Poly quat ?

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Last edited by terric62; 08-15-2014 at 10:32 PM.
I actually learned that I was polyquat sensitive from Deva products. When I was finishing those bottles, I was cowashing x4 a week & using a sulfate-free clarifying shampoo weekly to remove the buildup.

Now that I avoid all polyquats I only clarify once a month.
Mod CG since '06, "full" CG since '13

2c/2b/3a/4? ---> wavy kinky hair
High density, very coarse, mostly low porosity with some normal porosity in the canopy

Clarifier - Moroccan oil clarifying shampoo
Cleanser/Cowash - Dermorganic shampoo / KMF everyday conditioner
RO & LI - CJ smoothing conditioner, JC deep conditioner, JC too Shea
Styler - Beautiful Curls defining gel, JC confidence coils
Curl enhancer - JC rockin ringlets, Josie Maran bohemian waves argan hair mist
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Last edited by terric62; 08-15-2014 at 10:32 PM.
Baking soda is arguably harsher than the average sulphate shampoo, unless you have an allergy or other skin condition that responds badly to sulphates it is unlikely to do any measurable harm to hair to use them occasionally.

Given many polyquats are cationic you may be best using an anionic shampoo to shift the residue.
Science-y Hair Blog: Polyquat or Not?
http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlre...and-polyquats/
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2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
If you're doing the CG method, a diluted sulfate-free clarifying shampoo is totally legit (so long as it is silicone-free.) The clarifier in my signature is sulfate-free, it is as effective (for me) as the Neutrogena anti-residue shampoo, I dilute them with the same water ratio, so even though it costs 4x as much, I only buy it once a year, & I find it to be way less stripping.
My scalp & hair might just be more sensitive than yours, because my hair is not baking soda & ACV user friendly.

As a rule for my hair, I always deep condition after cleansing too.

I use product every couple of days, so I finished my polyquat products faster by diluting them with water, or with another gel (when I wanted more hold).

I don't know what the deva discovery kit contains, but I'm pretty sure that their no poo, conditioner & gels all have polyquats in them, so if you do find your polyquat sensitive you might not want to use them all at the same time.
Mod CG since '06, "full" CG since '13

2c/2b/3a/4? ---> wavy kinky hair
High density, very coarse, mostly low porosity with some normal porosity in the canopy

Clarifier - Moroccan oil clarifying shampoo
Cleanser/Cowash - Dermorganic shampoo / KMF everyday conditioner
RO & LI - CJ smoothing conditioner, JC deep conditioner, JC too Shea
Styler - Beautiful Curls defining gel, JC confidence coils
Curl enhancer - JC rockin ringlets, Josie Maran bohemian waves argan hair mist
I'm another one to avoid polyquats, especially 4, 7 and 10. They seem to build up on me and cause frizz--even when wet. Don't know about 37.

For me, they are difficult to remove. Gentle surfactants don't seem to do it. I rarely use shampoo, but when I want to clarify I use a generic version of Nexxus Aloe Rid. My hair hates baking soda. Makes it feel and look terrible, even in small amounts.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

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Last edited by terric62; 08-15-2014 at 10:33 PM.

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