Best and worst cleansing conditioners?

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What are your favorite cleansing conditioners? I've been interested in trying more of these! I just ordered Curl Junkie's 'Daily Fix' cleansing conditioner from Curlmart. I like that it's able to remove silicones! I want to start incorporate cleansing conditioners into my regimen. I'm going to give co-washing a try with my Giovanni conditioner as well... but I'm particularly interested in cleansing conditioners.

Do you have any favorites? Or even ones that you don't recommend? I'm really interested in trying co-washes! Especially ones that contain actually cleansing agents in them; that way if I put off shampoo, I don't need to worry about it.

Corkicelli 3B with a 3A top layer and a 3C bottom layer. High density, low porosity, norm-high elasticity & coarse. I cut 9+ inches on 8/16/15. 2yrs without straightening. CG since 6/25/15. Methylisothiazolinone allergy. Protein sensitive. Scalp issues. Cruelty free. BLOG
  • Giovanni: Avocado and Olive Oil (RO/DC), Tea Tree Sham & Con (RO)
  • KC: KT, CC, CC
  • CR: Curl Maker
  • CJ: DF, CIAB
  • EVOO
I would not bet the farm on CJ cleansing conditioner removing silicones. Maybe it does...but for me (I have some) it is heavy, hard to distribute and does an OK job but its expensive. I have L'Oreal's cleansing conditioner which I preferred to the CJ, but as I have said here, I do 2 "washes" with Giovanni tea tree and that works really well. I also do not co wash every time I wash. that seems to "overdo" my hair. ...isnt it maddening, all the products, all the opinions?
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with the cj daily fix (which my hair loves) i do add water to it after i apply it to my hair, it seems to need a bit to wash better, i just dip my head very quickly under the shower after i apply the daily fix. however, for me, that says i can use a little and stretch the amount. i believe the directions on the bottle say to do that.
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styling: cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab. cj aloe fix gel is my high dews/summer HG!!
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I like the CJ Daily Fix but I found a gem on Etsy by the company, NaturelleGrow...it's their Peppermint Cleansing Cream...$12.95 for 8oz. There are reviews on Youtube and their Etsy store.

If you just want to use a conditioner, Kiss My Face Whenever is nice because it has cleansing agent.
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Last edited by twirlygranny; 11-28-2015 at 10:23 AM.
I sometimes use Oribe Cleansing Creme, which is really nice. I don't know if it can remove silicones, though I would assume that it can since it's a salon product. It's kind of pricey, but you don't need that much. I find that it cleanses my scalp very well but doesn't leave it feeling dry or my hair feeling stripped.
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Low poo: Griffin Remedy Volumizing; Oribe Cleansing Creme
RO: Mineral Fusion Volumizing; Griffin Remedy Volumizing; Aubrey Organics GPB
LI: Alaffia BC; Intelligent Nutrients
Stylers: MGA Sculpting Gel; InnerSense whipped creme texturizer; Sevi Blue Yarrow Styling Pomade; Intelligent Nutrients Volumizing Spray; Intelligent Nutrients Perfect Hold Hairspray
Sealer: Intelligent Nutrients Styling Pomade

High-porosity 2a baby-fine hair with a coarse section at back of head
Love Oribe stuff.
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I like Daily Fix and can vouch for its ability to remove silicones. Another option is DevaCARE No-Poo, which also has coco betaine near the top of the ingredient list (slightly lower than Daily Fix, so it might not be effective if you use a ton of silicones, but it works well for me). I would hesitate on Oribe unless you can get a full ingredient list. If you're looking for the ability to remove silicones you need either coco betaine or cocamidopropyl betaine somewhere at least kind of high up on the ingredient list. It's not something that's price dependent.
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Modified CG since 11/5/11
CLEANSE: CJ Daily Fix, DevaCare No-Poo, CHS Treatment Shampoo
RO: SS Caitlin's Conditioner, CJ Beauticurls Strengthening
LI: SS Repairing Protein Treatment, CHS Silk Leave-In
STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier,Sweet Curls Elixirs Okra Gel and Hard Hold Gel, SS Curl Enhancing Jelly and Firm Hold Gel
Me and cleansing creams don't get along but I do remember liking the one from Miss Jessie's Creme De La Curl now called Co-Wash. It has cones (but i read that it is soluble) and proteins so if you avoid either of those...this aint it! lol.
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I previously asked Oribe to e-mail me the complete ingredients list for the Cleansing Creme. It doesn't include coco betaine or cocamidopropyl betaine. Are those the only ingredients that can remove silicones? (I don't use silicones, so I can't vouch for whether the Oribe Cleansing Creme removes them. I just figured that it would since I assumed that Oribe would want its cleansers to be able to remove the silicones in its stylers. But you never know!)

