Please offer advice...hair pics inside

First off, what kind of curls do I have? I need advice on how to get more volume at the top. Should I have my girl do shorter layers right on top? She suggested we not go with extreme layers (not sure layers would be the correct term) because she wanted to make sure I was happy with it. It had been over a year since my last CG haircut and we basically had to start all over. I wanted to keep my length. These pictures are this morning, almost dry. I just used CJ Daily Fix and a tiny amount of leave in by Darcy's Botanicals. I used CJ CIAB and then diffused. Yesterday I used CK and got very similar results. It curls really well in the am but the curl kind of falls as the day wears on. Still curly throughout. It just more flat on top. What do you suggest for stronger hold for my curls and more volume. I have VERY fine hair but a lot of it. I'd say normal porosity.

Thanks so much!!
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And one more thing....I've been washing my hair using curly girl products for a long time but not taking any time with it. I wash, pull straight back in a high bun and go. Could it maybe take some time for those curls to spring back to life after all of this pulling straight back for so long?? My hairdresser says no.
Probably not.

You have pretty long hair, it's going to pull the curls at the top. Shorter layers would definitely help.
2c-3a - med-coarse - normal-high porosity - high density

NP/LP: CJ Daily Fix, KMF Whenever / Giovanni TTTT
RO/LI: Sevi Pumpkin Seed, CJ Argan & Olive Oil, YTBbs
DC/PROTEIN: KC Stellar Strands / CNPF
STYLER: Ouidad Climate Control, SS Firm Hold Gel
COLOR: henna, amla & indigo
: glycerin in high/low dews, polyquats, parabens
First off, what kind of curls do I have? I need advice on how to get more volume at the top. Should I have my girl do shorter layers right on top? She suggested we not go with extreme layers (not sure layers would be the correct term) because she wanted to make sure I was happy with it. It had been over a year since my last CG haircut and we basically had to start all over. I wanted to keep my length. These pictures are this morning, almost dry. I just used CJ Daily Fix and a tiny amount of leave in by Darcy's Botanicals. I used CJ CIAB and then diffused. Yesterday I used CK and got very similar results. It curls really well in the am but the curl kind of falls as the day wears on. Still curly throughout. It just more flat on top. What do you suggest for stronger hold for my curls and more volume. I have VERY fine hair but a lot of it. I'd say normal porosity.

Thanks so much!!
Originally Posted by thundersweet
It appears that you have a good range of 2B/2C/3A (it appears that you have a curlier underlayer). Some common methods a lot of wavies/curlies do for volume: apply their styling products upside down and putting double pronged clips at the roots, some also "pixie diffuse" (vids on how to do this on YouTube) upside down... I haven't tried clipping but I'm planning to in the near future! I would suggest a gel for hold, I usually apply mine last after my leave in and other stylers. I use this cheap but awesome LA Looks Mega Mega Gel, good hold but not too crunchy on my hair, LA Looks has more gels with stronger/weaker holds, depending on what you like. (If you don't like it then it isn't such a big deal since it's very cheap and most stores offer return.) If you ever get crunch, twist the crunchy strands back and forth with your fingers till the gel cast breaks up (learned this trick from Chupie ).

Video on how to clip: https://youtu.be/KqzYGt7zPAc

Some great wavy-curly gurus that I follow with tons of advice and reviews are:
chupie, The Polished Curl, xbeautyandthegeekx, RockynCurls, and waterlily716 :-)
2b/c/3a.
My Current Routine (since May '15)
  • Scalp Treatment (seborrheic dermatitis): Alba Botanica Natural AcneDote Face & Body Scrub
  • No 'poo: SM 10-in-1 SuperFruit mixed w/ SM African Black Soap Cleansing
  • RO & LI: GVP Conditioning Balm
  • Gel: LA LOOKS Sports Gel
  • Deep Treatment & Enhancer: SM 10-in-1 Superfruit Masque & SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie

Last edited by chickitten; 04-02-2015 at 09:12 PM.
I wonder if there is a difference with the Deva clips. Loved the video. Thanks!! My hubby uses that gel, maybe I'll try it. So you think I need a harder hold gel? I have some Sweet Elixer gel as well as Spiral Solutions on the way. Today I tried a cream product and my sides fell pretty flat!
I wonder if there is a difference with the Deva clips. Loved the video. Thanks!! My hubby uses that gel, maybe I'll try it. So you think I need a harder hold gel? I have some Sweet Elixer gel as well as Spiral Solutions on the way. Today I tried a cream product and my sides fell pretty flat!
Originally Posted by thundersweet
Hmm I haven't checked out the Devaclips but since I have a Sally's card I'll probably just get a similar pack to the ones in the video there since I'm cheap and too impatient to wait for shipping haha. I think you should try out his gel sometime and see how your hair reacts to it, that way you can know if you need a stronger or weaker hold gel :-). And cool! If you can, post a review about how your hair reacts with the new products, reviews are always helpful . If you're having problems with your cream product, maybe try applying it from the middle of your length to the ends of your har instead of all over.
2b/c/3a.
My Current Routine (since May '15)
  • Scalp Treatment (seborrheic dermatitis): Alba Botanica Natural AcneDote Face & Body Scrub
  • No 'poo: SM 10-in-1 SuperFruit mixed w/ SM African Black Soap Cleansing
  • RO & LI: GVP Conditioning Balm
  • Gel: LA LOOKS Sports Gel
  • Deep Treatment & Enhancer: SM 10-in-1 Superfruit Masque & SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie
I was wondering if you color your hair? By your skin tone it looks like you may be a red head. Coloring will definitely make a difference in porosity and possibly what products will work best for you.
Haha! I do color it but I'm not a red head. My hair is dark. I do have a red highlights in the sun though I think. My mom and brother are both red heads. My other brother, dad, and me are all dark. I color to cover grey hair.

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