How Do You Know if You Have a Problem with Protein?

I am just wondering how you know whether or not you have a problem with protien? My hair is already very dry and I rotate with a protein conditioner. I cannot tell if my hair is any dryer than normal because sometimes it feels really dry and other times less dry.

What bugs me is that I can't seem to get hair that is any less dry consistently. I am scrunching shea butter into my hair and moisturizing daily, using a leave-in, etc. and doing weekly DT treatments, but my hair is just as dry as always, which makes me wonder whether or not its protein related (especially since I don't use 'cones and do clarify).

Please help me... and my poor dry tesses. Could this be from protein? Help!

ETA: I do co-wash or just conditiong everyday and I basically have to or my hair looks like crud. Don't get 2nd day hair that often and I have to use conditioner or again, hair looks like crud. I tried water only rinses and it does nada for me.
3B with some 3a. Fell off but am now back on the CG bandwagon and looking for my HG products.
Protein would make your hair feel dry, and almost crispy if your hair reacted badly to it. What I would suggest doing is go a whole week not using proteins, and moisturize your hair really well the whole time, and see if you notice any improvment in the way your hair feels.


I didn't notice if you mentioned this before, but do you shampoo? I know when I was shampooing I just couldn't get my hair to moisturize no matter what I did. I used the best conditioners, and DT'd weekly, and no matter what my hair was just dry. I eventually decided it was the shampoo that was keeping my hair from getting hydrated, and once I ditched that I noticed a huge improvment.
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Along the same lines of protein build-up....Does anyone know if amino acids tend to build up as much as proteins do? I just recently bought a bottle of the Suave Coconut Conditioner and it lists silk amino acids as one of the ingredients. So far I haven't had any problems, but I've had problems with other conditioners with protein in the past.
Silk amino acids ARE proteins, but they're not as bad as say Wheat Protein. Some people have a problem with them all. Some people do okay w/ soy protein or silk amino acids, but are bothered by the wheat protein. Personally I'm usually okay w/ a silk amino acid as long as it's a rinse out. If I leave it in, it will feel cakey. Wheat proteins I can't use AT ALL.
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Do you use silicone styling products? Something that is not allowing the moisture to penetrate the hair? Because Deva or Jessicurl won't remove alot of the silicones. That was my first thought.

Otherwise I would say stop the protein and see what happens. When I have used protein laden products my hair literally felt like straw, even in the shower while wet. It was near impossible to detangle and just felt rough and dry... like straw.

I use Deva and Jessicurl products too and since not using cones or proteins and doing a weekly DT with Jessicurls WDT, my hair has been in good shape. Maybe stop the proteins and add a weekly DT (a moisture one, not a protein one), even twice a week for a while if you think you need it.
2b/3a, primarily use Jessicurl and DevaCurl products, Curls Hair Tea conditioner and various gels. I'm modified CG-ish since 5/04.
I believe proteins are fantastic if your hair is damaged. If it's pretty healthy, there's really no benefit to be gained from them.

My hair is very dry, but I wouldn't call it damaged. It is *loving* the proteins right now... but I'll be very aware that could change soon.
My hair is somewhat crispy at times or straw-like. I do NOT shampoo nor do I used ANYTHING with silicones in it, except for the dimethicone that is water-soluable and I clarify every 1 - 2 weeks.

babywavy -- I have decided to follow your plan and give up all the proteins for a week and see if my hair seems to feel any better. In terms of moisturizing, how would I do that?

Today I did a DT with avacado, a bit of coconut milk and olive oil as a pre-poo and then I co-washed with Trader Joe's Refreshing Conditioner (that has citrus) and followed with Suave Naturals Coconut Condish.

For styling I used Jessicurl RR and then a bit of GF C&S leave-in topped off with L'Oreal Tightly Wound. My hair does feel softer today, but I'm not sure if it's the DT or the lack of proteins.

I kidna hope it's not a reaction to proteins because I have TONS of products with them in it and my hubby is already getting on my case about our ever-growing stash of hair products!
3B with some 3a. Fell off but am now back on the CG bandwagon and looking for my HG products.
My hair is somewhat crispy at times or straw-like. I do NOT shampoo nor do I used ANYTHING with silicones in it, except for the dimethicone that is water-soluable and I clarify every 1 - 2 weeks.

babywavy -- I have decided to follow your plan and give up all the proteins for a week and see if my hair seems to feel any better. In terms of moisturizing, how would I do that?

Today I did a DT with avacado, a bit of coconut milk and olive oil as a pre-poo and then I co-washed with Trader Joe's Refreshing Conditioner (that has citrus) and followed with Suave Naturals Coconut Condish.

For styling I used Jessicurl RR and then a bit of GF C&S leave-in topped off with L'Oreal Tightly Wound. My hair does feel softer today, but I'm not sure if it's the DT or the lack of proteins.

I kidna hope it's not a reaction to proteins because I have TONS of products with them in it and my hubby is already getting on my case about our ever-growing stash of hair products!
Originally Posted by CurlyQTPie
You mean PEG-modified dimethicone or dimethicone copolyol, right? (Just curious - regular dimethicone is, of course, not water soluble, but even the ones that are can sometimes give reeeeally sensitive curlies problems. It's weird and I've only seen very few curlies get build-up from water soluble cones, but it's out there.)
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I meant the kind of 'cones that are in the DevaCare products which, I've read here on the board, are water soluable which is why they're in them.
3B with some 3a. Fell off but am now back on the CG bandwagon and looking for my HG products.
Are protiens under any other name than protiens? Like how labels don;t just comeout and say "I am silicone, see me suck" they say " I am silicone, but unless you are smart you will never know that is what I am"

Sorry for the randomness.
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I meant the kind of 'cones that are in the DevaCare products which, I've read here on the board, are water soluable which is why they're in them.
Originally Posted by CurlyQTPie
Amodimethicone isn't water soluble...it's just one that some can get away with. Many also can't.

Are protiens under any other name than protiens? Like how labels don;t just comeout and say "I am silicone, see me suck" they say " I am silicone, but unless you are smart you will never know that is what I am"

Sorry for the randomness.
Originally Posted by JoshGroban'sRockin'Curls
Um, I know amino acids are proteins...keratin...can't think of any others.

Love the "I am silicone, watch me suck"
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