Aqua/Water/Eau, Cetearyl Alcohol, Cetyl Alcohol, Behentrimonium Chloride,
Isododecane, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine,
Glycerin, Parfum/Fragrance, Hydrogenated Ethylhexyl Olivate, Caffeine,
Panthenol, Litchi Chinensis Pericarp Extract,
Leontopodium Alpinum (Edelweiss) Extract, Citrullus Lanatus (Watermelon)
Fruit Extract, Pisum Sativum (Pea) Extract, Styrax
Benzoin (Amber) Resin Extract, Citrus Aurantium Dulcis (Orange) Flower
Extract, Citrus Limon (Lemon) Peel Extract, Mentha
Aquatica Leaf Extract, Caprylyl Glycol, Ethylhexylglycerin, Hydrolyzed
Vegetable Protein PG-Propyl Silanetriol, Oryza Sativa (Rice)
Seed Protein, Cynara Scolymus (Artichoke) Leaf Extract, Guar
Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Polysorbate 60, Menthone
Glycerin Acetal, Jojoba Esters, Cocos Nucifera (Coconut) Oil, Moringa
Oleifera Seed Oil, Prunus Insititia Seed Oil, Camellia
Oleifera Seed Oil, Citrus Limon (Lemon) Fruit Extract, Moringa
Pterygosperma Seed Extract, Benzyl Alcohol, Benzoic Acid,
Hydrolyzed Keratin, Keratin, Cystine Bis-PG-Propyl Silanetriol, Oryza
Sativa (Rice) Extract, Saccharomyces Lysate, Ceteareth-20,
Disodium EDTA, Quaternium-95, Hydrolyzed Rice Protein, Hydrolyzed Corn
Protein, Hydrolyzed Yeast Protein, Vicia Faba Seed
Extract, Propanediol, BHT, Butylene Glycol, Glutamic Acid, Glycine,
Threonine, Valine, Pentaerythrityl Tetra-Di-T-Butyl
Hydroxyhydrocinnamate, Hydrogenated Olive Oil Unsaponifiables, Phytic
Acid, Lactic Acid, Citric Acid, Phenoxyethanol,
Chlorphenesin, Sorbic Acid, Methylisothiazolinone, Butylphenyl
Methylpropional, Hexyl Cinnamal, Limonene
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Low poo: Griffin Remedy Volumizing; Oribe Cleansing Creme
RO: Mineral Fusion Volumizing; Griffin Remedy Volumizing; Aubrey Organics GPB
LI: Alaffia BC; Intelligent Nutrients
Stylers: MGA Sculpting Gel; InnerSense whipped creme texturizer; Sevi Blue Yarrow Styling Pomade; Intelligent Nutrients Volumizing Spray; Intelligent Nutrients Perfect Hold Hairspray
Sealer: Intelligent Nutrients Styling Pomade

High-porosity 2a baby-fine hair with a coarse section at back of head
I would not bet the farm on CJ cleansing conditioner removing silicones. Maybe it does...but for me (I have some) it is heavy, hard to distribute and does an OK job but its expensive. I have L'Oreal's cleansing conditioner which I preferred to the CJ, but as I have said here, I do 2 "washes" with Giovanni tea tree and that works really well. I also do not co wash every time I wash. that seems to "overdo" my hair. ...isnt it maddening, all the products, all the opinions?
Originally Posted by Myrna
I don't use silicones at the moment, so I wasn't too worried about it being something that I specifically needed in a cleansing conditioner. However, I just needed a cleansing conditioner that would clean well and could remove silicones if I implemented in my routine. I don't think my hair likes silicones, especially from my last experience. I've just stayed away from them since then. I think my hair is happier without them... but I don't want to completely rule them out. You know what I mean?

