RANT - about Sally Beauty

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I am so mad at Sally Beauty. I think they have become anti-CG or something!

For my budget, CurlMart products are, for the most part, luxuries. I can't afford $20.00 bottles of 8 oz products for my daughter and I to use up in a week. I've always counted on Sally Beauty for (literally) gallons of product that serves as "everyday" staples. I have a husband and two curly haired sons as well, so I try to get the most for my money. Even if I didn't buy the gallon bottles, Sally's had some products that were really great, and they were priced fairly.

I need to restock my staples, and I like to keep them as CG-friendly as possible, so recently I've shopped for:

Queen Helene Mint Julep sulfate-free shampoo (discontinued)
GVP Conditioning Balm (discontinued)
gallon bottles of Salon Care conditioner (not on web-site anymore, haven't looked in store). The shampoos are available but not CG.
Cure Care Conditioner (discontinued??)
4Naturals hair custard (discontinued??)
Eco Curling Cocktail (not in any of my local Sally's)
Coloresse (the Pureology knockoffs) - discontinued

Apparently they are discontinuing the CURLS line, as well, but I know that's now available at Target.

I am especially sad about the CURE CARE. It's fragrance-free so much son could use it, plus it was my favorite product for "cheap" co-washing.

I have no idea what I'm going to replace these products with.

Thank you for letting me complain.
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ORS Curls Unleased Second ChanceRefresher/
It's a 10 Leave-in/BRHG/
Jane Carter Nourish & Shine butter/
Ouidad Double-Detangler Comb
You're welcome.

I don't shop there anymore. They seem to be focusing more on nail and hair coloring products than anything else.

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have you tried looking in beauty supply stores?
and aveyou.com? (they always have discount codes and flat rate shipping, $5 for under $50, $1 for above. plus the discounts.)
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styling: cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab, lalsg. cj aloe fix gel is my high dews/summer HG!!
sealants - spiral solutions emollience butter, jane carter nourish & shine
Yikes! GVP conditioning balm is being discontinued!!

This makes me sad.
You're welcome.

I don't shop there anymore. They seem to be focusing more on nail and hair coloring products than anything else.
Originally Posted by claudine191
Ha! this is so true! smh
Cure Care going away makes me mega sad. It doesn't come up when you search their site or anything. Might need to go buy whatever gallons are left in my local store. >.> They shouldn't be taking options away from us allergy-prone weirdos!

The GVP CB is still coming up in search and says it's in stores and available for online orders, though. Maybe it just wasn't selling well in your area? You would not be the only person to freak out on account of *that* getting discontinued, trust me. ;p
2c/3a color&heat damaged, fine, low-density, high porosity, <3s protein. re-CG as of 5/2014. Wash:V05 KLS, RO: GVP CB / AIA, LI: Cure Care, DT: SM Smooth & Repair Hair Masque, Style: Ecostyler Olive Oil / La Bella Lots of Curls gel
Oh that's not good to hear at all. I literally just started co-washing with Cure Care and it's the only cowash I can reliably use. I know they recently discontinued the small bottles of Cure Care but I was under the impression they still had the gallon bottles.... but now you're saying they discontinued those too???
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*Used to be low-porosity, but I lightened my hair 1-2 shades, so I may be normal-porosity now.

New climate! Current favorites:
Low-poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo, Giovanni SaS
RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF
PT: CJ Repair Me, IAgirl's gelatine

Experimenting with: JC Confident Coils, JC Rockin Ringlets, CJ CIAB, gelatin gel

iherb discount code: CFN646
I don't think I ever saw the gallons available online, now that I'm thinking about it... possibly due to the shipping weight and chance of leaking? I could be wrong... but I am grasping at straws here. Replacing it is going to suck.
2c/3a color&heat damaged, fine, low-density, high porosity, <3s protein. re-CG as of 5/2014. Wash:V05 KLS, RO: GVP CB / AIA, LI: Cure Care, DT: SM Smooth & Repair Hair Masque, Style: Ecostyler Olive Oil / La Bella Lots of Curls gel
I can't believe they'd discontinue gvpcb!!! I just bought. A gallon of Cure care recently. Did thrusters you these were discontinued?
Cure Care discontinued? *le sigh* As much as I like it on my hair, it's the only product that kept my dog's skin calm and happy. I'll have to check the local store for any remaining and stock up.

