Bohemienne

"If you are depressed you are living in the past. If you are anxious you are living in the future. If you are at peace you are living in the present." -Lao Tzu
I used it for a good 10 months or so. It was tricky to get the moisture/dry balance right, esp after my hair adjusted and its needs changed. Though I found it eventually. I ultimately switched to borax, which I found less drying. The one thing about these rinses… if your hair needs DT or PT treatments then your shampoo/conditioner routine won't provide this anymore. I hadn't thought about that (didn't even realize my hair needed protein until recently). Other than that, I found it superior to surfactant based shampoos… dried out my hair less, and my scalp produces less oil. GL and curious to hear what you think if you try it.

Edit: to answer your other q's, how often is individual. Trial and error is the only way to know, and your hair's needs change over time. I didn't use other products, but that was before I knew any better. PTs would have helped. Some ppl need additional detangling/slip above what ACV can provide. Currently I use borax, then lemon juice (less oily than ACV for me), then conditioner (with some protein). If I have serious grease (like coconut oil) then I'll use a shampoo bar, but rarely.

Last edited by naturecat; 06-21-2014 at 08:58 PM.
Tonight I mixed it with my shampoo and washed normally. My hair loves protein, but I haven't done a PT in ages, but I do DT weekly. What do you mean it won't work for these? What happens?
~Belle Bohemienne

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Oh, I just meant it won't provide protein or DT effects by itself. Before the switch I used protein conditioners (without thinking about it, just noticed my hair liked it). When I switched to just BS/ACV I wasn't getting any protein for my hair anymore. If you don't do PT anymore and your hair needs it, it may be wise to use protein containing products in addition, whether from styling products or conditioner.
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You mentioned wanting to save $$, so since you haven't fully moved to no-poo, I suggest you dilute your shampoo.

Many years ago I read in a hair care book written by a famous stylist of the day that most shampoos were too concentrated (and most COs too) and they should be diluted, this would not only 1) reduce possible scalp irritation and hair damage, but would 2) help distribute it much better throughout the scalp and hair, and 3) save money because it's surprising how far a small glob diluted in 4-5 times as much water will go.

That was perfect to help my then about 10 y.o. daughter wash her hair, I'd noticed greasy spots in her head because she would put one big glob on top of her head and didn't distribute it well all over her hair, but once I showed her how to use diluted shampoo problem solved. I used one of those small plastic applicator bottles that come with many hair coloring products but you can get an applicator bottle at Sally's. This will also come in very handy for mixing the baking soda or ACV, because the ounces are marked on the outside you'll always know exactly how much water you're putting in your mix every time.
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Oh, I just meant it won't provide protein or DT effects by itself. Before the switch I used protein conditioners (without thinking about it, just noticed my hair liked it). When I switched to just BS/ACV I wasn't getting any protein for my hair anymore. If you don't do PT anymore and your hair needs it, it may be wise to use protein containing products in addition, whether from styling products or conditioner.
Originally Posted by naturecat
I realized that's what you meant after I posted! Lol! What products did you use that contained protein....just curious.
~Belle Bohemienne

"If you are depressed you are living in the past. If you are anxious you are living in the future. If you are at peace you are living in the present." -Lao Tzu
You mentioned wanting to save $$, so since you haven't fully moved to no-poo, I suggest you dilute your shampoo.

Many years ago I read in a hair care book written by a famous stylist of the day that most shampoos were too concentrated (and most COs too) and they should be diluted, this would not only 1) reduce possible scalp irritation and hair damage, but would 2) help distribute it much better throughout the scalp and hair, and 3) save money because it's surprising how far a small glob diluted in 4-5 times as much water will go.

That was perfect to help my then about 10 y.o. daughter wash her hair, I'd noticed greasy spots in her head because she would put one big glob on top of her head and didn't distribute it well all over her hair, but once I showed her how to use diluted shampoo problem solved. I used one of those small plastic applicator bottles that come with many hair coloring products but you can get an applicator bottle at Sally's. This will also come in very handy for mixing the baking soda or ACV, because the ounces are marked on the outside you'll always know exactly how much water you're putting in your mix every time.
Originally Posted by CGSince2002
I use all natural/CG products usually on my hair, but I still straighten sometimes and also use a hairspray to help with frizz, fly aways, and hold my curls and these products aren't CG, so I want to make sure that when I use them that they won't build up in my hair and I've read that baking soda takes care of that.