I do use a shampoo that can remove silicones which makes things a lot easier!

I do really love the Daily Fix so far. I do see it being heavy and thick. It wasn't like the slipperily consistency of the Tea Tree that's for sure! I had a very positive experience from it though.

I wet my hair thoroughly then applied a quarter amount of the Daily Fix per section. After that, I scrubbed my scalp. I then put my hair up in a bun for 3-7 minutes (I do this every wash). Afterwards, I was able to detangle my hair with it. I just kept needing to rewet my hair and apply small amounts of product. My hair is not easy to detangle and it was really bad, so I was impressed. I use maybe 1.5oz of the product if that.

I think I'll use it once a week. I agree with you about the co-washing! I also don't want to overdo my hair. I've read so many people who are low porosity who get bad experiences from overdoing co-washing. I'm trying to keep a good balance of shampoo and co-washing. I do like that the Daily Fix has cleansing agents to it.

Yes -- you're so right!! It gets so confusing and overwhelming sometimes!! Besides the opinions, it's so hard trying to understand what your hair may like and what it'll hate! It's like spinning in a circle sometimes.

Thank you so much for always recommending me products and giving me so much help. I really appreciate it!
Corkicelli 3B with a 3A top layer and a 3C bottom layer. High density, low porosity, norm-high elasticity & coarse. I cut 9+ inches on 8/16/15. 2yrs without straightening. CG since 6/25/15. Methylisothiazolinone allergy. Protein sensitive. Scalp issues. Cruelty free. BLOG
  • Giovanni: Avocado and Olive Oil (RO/DC), Tea Tree Sham & Con (RO)
  • KC: KT, CC, CC
  • CR: Curl Maker
  • CJ: DF, CIAB
  • EVOO
with the cj daily fix (which my hair loves) i do add water to it after i apply it to my hair, it seems to need a bit to wash better, i just dip my head very quickly under the shower after i apply the daily fix. however, for me, that says i can use a little and stretch the amount. i believe the directions on the bottle say to do that.
Originally Posted by rbb
That's exactly how I used it. I LOVED it! I was even able to detangle with it which was really surprising! I've only been able to detangle with the No-Poo from the 'Decadence' line. I wet my hair first, applied it section by section, wrapped up my hair in a bun for a few minutes, then detangled it with more wet and a little bit more of product. I was able to scrub my head again when my hair was detangle, so it really made my scalp feel clean!

It was just as good as DevaCurl 'Decadence' which worked amazing for my hair (surprisingly) but was protein-free. I'm definitely going to repurchase it! I was surprised that I was able to detangle with it. I wish the bottle was bigger... but I only used about 1.5oz of the product. I figure if I rotate it that I can get a lot more usage from it.

Thank you sooooo much for recommending Curl Junkie to me! I love everything that I've tried so far. I can't wait to try more of their products!
Corkicelli 3B with a 3A top layer and a 3C bottom layer. High density, low porosity, norm-high elasticity & coarse. I cut 9+ inches on 8/16/15. 2yrs without straightening. CG since 6/25/15. Methylisothiazolinone allergy. Protein sensitive. Scalp issues. Cruelty free. BLOG
  • Giovanni: Avocado and Olive Oil (RO/DC), Tea Tree Sham & Con (RO)
  • KC: KT, CC, CC
  • CR: Curl Maker
  • CJ: DF, CIAB
  • EVOO
I like the CJ Daily Fix but I found a gem on Etsy by the company, NaturelleGrow...it's their Peppermint Cleansing Cream...$12.95 for 8oz. There are reviews on Youtube and their Etsy store.

If you just want to use a conditioner, Kiss My Face Whenever is nice because it has cleansing agent.
Originally Posted by twirlygranny
I can't use the Kiss My Face Whenever because it has lemon it. I have a lemon allergy. I actually was going to purchase it a few months ago... but luckily I check the ingredients on everything before I buy it.

