Help with Styler

Hi, I was a long term user of KMF Upper Management until the formula change and now have been using CJ Pattern Pusha. I like this gel but it flakes terribly no matter how much I use. I have course, high density, low porosity 3c/4a hair and I think I am doing very well without glycerine. KCCC makes my curls sort of defined but not very clumpy at all (less than usual) and my hair does not do very well with layers of products. I am currently using coconut oil as a prepoo and at night to moisturize but I can't find a gel that works without flaking. I would really love any recommendations. TIA!
Try LA looks wet looks gel. I love the stuff so much I stock pile it. If you're at Walmart and can't find it, I bought all the bottles. I get upset when I can't find it. If it were discontinued, I'd be up a creek with no paddles. Great hold and defined curls. I have 3c:4a hair too. The key to styling my hair is to NOT cover my wet hair. Otherwise, I will have an Afro puff in the morning. NOT cool.
I adore my Ouidad Climate Control gel! Seriously.
Allie

3A with some 3B thrown in. Medium porosity. High density. Low-medium thickness.


Pre-poo: Organic Virgin Coconut Oil
Low-poo: Shea Moisture Coconut & Hibiscus Curl & Shine
Conditioner: Faith in Nature or
Shea Moisture Raw Restorative
D/C: Giovanni 2chic Avocado & Olive Oil Ultra Moist Deep Moisture Mask

Leave-in: My DNA
Styler: Ouidad Climate Control Heat & Humidity or
Umberto Giannini Scrunching Jelly

UK curly. CG since October 2013.
Aiming for WL curls (eventually)
Your not alone when it comes to the CJ Pattern Pusha Gel flaking on you. I have seen a number of YT videos, where others complained of the same thing happening to them. However, there are others that use the gel and don't experience the flaking at all. All that I know is that any product that has xanthum gum in it, especially high on the list, does nothing but flake on me. Which is why, i try and avoid using products that have xanthum gum listed in them at all.

I have never experienced flaking with any of the Ecostyler gels that I have ever tried. Also, I have never experienced flaking with the L.A. Looks Wet Look Gel either, or even the original version of Uncle Funky's Daughter Curly Magic - which is now being sold under a new line called Hello Curly ( Curly Hair Products to style Kinky and Curly Hair | Hello Curly )

It is called Hello Curly Curl Stimulator. It comes in an 18 oz. bottle with a pump top, and it retails for $25. From the info that I found out via YT, and through an online blog, it was said that the female owner of Uncle Funky's Daughter launched this new line.

Hello Curly Curl Stimulator Ingredients:

Organic Aloe Vera Juice, Aqueous - Infused Extracts of Marshmallow, Chamomile, Nettle, Horsetail, Vitamin E, Agave Nectar Extract, Citric Acid, Potassium Sorbate and Natural Fragrance.
3B natural hair

Current Regimen: Daily Bunning

Products currently using:
Shea Moisture Curl & Shine Shampoo
Shea Moisture Jamaican Black Castor Oil Shampoo
Shea Moisture Curl & Shine Conditioner ( I do use it with steam)
Protein Conditioner- Tresemme Keratin Smooth Conditioner (I do use it with steam.)
Shea Moisture Transtioning Milk
Pre-Poo Treatment- I switch between Regular and Extra Dark JBCO ( The lines I use from are - Jamaican Mango & Lime, Tropic Isle Living, and Sunny Isle)

Last edited by Reservechic; 08-04-2014 at 10:56 AM.
i use cj pp all the time and never had flaking. what leave ins, other stylers might you be using with it?
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3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity
washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
styling: cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab, lalsg. cj aloe fix gel is my high dews/summer HG!!
sealants - spiral solutions emollience butter, jane carter nourish & shine
I am only using Pattern Pusha on conditioned hair - I don't use any leave ins because they tend to make my hair sticky and without definition no matter how little I use. I co-wash and then use a rinse out conditioner - giovanni generally or TresemmeNaturals. Results are generally good but I get a very fine white layer that flakes for days. What am I doing wrong?
i honestly don't know why it flakes, but i have heard this from others. i only use curl junkie conditioners, so maybe it's more compatible???

that's too bad as pattern pusha is a great gel, always consistent, no worries about dew points...... and works on either wet or dry hair. hmmm, have you tried scrunching it in when your hair is dry? in fact, i can even do it when my hair is about 75% dry, damp. for me, pp is a staple item. maybe try different conditioners to see if that helps.
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3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity
washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
styling: cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab, lalsg. cj aloe fix gel is my high dews/summer HG!!
sealants - spiral solutions emollience butter, jane carter nourish & shine

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