Also when I shampoo, I use a dine to nickel size amount, rub in my hands, and then apply to my scalp also while standing under the water. That may be too concentrated? I've never thought about that.
~Belle Bohemienne

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What does salt do for hair? Any one know? I've been seeing that on Pinterest too to get beach waves. I'm just wondering.
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It sort of tightens the curl but it's very drying... Epsom salt (or magnesium sulfate) has a similar effect and while it can be drying if abused it does contribute minerals that our hair likes so if properly used is more beneficial than table salt.
It sort of tightens the curl but it's very drying... Epsom salt (or magnesium sulfate) has a similar effect and while it can be drying if abused it does contribute minerals that our hair likes so if properly used is more beneficial than table salt.
Originally Posted by CGSince2002
Oh I see. It confused me because salt absorbs moisture, but you're suppose to dilute it with water. I have some Epsom salts that I may throw a little into my spray bottle!
~Belle Bohemienne

"If you are depressed you are living in the past. If you are anxious you are living in the future. If you are at peace you are living in the present." -Lao Tzu
I do ACV rinses every few weeks and I love them! They help remove buildup and make my hair feel soft and weightless as well as look shiny. Also, apparently ACV helps promote hair growth. I also occasionally use baking soda, and it makes my hair also feel soft and weightless, but not particularly shiny.
I would be careful using baking soda on the hair. I've heard that it can damage the hair in the long term. I've used ACV on my hair once and will never do it again. It made my hair hard/crunchy, gave it a red tint (which I didn't mind), and if I scrunched my hair, hair came out in my hand. Not cool. So if I need to clarify, I use a clarifying shampoo. Shampoo is gentler for my hair than ACV. I refuse to use baking soda on my hair because I know how harsh it can be. My grandfather brushed his teeth with baking soda and it kept his teeth white. He always looked like he had his teeth professionally whited but all he did was brush with baking soda. That's why I can't imagine using baking soda on my hair.
Oh, I just meant it won't provide protein or DT effects by itself. Before the switch I used protein conditioners (without thinking about it, just noticed my hair liked it). When I switched to just BS/ACV I wasn't getting any protein for my hair anymore. If you don't do PT anymore and your hair needs it, it may be wise to use protein containing products in addition, whether from styling products or conditioner.
Originally Posted by naturecat
I realized that's what you meant after I posted! Lol! What products did you use that contained protein....just curious.
Originally Posted by BelleBohemienne
Hm, I don't remember all of them, but currently here are some of the conditioners (some of which I used back then too) that contain protein: Mineral Fusion Volumizing Conditioner (protein is one of the top ingredients), John Masters, either citrus/neroli detangler or lavender and avocado intensive conditioner, and recently AO GPB. The JM are the most expensive, and Mineral is about 1/2 the price. CGsince2002's suggestion of diluting may help these last longer and thus lower price. Oh and also, I use gelatin as a gel (in addition to PTs) so I get protein every time I dry my hair. And one last thing if you're concerned about hairspray buildup… supposedly, sugar dissolved in boiling water makes a great hairspray that stays light on the hair. I've not tried it myself yet, but plan to soon.
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It sort of tightens the curl but it's very drying... Epsom salt (or magnesium sulfate) has a similar effect and while it can be drying if abused it does contribute minerals that our hair likes so if properly used is more beneficial than table salt.
Originally Posted by CGSince2002
Oh I see. It confused me because salt absorbs moisture, but you're suppose to dilute it with water. I have some Epsom salts that I may throw a little into my spray bottle!
Originally Posted by BelleBohemienne
Yes, that's why it dries the hair, it sucks it out of it.