Thanks so much for recommending me NaturelleGrow! I actually got recommended to try them before, so I put a few of their products on my wish list. I'll definitely try to try that as well!
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Corkicelli 3B with a 3A top layer and a 3C bottom layer. High density, low porosity, norm-high elasticity & coarse. I cut 9+ inches on 8/16/15. 2yrs without straightening. CG since 6/25/15. Methylisothiazolinone allergy. Protein sensitive. Scalp issues. Cruelty free. BLOG
  • Giovanni: Avocado and Olive Oil (RO/DC), Tea Tree Sham & Con (RO)
  • KC: KT, CC, CC
  • CR: Curl Maker
  • CJ: DF, CIAB
  • EVOO
I sometimes use Oribe Cleansing Creme, which is really nice. I don't know if it can remove silicones, though I would assume that it can since it's a salon product. It's kind of pricey, but you don't need that much. I find that it cleanses my scalp very well but doesn't leave it feeling dry or my hair feeling stripped.
Originally Posted by Therese1
WOW! I can't believe that 8.5oz is $44!

I'm on a limited budget and even the prices products that I've bought like DevaCurl are only $32-42 for a liter size.. but that just seems so ridiculously expensive for so little product! How much do you use when it use it? I'm honestly interested. I heard that a lot of justify the cost of Living Proof because you use so little.

I probably won't ever use the Oribe products because of the cost, but I am sincerely interested in how much you use versus a regular cleanser.
Corkicelli 3B with a 3A top layer and a 3C bottom layer. High density, low porosity, norm-high elasticity & coarse. I cut 9+ inches on 8/16/15. 2yrs without straightening. CG since 6/25/15. Methylisothiazolinone allergy. Protein sensitive. Scalp issues. Cruelty free. BLOG
  • Giovanni: Avocado and Olive Oil (RO/DC), Tea Tree Sham & Con (RO)
  • KC: KT, CC, CC
  • CR: Curl Maker
  • CJ: DF, CIAB
  • EVOO
Love Oribe stuff.
Originally Posted by chupie
I've never heard of the brand before today, but the products do look interesting. It's definitely out of my price range, though!
Corkicelli 3B with a 3A top layer and a 3C bottom layer. High density, low porosity, norm-high elasticity & coarse. I cut 9+ inches on 8/16/15. 2yrs without straightening. CG since 6/25/15. Methylisothiazolinone allergy. Protein sensitive. Scalp issues. Cruelty free. BLOG
  • Giovanni: Avocado and Olive Oil (RO/DC), Tea Tree Sham & Con (RO)
  • KC: KT, CC, CC
  • CR: Curl Maker
  • CJ: DF, CIAB
  • EVOO
Me and cleansing creams don't get along but I do remember liking the one from Miss Jessie's Creme De La Curl now called Co-Wash. It has cones (but i read that it is soluble) and proteins so if you avoid either of those...this aint it! lol.
Originally Posted by Glamourstruckk
LOL! I do avoid silicones and proteins (I think this is fitting for a 'coarse hair problems' hashtag, LOL) but thank you so much for thinking of me to recommend it to me!
Corkicelli 3B with a 3A top layer and a 3C bottom layer. High density, low porosity, norm-high elasticity & coarse. I cut 9+ inches on 8/16/15. 2yrs without straightening. CG since 6/25/15. Methylisothiazolinone allergy. Protein sensitive. Scalp issues. Cruelty free. BLOG
  • Giovanni: Avocado and Olive Oil (RO/DC), Tea Tree Sham & Con (RO)
  • KC: KT, CC, CC
  • CR: Curl Maker
  • CJ: DF, CIAB
  • EVOO
I like Daily Fix and can vouch for its ability to remove silicones. Another option is DevaCARE No-Poo, which also has coco betaine near the top of the ingredient list (slightly lower than Daily Fix, so it might not be effective if you use a ton of silicones, but it works well for me). I would hesitate on Oribe unless you can get a full ingredient list. If you're looking for the ability to remove silicones you need either coco betaine or cocamidopropyl betaine somewhere at least kind of high up on the ingredient list. It's not something that's price dependent.
Originally Posted by Corrina777
Would you say that the DevaCare 'No-Poo' is similar to the original No-Poo? The original No-Poo instantly made my scalp itch. There was something in it that my scalp hated. It gave me serious dandruff and really bad itchiness! The 'Decadence: No-Poo' didn't make itch at all; it was just the original No-Poo!

