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I heard you can tell the difference between a real curl and a fake one because real curls are rounded and fake ones lay flat, is this true? Is there a way to tell the difference between natural curls and wand curls?
I heard you can tell the difference between a real curl and a fake one because real curls are rounded and fake ones lay flat, is this true? Is there a way to tell the difference between natural curls and wand curls?
Originally Posted by superzero
My mom's hairdresser (a man, who had been doing that work for a couple of decades) could always instantly tell if a person's curl was natural or was a perm. You may want to ask a long-term hairdresser this question as they will likely know the answer to that.


I'm definitely a "curly" 2c. Sometimes curly and sometimes just wavy upper layer with a ringlety under layer. My hair has been thick and coarse since birth. Strawberry blonde in color that can and does change depending on the type and amount of light.


All in all, I'm happy with my hair type but almost for sure think yours is prettier.
Rounded? What do you mean? And you can tell by the shine and perfection. If it looks perfect it's fake. Period. And permed hair is easy to detect if the hairdresser sucks. You're not supposed to see if its a perm. Curled hair is easy to see, I already explained above and in previous thread.

Otherwise I can just guess. Just like when someone tans. It's not orange, it's a real nice bronze color BUT there's still something odd. It just doesnt "match" you.

Good thing is that you cant perm your hair(it will get damaged as shii!) always sooooooo when someone suddenly has damaged straight hair you know why.
My question to you however is: why do you want to know this? :P
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Deliberately curled hair may be a lot more uniform, no curls out of place, each one has the same diameter, the same amount of hair in each clump, the same curl pattern etc. I don't think naturally curly hair is so neat, i always have some pieces of hair that are a bit straighter or curlier than others, sometimes my hair curls back on itself and makes weird loops. It just looks not as perfect, I guess.
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Rounded? What do you mean? And you can tell by the shine and perfection. If it looks perfect it's fake. Period. And permed hair is easy to detect if the hairdresser sucks. You're not supposed to see if its a perm. Curled hair is easy to see, I already explained above and in previous thread.

Otherwise I can just guess. Just like when someone tans. It's not orange, it's a real nice bronze color BUT there's still something odd. It just doesnt "match" you.

Good thing is that you cant perm your hair(it will get damaged as shii!) always sooooooo when someone suddenly has damaged straight hair you know why.
My question to you however is: why do you want to know this? :P
Originally Posted by noodly
I want to know because I have a co worker who always had straight hair then about a week ago she showed up with curly hair, got a load of compliments, now she wears her hair curly everyday and says it's her honest to god natural hair but im skeptical, it looks really really good for someone who's been straightening for years
Not everyone who straightened her hair will have damaged hair so it's perfectly realistic that her hair may naturally be as curly as it is now. Generally most wavies and curlies tend to have a little frizz on their canopy or down/baby hair at the temples and nape of the neck.

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Yeah, I have a friend who used to straighten her hair a lot but naturally it is super curly and she wears it natural now because who has time in university :P It is super gorgeous and she doesn't even need to use styling products when it's curly
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This girl I know, she naturally has straightish hair and braids her hair every freaking night in order to make it look wavy or curly whatever she wants to call it. I was sleeping over and I asked if the braids are what makes her hair so curly and she replied : no i naturally have curls. Next day she took a shower and airdried it, was just straightish lol. I shaded her and she just chuckled.

Maybe you should get to know her better, that's the only way to find out. I have to say I prefer the straight hair on her.
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If I shower and air dry without product or squeezing water out, my hair dries with very little wave due to water weight. So it can be impossible to tell in a sense if you have texture, too many variables. There are curlies with picture perfect hair and seemingly no frizz. Products can accomplish magic too.
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My husband & his mom were debating on if a woman in a car driving next to us was wearing a wig or had natural curls. We couldn't really tell but it was frizzy like real hair but something about it looked synthetic. Real hair just has a different "look" that's hard to explain.

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She squeezed the water out. She just doesnt have curly hair. She herself eventually admitted that. And her "curls" look like those curls who would curl even if you dont squeeze the water out. They were pretty defined. She scrunches in a curlcream(dont ask me why) before she braids her hair so yeah...I just wonder if she doesnt get sick from her lies...she is known as that girl with the curls now.
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Last edited by noodly; 12-31-2014 at 11:57 PM.
Deliberately curled hair may be a lot more uniform, no curls out of place, each one has the same diameter, the same amount of hair in each clump, the same curl pattern etc. I don't think naturally curly hair is so neat, i always have some pieces of hair that are a bit straighter or curlier than others, sometimes my hair curls back on itself and makes weird loops. It just looks not as perfect, I guess.
Originally Posted by eveum
This is true! Being a bit OCD about my hair… it drives me crazy that it's so inconsistent. There are 3B sections at the nape of my neck yet there are parts of my canopy that just wave and don't actually make a ringlet. I have solved this problem by finger coiling and clipping my hair when wet to force it into uniform ringlets. It takes a bit longer but I can wear it longer between washes. I get asked ALL THE TIME if my hair is really naturally curly or if I've used a styling wand to create such "perfect" curls. I don't even own a "styling wand" and I try to use a minimal amount of heat to prevent damage. One thing that is definitely different when I style this way is the fact that I end up with spiral ringlets and instead of a mix of spirals and S curls. I think that's what makes it look less "natural." Like eveum said… it looks too "perfect."