ETA: After writing this on the fly, I remembered Cure Care is a knockoff of Unicure conditioner, which is still available. It has 2 formulas, but the retail one is closest to Cure Care, with the exception of the protein ingredient. Instead of Hydrolyzed Keratin, it contains "Silk Amino Protein". Either formula is available in 12oz or gallon sizes, or in either size by the case on the website. Depending on location, it may be available on the ground as well.

Ingredients for all 3...

Unicure Classic Formula Ingredients: Water, Cetyl Alcohol, Cetyl Pyridinium Chloride, Hydrolyzed Egg White Protein, Methylparaben, PropylParaben

Unicure Retail Formula Ingredients: Water, Cetyl Alcohol, Cetrimonium Bromide, Silk Amino Protein, Methylparaben, Propylparaben

Cure Care Ingredients: Water, Cetyl Alcohol, Cetrimonium Bromide, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Polymethoxy Bicyclic Oxazolidine, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Citric Acid
CG since 11/2011
2c /3a F /Mii, low porosity

Summer Products /Routine:
Clarifying: ACV rinses, Suave Professional Men Deep Clean Peppermint
Low Poo: Renpure Luxurious Argan Oil
Co-washes: VO5 Kiwi Lime Squeeze or Strawberries & Cream
RO: VO5 KLS or S&C, Cure Care
LI (if needed): VO5 S&C, VO5 SC, Cure Care
Stylers: FSG, AIF,
Tresemme Flawless Curls Bouncy Curls gel
PT: IAGirl's (link) as needed

Last edited by Geek_Chic; 08-11-2014 at 08:28 PM. Reason: Adding additional Info.
Maybe it's just the two nearest Sally's that aren't going to stock Cure Care anymore...it's not showing on their website though...

I have about 1/2 gallon left, and I hoping it's out because it's being repackaged or something.

When I asked about GVP conditioning balm recently the SA looked at me like I had a 3rd eye growing out of my skull. It seems this must have been discontined a while ago...but I had stocked up so I just ran out! I guess Biolage discontinued the $$ as well.

I can't find Cure Care for sale anywhere after searching for it!
My gallon of Cure Care says it was manufactured by Essential Products, Omaha, but I couldn't find a working website.

Unicure (the 'inspiration" for Cure Care)apparently is still around. Hair Conditioner
but no Cure Care! I don't know if I'd trust ordering from that Unicure website...it's rather odd. There's a list of retailers Unicure Hair and Skin Conditioner but there's nothing anywhere near me. They do private label packaging so I'm going to try to see if I can find some branded products with this formula.

geekrockgirl85 - THANK YOU for letting me know the GVP Balm is available on Sally's website!!!! Hopefully my Sally's were just out of stock or something. Sorry if I caused undue panic. When I lived in California, Sally's always had huge stocks of GVP products, but here in AZ the big sellers seem to be Mystic Divine, TIGI, Biotera, and Ion. Mystic Divine stuff is nice, but it's not CG friendly...
3b/c, Coarse, Low Porosity, Desert Climate
CG since August 2011/Occasionally Modified since 2013
Favorites:KCKT/KCCC/CHS Curl Keeper/Camille Rose Curl Maker/
ORS Curls Unleased Second ChanceRefresher/
It's a 10 Leave-in/BRHG/
Jane Carter Nourish & Shine butter/
Ouidad Double-Detangler Comb

Last edited by gardencurls; 08-11-2014 at 08:27 PM.
Maybe it's just the two nearest Sally's that aren't going to stock Cure Care anymore...it's not showing on their website though...

I have about 1/2 gallon left, and I hoping it's out because it's being repackaged or something.

When I asked about GVP conditioning balm recently the SA looked at me like I had a 3rd eye growing out of my skull. It seems this must have been discontined a while ago...but I had stocked up so I just ran out! I guess Biolage discontinued the $$ as well.

I can't find Cure Care for sale anywhere after searching for it!
My gallon of Cure Care says it was manufactured by Essential Products, Omaha, but I couldn't find a working website.