Speaking of the 'Decadence; No Poo' -- do you know if it can remove silicones at all, or at the very least, is actually cleansing? I have been thinking of getting a 12oz bottle of that and the conditioner (to give my hair some protein once in awhile) but I'm not sure if it's actually cleansing or not.

I don't use silicones currently (I don't think my hair likes them too much) but I do like the idea that my cleansing conditioner can remove them, in case I try them again or end up using them! I definitely won't be using the Oribe products (it's $44 for 8.5 oz -- eeeeek!!) but I will keep that in mind for future.
Corkicelli 3B with a 3A top layer and a 3C bottom layer. High density, low porosity, norm-high elasticity & coarse. I cut 9+ inches on 8/16/15. 2yrs without straightening. CG since 6/25/15. Methylisothiazolinone allergy. Protein sensitive. Scalp issues. Cruelty free. BLOG
  • Giovanni: Avocado and Olive Oil (RO/DC), Tea Tree Sham & Con (RO)
  • KC: KT, CC, CC
  • CR: Curl Maker
  • CJ: DF, CIAB
  • EVOO
I previously asked Oribe to e-mail me the complete ingredients list for the Cleansing Creme. It doesn't include coco betaine or cocamidopropyl betaine. Are those the only ingredients that can remove silicones? (I don't use silicones, so I can't vouch for whether the Oribe Cleansing Creme removes them. I just figured that it would since I assumed that Oribe would want its cleansers to be able to remove the silicones in its stylers. But you never know!)
Originally Posted by Therese1
Someone who is more knowledgable on this -- correct me if I'm wrong -- but I think that means the cleansing conditioner cannot remove silicones. I think it needs to have a more serious cleansing agent to it to able to remove silicones.

I noticed a lot of brands put out products without silicones while still having stylers with silicones! I don't understand why! A lot of brands do it. It's really frustrating. :P
Corkicelli 3B with a 3A top layer and a 3C bottom layer. High density, low porosity, norm-high elasticity & coarse. I cut 9+ inches on 8/16/15. 2yrs without straightening. CG since 6/25/15. Methylisothiazolinone allergy. Protein sensitive. Scalp issues. Cruelty free. BLOG
  • Giovanni: Avocado and Olive Oil (RO/DC), Tea Tree Sham & Con (RO)
  • KC: KT, CC, CC
  • CR: Curl Maker
  • CJ: DF, CIAB
  • EVOO
bookgrdngirl....Devacurl No Poo and CJ Daily Fix both have protein

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Last edited by twirlygranny; 12-13-2015 at 02:27 PM.
bookgrdngirl....Devacurl No Poo and CJ Daily Fix both have protein

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Originally Posted by twirlygranny
Wow!! Thank you so much for letting me know! I honestly had no idea that Daily Fix had protein!

When I looked for protein in the ingredients, I didn't see any in the ingredients which is why I figured it was protein-free. I guess I must've read it wrong. I definitely felt the crunchiness in Eco... but it got really bad when my hair felt like straw and I lost more hair in the shower. That's why I stopped using it. Once I cut Eco out, my hair didn't feel like straw anymore. When I used all the DevaCurl products together at one time, my hair also felt like straw... but not when I used the One Condition by itself.

I'm not using the Daily Fix every day, so hopefully I won't protein overload. Do you know what ingredient is the protein in the Daily Fix? I'm not noticing any crunchiness with it.

I know my hair doesn't mind silk protein. Or at least, it hasn't minded the silk protein in my Giovanni leave-in or the Shea Moisture products that I used with silk protein in them. I read a blog post awhile ago with someone with coarse like me who could tolerate silk protein, but lost hair to Eco Styler. It's hard trying to navigate protein sensitivity!
Corkicelli 3B with a 3A top layer and a 3C bottom layer. High density, low porosity, norm-high elasticity & coarse. I cut 9+ inches on 8/16/15. 2yrs without straightening. CG since 6/25/15. Methylisothiazolinone allergy. Protein sensitive. Scalp issues. Cruelty free. BLOG
  • Giovanni: Avocado and Olive Oil (RO/DC), Tea Tree Sham & Con (RO)
  • KC: KT, CC, CC
  • CR: Curl Maker
  • CJ: DF, CIAB
  • EVOO
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