I want to know because I have a co worker who always had straight hair then about a week ago she showed up with curly hair, got a load of compliments, now she wears her hair curly everyday and says it's her honest to god natural hair but im skeptical, it looks really really good for someone who's been straightening for years
Originally Posted by superzero
Instead of getting upset with her just get to know her better.

Some of the people I know who have straightened their hair over the years haven't always damaged their hair when they have worn it curly. They have tended to use hair dryers to straighten their hair rather than other appliances.
I've been unknowingly stretching my hair my entire life, or possibly after puberty or after 25, I don't know exactly when my hair decided to be more curly. I always thought I was a fluffy, frizzy, bushy 2a, with an occasional more curly day when I went to the beach. When I started following the CG method, I realized I had actual curl, like actual spirals!

My hair is fine, so product and method especially can pull out or encourage curl greatly. If I plop and do the Smasters method, people have described my hair as 2c/3a. If I apply product using the prayer method and air dry without plopping, the root curl gets pulled out, and it looks more 2b.

People were really confused when I started the CG method asking if I curled my hair. I think they might still be confused because my pattern can change a lot depending on what I do to it. Because someone suddenly showed up with curly hair doesn't mean their hair wasn't naturally curly all along. Natural curly hair looks more uneven. But really, who cares if someone else's curl is natural or not? Ask or or don't ask and let them do whatever.
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A year and a half later, people STILL ask me if my hair is real or a perm. To be honest, does it really matter? No sense in judging someone with straight hair thinking they might be lying about their curly hair. Curling hair is a lot of work, and if it's a lie it's a very time consuming one to keep up!

I have a fried who is a 3b and straightens off and on. Her curls are perfectly 3b and absolutely gorgeous!

Maybe a bit of jealousy that you aren't *the* curly girl? I've noticed people going curly after seeing mine. Take it as a compliment and move on.
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She squeezed the water out. She just doesnt have curly hair. She herself eventually admitted that. And her "curls" look like those curls who would curl even if you dont squeeze the water out. They were pretty defined. She scrunches in a curlcream(dont ask me why) before she braids her hair so yeah...I just wonder if she doesnt get sick from her lies...she is known as that girl with the curls now.
Originally Posted by noodly
That's pretty funny. I know straight haired girls always want curls but if *I* had straight hair, I'd have it blunt cut an inch or two below my shoulders and wash it and let it air dry each day. Clean, air dried straight hair has that "puff" without being frizzy that makes hair look so clean and nice. But I don't have straight hair; I do love my curls.


I'm definitely a "curly" 2c. Sometimes curly and sometimes just wavy upper layer with a ringlety under layer. My hair has been thick and coarse since birth. Strawberry blonde in color that can and does change depending on the type and amount of light.


All in all, I'm happy with my hair type but almost for sure think yours is prettier.
I think it's silly that people feel the need to lie about things regarding to their appearance (hair color, relaxer, perm vs. natural curl, dieting, plastic surgery etc.) as it is to "out" someone for lying about what they've done to their body.

It's their body, they can curl or not curl, they can lose or gain weight, they can color, get work done, whatever, and they don't need to explain themselves to anyone else either. Whether it is for personal taste and preference or because indeed they feel societal pressure, it is their choice at the end of the day and there is no need to punish them for the choices they make regarding their bodies. What does it matter to anyone but themselves? I think it's sad that people, women in particular, are put under great pressure to look a certain way, and when they take steps to do so (because of the pressure or for themselves or both), they must furthermore cover it up in order to not appear vain.

It's like when Renee Zellweger came out recently and it looks like she might have had an eye lift. She denied it and I found it sad, as I found all of the speculation about her having had any work done sad and vulture-like. Hollywood likes fresh-faced young women. Older women get less and less work and brilliant actresses get less and less jobs as they age when ironically they actually become better actresses (life experience makes you a better actor and more authentic actor, I see this over and over). She had an eye lift. Maybe it's for personal reasons, maybe it's to stay competitive in her image-obsessed field. Maybe her agent mentioned it to her and she listened. Maybe it was a smart career move. Maybe it was a personal move. Maybe she was insecure, and now maybe she feels better about herself, or maybe she feels the same. Either way, what does it matter? Is there no space that we can allow her to be in having done what she did? I don't respect her any less. I don't see her as any less good of an actor because she had a procedure done. It's her choice.

But it's sad the she feels the need to lie about it. We want our women young beautiful and fresh faced, we as consumers can be vain as hell about what we demand of women, but oh... how dare they be so vain as to actually do something to their bodies? Ridiculous. Like all this wizardry that we do to ourselves has to be kept such a secret because while we're constantly told that we need to be vain and care about our looks, we can't appear to be vain and care about our looks at the same time. Like oh look at me I just came out of the womb and my legs are shaved and armits are waxed and my hair is gelled and my hands manicured and I have eyeliner and lip gloss too, all from the womb. What a bunch of baloney.
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Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF, DE Shine & Refine, AB Strong Hold gel, SM C&S milk
PT: IAgirl's gelatine, CJ Repair Me

hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
Neutral on cones.

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IMO faux curls tend to be more curly toward the bottom/middle at more straight toward the top of the hair. Also, the curls are much chunkier and normally uniform ringlets. You won't find a variety of different curl shapes and sizes, as you'd tend to with natural hair. I also find the ends of faux curls look a little . . . odd. IDK how to explain it lol, they just do. There's also hardly any frizz with faux curls.
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You could always drag her out in the rain and see if her hair flops. My friend has straight hair but uses a thin curling iron to curl her hair when she goes out. We got caught in the rain, my curls tightened up and hers fell out. lol
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