Pantothenic acid / Panthenol?

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  • 1 Post By sixelamy
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I've been reading a little that suggests panthenol can be the cause of poor curls. I'm seeing some conditioners that list pantothenic acid (in the form of vitamin B5) rather than pantenol in the ingredients. A google search says "pantothenic acid can be found in three forms:
Calcium pantothenate
Panthenol
Vitamin B5"

My question is this: Does the form make a difference or is the action going to be the same no matter which form the pantothenic acid is from?

Gah, I hope that makes sense!

Thanks in advance, wise curlies, for your thoughts

3A Curls
Heh, it's funny, I'm most familiar with these as supplements (pantothenic acid and the like). I do use panthenol sometimes in homemade formulas and products. What I've both read and experienced is that too much can weigh your hair down (which in my case means it will pull out the curl). On the other hand using a little panthenol boosts my volume and gives impression of more curl. Unfortunately I can't tell you much about the other forms in hair products, as I don't have experience.

2B/2C/f/i
Baby fine brown hair, fluctuating porosity (currently low)
No poo: AVG mixed with glycerin
Stylers: SS CEJ, SS protein spray, homemade gelatin hair gel Andalou Naturals styling gel, customized SCE crazy curly FSG (sans PVP), MGA sculpting gel
Treatments: amla, fenugreek, irish moss, aloe vera powder, rosemary and chamomile tea rinse (with marshmallow root and irish moss water), henna, hydrogen peroxide
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Heh, it's funny, I'm most familiar with these as supplements (pantothenic acid and the like). I do use panthenol sometimes in homemade formulas and products. What I've both read and experienced is that too much can weigh your hair down (which in my case means it will pull out the curl). On the other hand using a little panthenol boosts my volume and gives impression of more curl. Unfortunately I can't tell you much about the other forms in hair products, as I don't have experience.
Originally Posted by naturecat
Hmmm... If I'm not able to find a natural conditioner that doesn't have panthenol, it sounds like I need to pay attention to where the pantenol is in the list of ingredients.

3A curls
I believe panthenol is a humectant, which may have a negative effect on curls in low or high dew points. It is a very beneficial ingredient to use on hair. To be honest, I've never seen it used in high amounts with any of the products I have bought to where it would become an issue. Like with all things, don't avoid something just because you read it somewhere. Go by your experience.
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2c-3a - med-coarse - normal-high porosity - high density

NP/LP: CJ Daily Fix, KMF Whenever Conditioner/ Giovanni TTTT
RO/LI: Sevi Pumpkin Seed, CJ Argan & Olive Oil, JC Too Shea, Aussie Moist
DT: Coconut Oil + scalp massage
STYLER: Ouidad Climate Control, KCCC, SS Curl Enhancing Jelly, JC Rockin' Ringlets
COLOR: henna, amla & indigo
: glycerin in high/low dews, polyquats, parabens
I believe panthenol is a humectant, which may have a negative effect on curls in low or high dew points. It is a very beneficial ingredient to use on hair. To be honest, I've never seen it used in high amounts with any of the products I have bought to where it would become an issue. Like with all things, don't avoid something just because you read it somewhere. Go by your experience.
Originally Posted by sixelamy
Agree Sixelamy, but currently my curls are droopy and blah. Most likely because I've let it get quite long, but I read about pantenol and wondered if maybe my daily leave in was part of the problem.

3A Curls
In my case the panthenol was too much because it was homemade and I used way too mugh. In commercial products the amount used is most definitely smaller. It can be tricky to isolate variables, as products have so many ingredients. There are plenty of products that weigh my hair down, but don't have panthenol in them. So the only way to tell would probably be trial and error with each product.

2B/2C/f/i
Baby fine brown hair, fluctuating porosity (currently low)
No poo: AVG mixed with glycerin
Stylers: SS CEJ, SS protein spray, homemade gelatin hair gel Andalou Naturals styling gel, customized SCE crazy curly FSG (sans PVP), MGA sculpting gel
Treatments: amla, fenugreek, irish moss, aloe vera powder, rosemary and chamomile tea rinse (with marshmallow root and irish moss water), henna, hydrogen peroxide
IA Girl's PT, SS PT
In my case the panthenol was too much because it was homemade and I used way too mugh. In commercial products the amount used is most definitely smaller. It can be tricky to isolate variables, as products have so many ingredients. There are plenty of products that weigh my hair down, but don't have panthenol in them. So the only way to tell would probably be trial and error with each product.
Originally Posted by naturecat
It can indeed be tricky to isolate variables, there are always sooo many possibilities!

3A Curls
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