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Old 03-25-2007, 03:38 PM   #1
 
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I just found this site and I really need some help. My hair is a 2B-3A, and I am having serious problems with it. It is extremely frizzy. The end do this strange things where they are MAJORLY frizzy and don't curl at all. My hairstylist called them "fizzled out" and I've had them for years. I take vitamins, I don't straighten or blowdry, and I don't color my hair, but they are still there! It's horrible. I've taken to wearing my hair up everyday, but I want I want to wear it down. Can you help me get beautiful curls?
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Old 03-25-2007, 05:47 PM   #2
 
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just curious, how long is your hair right now? If the ends really do seem unhealthy and unresponsive to product/etc., it might be time for a trim. If not, you could try applying an extra leave-in conditioner to the ends only before you style your hair. I just got my long 2c/3a hair cut and it feels great having the old ends gone!!
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Thanks so much for responding. I've talked to my stylist about it and I'll get them cut but it comes back everytime within weeks. She says the ends aren't dead because it's not happening all over my head and because the ends were just cut, which makes it even more of a mystery.
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what products are you using? Have you ever tried the Curly Girl method. While it doesn't work for everyone, for some folks, it does wonders.
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I use tressemme shampoo and conditioners, and John Frieda secret weapon, and also GF C&S leave in conditioner. I'm not familiar with the Curly Girl method.
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I'm not even going to try to explain the CG method because I'll probably explain something wrong and it'll scare you away , but if you head over to the No-Shampoo routines board, they'll be able to describe it well. A lot of people follow it and get really good results (I'm just not one of them )

ETA: It's based on the Curly Girl book by Lorraine Massey. That might be a good starting point.
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Old 03-25-2007, 07:42 PM   #8
 
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here's a mini lesson in CG (curly girl)

http://www.naturallycurly.com/curl411/NoPoo.php
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Old 03-25-2007, 07:42 PM   #9
 
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Thank you for your help. Hopefully I'll soon be on my way to beautiful hair.
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Old 03-26-2007, 01:18 AM   #10
 
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Your hair may be weak despite the fact that you take vitamins, maybe you need more protein in your diet or you could try taking a silica supplement. Hair tends to frizz a lot when it's seriously lacking moisture, sulfated shampoos quickly deplete hair from moisture which together with brushin and/or normal friction against clothing can cause your ends to wear out faster. I too recommend that you read the CG book because it's the gentlest way to care for curly hair and the book contains "natural" recipes to nourish our curls that can easily be made at home (most of them are listed here in the "Recipe" section). If you don't feel sure about buying it try borrowing it from a public library but most people agree that it's worth buying.

Hopefully, by now you've already visited the Going Shampoo-less section and begun reading about it because the sooner you start spacing your shampoos (or eliminating them altogether) the faster your hair will begin to recover. Another thing you can do, that will immediately help your hair retain moisture, is giving it a couple of protein-rich DTs (deep treatments). Your best bet is to go to a beauty supply store such as Sally's and ask them to show you what they have, off the top of my head I know they carry ION Reconstructor which comes in packets for little over $1 ea.
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I can't help but noticing that while your original post says you don't straighten, your sig says you've given up the straightener for good. So you used to straighten, right? If your hair is long and the ends are giving you trouble, this might be the problem.

If your hair is damaged from previous things you did, or are even still doing straightening, perming, coloring, whatever you'll need to investigate repairing it in order to restore the curls and health.

This process can take many forms: for some, this means deep conditioning treatments, for others it means protein treatments, for others it means both, and for still others it means going curly girl. Or all of the above! Figuring out what your particular hair needs and responds to is the tricky part. But the more you learn, the easier it gets.

There is a ton of info on these boards already about these different approaches. So I would get comfortable with the boards' search function above left [not on the right, which is for the nc.com website as a whole] and if you run into any areas of confusion, just ask.
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That is a really good point which escaped my attention! Even if curlykayla had stopped straightening, let's say as an example a year ago, unless she'd cut off all but the new 6" grown since then, any of the "old" hair remaining would have already suffered loss of moisture and possibly protein due to damage to the cuticle. So trims alone cannot correct this situation. If wild~hair's supposition is accurate, a serious plan for nourishing the hair is in order and it should include ALL the types of DTs mentioned by her.
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HUGE thanks to everyone for all of the tips, I need all I can get!

I think that HalfWavyHalfCurly has a pretty good idea. See, I had this problem even before I began straightening, which was stupid to even start because it obviously wouldn't improve the health of my hair at all. None of my stylists have given me a good explanation to why it's there and how to get rid of it.

I read some posts about CG and going shampoo-less and I think I might have to be an occasional shampooer. But I'm going to try to cut down ALOT. Do you think that baby-shampoo would be safe to use?
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Hi,

Does your stylist razor-cut your hair? If so, this could be the problem. A friend of mine with stick-straight blonde hair let her stylist razor-cut her hair, and she had major frizzies and split ends afterwards.
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Old 03-28-2007, 11:09 PM   #15
 
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I read some posts about CG and going shampoo-less and I think I might have to be an occasional shampooer. But I'm going to try to cut down ALOT. Do you think that baby-shampoo would be safe to use?
If you keep using silicones on a regular basis you would need to continue to use shampoo and here's an article that details which ingredients in a shampoo are needed to remove "what": http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlco...es.php?id=5341. As long as you don't put ciclopentasiloxane on your hair you can use baby shampoo. Even if you can't do "full CG" you may be able to space your shampoos 7-10 days apart and in between just rinse your hair thoroughly and use a silicon-free CO only.

If you ever need to use a sulfated shampoo you can minimize its drying effect by diluting each individual portion with 2-3 parts of water (most shampoos are very concentrated to begin with), this would make distribution over your scalp and hair a lot easier and more efficient, which you will actually make you need to use less than before.
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That makes sense. I'll try it and see if I get an improvement.
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One other tip from a fairly new noobie: if you still must shampoo your hair, condition the ends FIRST. Try not to shampoo the ends, but rather, just close to the scalp. Rinse hair from top down and the shampoo will run over the ends, so this should help cleanse them a bit.
Of course, giving up sulfate shampoo would probably be the most helpful. It sounds really freaky but I swear, it does work. I have wavy hair that and the curl is coming through more and more each day (cep for today where the humidity was like 500% and so my hair never really did get dry, and it was lanky, ugh!) I have been using lo-poo and NO silicones...I think I am ready to try conditioner washing for a couple of days and see what happens.
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