Unicure (the 'inspiration" for Cure Care)apparently is still around. Hair Conditioner
but no Cure Care! I don't know if I'd trust ordering from that Unicure website...it's rather odd. There's a list of retailers Unicure Hair and Skin Conditioner but there's nothing anywhere near me. They do private label packaging so I'm going to try to see if I can find some branded products with this formula.

geekrockgirl85 - THANK YOU for letting me know the GVP Balm is available on Sally's website!!!! Hopefully my Sally's were just out of stock or something. Sorry if I caused undue panic. When I lived in California, Sally's always had huge stocks of GVP products, but here in AZ the big sellers seem to be Mystic Divine, TIGI, Biotera, and Ion. Mystic Divine stuff is nice, but it's not CG friendly...
Originally Posted by gardencurls
The Unicure Retail Formula conditioner is an extremely close match to Cure Care, aside from the protein. Cure Care has Hydrolyzed Keratin, where Unicure Retail Formula has Silk Amino Protein. I agree, the Unicure website is sort of hokey. Not sure who picked their color scheme and text formatting, but it needs a rethink. No stores in my state carry it, but a friend of mine lives in a city with an on the ground retailer. I may see if she can pick up a bottle for me to try, and if it works out well, consider perhaps ordering from the website.
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2c /3a F /Mii, low porosity

Summer Products /Routine:
Clarifying: ACV rinses, Suave Professional Men Deep Clean Peppermint
Low Poo: Renpure Luxurious Argan Oil
Co-washes: VO5 Kiwi Lime Squeeze or Strawberries & Cream
RO: VO5 KLS or S&C, Cure Care
LI (if needed): VO5 S&C, VO5 SC, Cure Care
Stylers: FSG, AIF,
Tresemme Flawless Curls Bouncy Curls gel
PT: IAGirl's (link) as needed
I can't believe they'd discontinue gvpcb!!! I just bought. A gallon of Cure care recently. Did thrusters you these were discontinued?
Originally Posted by chupie
Uh, Chupie? Um, what?

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Just spoke with my local Sally's store about Cure Care and mentioned it's no longer available on the website. The representative I spoke to hadn't heard anything about it being discontinued. She said normally the price will be reduced on items they're discontinuing, and that hasn't happened with Cure Care. May not mean anything in the grand scheme of things, as employees on the bottom of the food chain are often the last to hear about changes, but I thought I'd mention it.
CG since 11/2011
2c /3a F /Mii, low porosity

Summer Products /Routine:
Clarifying: ACV rinses, Suave Professional Men Deep Clean Peppermint
Low Poo: Renpure Luxurious Argan Oil
Co-washes: VO5 Kiwi Lime Squeeze or Strawberries & Cream
RO: VO5 KLS or S&C, Cure Care
LI (if needed): VO5 S&C, VO5 SC, Cure Care
Stylers: FSG, AIF,
Tresemme Flawless Curls Bouncy Curls gel
PT: IAGirl's (link) as needed
I can't believe they'd discontinue gvpcb!!! I just bought. A gallon of Cure care recently. Did thrusters you these were discontinued?
Originally Posted by chupie
Uh, Chupie? Um, what?
Originally Posted by claudine191
Dumb autocorrect. She they tell you this stuff was discontinued?
I am so mad at Sally Beauty. I think they have become anti-CG or something!

For my budget, CurlMart products are, for the most part, luxuries. I can't afford $20.00 bottles of 8 oz products for my daughter and I to use up in a week. I've always counted on Sally Beauty for (literally) gallons of product that serves as "everyday" staples. I have a husband and two curly haired sons as well, so I try to get the most for my money. Even if I didn't buy the gallon bottles, Sally's had some products that were really great, and they were priced fairly.

I need to restock my staples, and I like to keep them as CG-friendly as possible, so recently I've shopped for:

Queen Helene Mint Julep sulfate-free shampoo (discontinued)
GVP Conditioning Balm (discontinued)
gallon bottles of Salon Care conditioner (not on web-site anymore, haven't looked in store). The shampoos are available but not CG.
Cure Care Conditioner (discontinued??)
4Naturals hair custard (discontinued??)
Eco Curling Cocktail (not in any of my local Sally's)
Coloresse (the Pureology knockoffs) - discontinued

Apparently they are discontinuing the CURLS line, as well, but I know that's now available at Target.

I am especially sad about the CURE CARE. It's fragrance-free so much son could use it, plus it was my favorite product for "cheap" co-washing.

I have no idea what I'm going to replace these products with.