I would be careful using baking soda on the hair. I've heard that it can damage the hair in the long term. I've used ACV on my hair once and will never do it again. It made my hair hard/crunchy, gave it a red tint (which I didn't mind), and if I scrunched my hair, hair came out in my hand. Not cool. So if I need to clarify, I use a clarifying shampoo. Shampoo is gentler for my hair than ACV. I refuse to use baking soda on my hair because I know how harsh it can be. My grandfather brushed his teeth with baking soda and it kept his teeth white. He always looked like he had his teeth professionally whited but all he did was brush with baking soda. That's why I can't imagine using baking soda on my hair.
Originally Posted by curlicious13
Perhaps I already addressed this in another thread, so forgive me for being repetitious.

I, of course, cannot know how much ACV you used to judge but I've seen people using too much and that's where the problems come in. I've rarely used more than 1 tsp. in 8 oz. of water when the hair's long and never, ever noticed any drying or other problem in my color-treated hair so I can't imagine that amount or even a little more hurting anybody's hair unless it was already damaged.

I can't understand why you'd be turned off about putting a little baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) on your hair just because your grandfather used it on his teeth. It has hundreds of uses, the most known is for baking all kinds of things people eat all the time. Traditionally it's also been used for heartburn, and more recently to help alkalize the body for better health, it's just a "multi-tasking" chemical. Our own bodies manufacture bicarbonates so it's not like it's a foreign substance. I definitely trust it much more than multiple unknown ingredients in a shampoo, just think, whoever uses it doesn't have to worry about an allergy or even irritation to the skin when used in the right dilution.
@CGsince2002 - i didnt know where to put this so you would see it, but I wanted to tell you that I really value you input on all postings that you comment on.
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@CGsince2002 - i didnt know where to put this so you would see it, but I wanted to tell you that I really value you input on all postings that you comment on.
Originally Posted by CurlyInParadise
Thank you CIP, I really appreciate your saying so.

Now, I need to clarify something about what I said regarding baking soda.

curlicious13
I agree that it can be very damaging in the long term. I guess because most people here only use it occasionally and there are SO many bloggers and posters using it for washing their hair followed by an ACV rinse I took for granted that it was ok, but I pride myself of not being close minded (or not too much, lol!) and I do listen to my intuition, so after I posted last night I felt I should do a search and I did find a blog where the writer said b.s. had damaged her hair after using it for 3 years. She explained how, no matter how much it is diluted in water, the pH remains about the same, and in view of that, which I humbly admit I didn't know, I think no one should use it for more than very occasional clarifying.

And when I say that, I have to say that because it left my hair very much like some harsh shampoos did, after using it the first time just out of curiosity I think I've only used it one more time all these past 12 years, and that was a few months ago. I don't even find ACV works as well for me as my prefered "Lemon Aid", so I've only used it on the rare occasion when I didn't have any lemon juice, but the truth is that I don't need to clarify much at all, probably because I color my hair and maybe when I run it through the length and rinse it out it takes "everything" with it.

So curlicious13 did have a good point there, not everyone has sturdy enough hair to put anything on it so it's better to err on the side of caution than to take unnecessary chances when there are other milder options available (including some shampoos!).
An ACV rinse is just OK for me once in a great while. Baking soda however was a complete disaster for me, even adding a little little bit to shampoo to clarify. Never again! Right after I did that, I used a rich conditioner which didn't seem to help all that much as my hair was SO SO dried-out from that one bit of baking soda. It took awhile for it to recover too. My skin also doesn't like baking soda either, yet all kinds of frugal simple living sites advocate this as a cheap scrub as well as washing one's hair with it. Again, for me, oh no.
ACV rinses are also okay for me, but the results aren't amazing. I've never tried baking soda because I was tipped off about the high pH before giving it a go. I'd rather not experiment with it since I have found a shampoo that isn't too harsh on my hair. It's just not worth it to me.
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I found that BS dried my hair out terribly the first time, with just a pinch, leaving it on for a few seconds. Later on, I needed more and for longer times to take the oils out of my hair (I had too much). So my hair did adjust. But altogether, over time, I got frizz, which I still have, but I think BS dried it out more. I agree that, like everything else, it's nice to alternate products. Your body gets tired of what it repeats.
Cool! This is what I needed to know. I haven't noticed any difference in my hair using the baking soda. I think I'll stick to my usual stuff. Thanks for everyone's input!
~Belle Bohemienne

"If you are depressed you are living in the past. If you are anxious you are living in the future. If you are at peace you are living in the present." -Lao Tzu

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