Thank you for letting me complain.
Originally Posted by gardencurls
My local Sally's has discontinued selling quite a lot of stuff recently. Also, they have put quite a bunch of stuff on clearance as well. So, you are definitely not alone in your rant against Sally's. It appears to me like they are trying to get more sales geared towards certain lines that I guess corporate wants them too. The only products that I mostly buy for my hair from Sally's are from Shea Moisture, Eden's Body Works, the As I Am Coconut Cowash, the Creme of Nature w/Argan Oil Sulfate free Shampoo, African Pride's Miracle Growth Oil, and Aphogee's 2-Minute Reconstructor (when they are being offered on sale of course). I have stopped buying the makeup that they sell as well as their products for nails as well. And, the only skincare product that I buy from them is their Beyond Belief Vita C+ Eye Cream (the only eye cream i have ever tried that doesn't cause my eyes to weep, plus it works very well at moisturizing and softening up the skin around my eyes, as well as lightening up shadowing- dark circles around my eyes).

I too wonder what they are going to replace all these discontinued items with as well. Well, only time will tell..........
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It's A 10
Cantu
Suave
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Creme of Nature
Elasta Q
African Pride
Eden Body Works
Aussie
Bobeam
Herbal Essence
Hoping the GVP Conditioning Balm isn't being discontinued in the San Francisco Sally Beauty Supply stores! I'd better get on over there and get a couple of bottles if that's the case, to stock up a bit. I still have half a bottle. Either that or I'll just have to order it...
Cure Care discontinued? *le sigh* As much as I like it on my hair, it's the only product that kept my dog's skin calm and happy. I'll have to check the local store for any remaining and stock up.

ETA: After writing this on the fly, I remembered Cure Care is a knockoff of Unicure conditioner, which is still available. It has 2 formulas, but the retail one is closest to Cure Care, with the exception of the protein ingredient. Instead of Hydrolyzed Keratin, it contains "Silk Amino Protein". Either formula is available in 12oz or gallon sizes, or in either size by the case on the website. Depending on location, it may be available on the ground as well.

Ingredients for all 3...

Unicure Classic Formula Ingredients: Water, Cetyl Alcohol, Cetyl Pyridinium Chloride, Hydrolyzed Egg White Protein, Methylparaben, PropylParaben

Unicure Retail Formula Ingredients: Water, Cetyl Alcohol, Cetrimonium Bromide, Silk Amino Protein, Methylparaben, Propylparaben

Cure Care Ingredients: Water, Cetyl Alcohol, Cetrimonium Bromide, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Polymethoxy Bicyclic Oxazolidine, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Citric Acid
Originally Posted by Geek_Chic

Hi I just wanted to comment that a good skin wash for dogs is using Borax powder dissolved in water as a bathing substance. I've read in various places on the internet that its great for mange and mites and other skin problems.


I recently had a skin and hair yeast overgrowth issue and I washed my hair with a borax solution I made at home and after two washes, the scalp issues have completely resolved. My next step is to make up a solution for in the shower and I will be using it instead of shower gel for a while until the skin rash clears. BTW, my scalp never felt so clean as after using the borax(yes, the laundry stuff) as a scalp wash. It felt like my head could breathe and I had no itchies and no flakiness or scalp gunk. I went 5 days in between washes just to see how long I could go....my scalp was clean as a whistle all five days but my hair go oily...so I had to wash again.
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And, the only skincare product that I buy from them is their Beyond Belief Vita C+ Eye Cream (the only eye cream i have ever tried that doesn't cause my eyes to weep, plus it works very well at moisturizing and softening up the skin around my eyes, as well as lightening up shadowing- dark circles around my eyes).

I too wonder what they are going to replace all these discontinued items with as well. Well, only time will tell..........
Same here! That's the only eyes cream that doesn't give me milia. I love that stuff. I think maybe Sally's has gotten too big to care about what customers want. They figure they have the market cornered so they can scimp anywhere they want.
3b/c, Coarse, Low Porosity, Desert Climate
CG since August 2011/Occasionally Modified since 2013
Favorites:KCKT/KCCC/CHS Curl Keeper/Camille Rose Curl Maker/
ORS Curls Unleased Second ChanceRefresher/
It's a 10 Leave-in/BRHG/
Jane Carter Nourish & Shine butter/
Ouidad Double-Detangler Comb
the sally's generic balm is still being sold at my store. thats my holy grail leave in so they better not get rid of it. I even asked if they were ever gonna stop carrying it and she said no because its high demand. Its so high demand in my town they are always almost down one bottle.

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