Need help from product junkies

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hi all,
I've only been embracing my curls for about 3 months, and I'm finding it difficult to find products that work for me. recently someone told me that i need to use a product combo unchanged for at least 2 weeks to find out if it works. is that how it's done? i tried the deva gel, and it made my hair feel horribly dry, so i have never used it again, should i persevere for 2 weeks ?

how do you find the right products for you?
2C/3A
shampoo: Aubrey Organics Honeysuckle Rose
conditioner: Aubrey Organics Island Naturals
leave-in: Shea Moisture Coconut Hibiscus Curl Enhancing Smoothie
sealing oil: olive, coconut, avocado
gel: Deva

alternating weeks
protein: Aphogee 2 Minute Reconstructor
moisture: Cantu Deep Treatment Masque
Well I personally wouldn't use a product if I had an immediate bad reaction. If you don't want to spend a lot of time and money trying things that might not work I'd recommend going to Etsy and having Goosefootprints do a hair analysis.

If you don't want to do that then I'd recommend reading TONS on here and finding your "hair twin", someone with hair properties like yours and see what they use.

Unfortunately there will always be some trial and error trying to find what's best for you.
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< member since 2006 (no idea where 1969 came from ).

Med/high porosity; color treated; med density 2c/3a.

Summer: (when humid) co-wash & leave-in Matrix Biolage Cleansing Conditioner for Curly Hair. Ouidad Climate Control Heat & Humidity Gel. Spring and Fall: co-wash Curl Junkie Repair Me! or CJ BeautiCurls Strengthening Hair Conditioner; CJ Curl Assurance Smoothing Lotion as a leave-in followed by CJ Curl Queen. Winter add in CJ Coffee-Coco Curl Creme Lite.

Last edited by eche428; 06-20-2016 at 08:58 AM. Reason: punctuation
I agree with the above. If I have an immediately noticeable bad reaction, I tend to let it go.

Although it is true that some disliked products can actually work with a bit of tweaking, some results are instant no-go's for me. For example, both Kinky Curly Knot Today (leave-in) and Camille Rose Naturals Curl Maker (styler) dried my hair out immediately upon application. I could try using a moisturizer underneath, but my whole thing is minimalism, so if a product makes me need to purchase another, it's automatically ruled out.

Also, if a product makes my scalp itch, flake, or leaves white specks in my hair (like Obia Naturals Boing! did for me), there's no debating that; it's out.

So it's up to you to determine if you want to keep it or not. Are you willing to try it paired with something else? What properties are you looking for in a product, and does it have ANY of those? I would say that the Kinky Curly Knot Today had EXCELLENT detangling properties, which was perfect for my tangly curls and coils. For that reason alone, I would have considered keeping it and finding something to help with moisture. On the other hand, the Curl Maker didn't do anything particularly special for me, so I wasn't even slightly considering keeping it. See which of these the gel is like for you. If it does nothing special, no point in trying to make yourself like it! However, if it has some properties that are great, maybe you could find something to make up for what it lacks
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Medium texture, with some fine. Colored. High porosity, high density. Mostly 3c; multicultural.

•Conditioner: *Currently* using DevaCare One Condition
•No-poo: *Currently* using Decadence No-Poo
•Styler(s): *Currently* using DevaCurl SuperCream, As I Am Curling Jelly.
•CG as of 12/?/2014, BC 04/?/2015. First CG cut 7/9/2015.
Unless my hair (or skin) really freaked out, I'd give a product a few tries, but not 2 weeks straight. For example, I didn't like KCCC the first time I tried it, but then I read that it worked better over KCKT, tried that and LOVED it. I'll always try something more than once just because bad hair days are a thing and my technique isn't the best yet.

There's also the issue of dewpoint, etc. If I try something for the first time in a high dewpoint/humidity and get bad results, I'll try it again at a lower dewpoint/humidity and vice versa.

But if I try something a few times, in varying conditions and I don't like it, I'm not forcing it. There are a ton of alternatives, why bother sticking with something that doesn't work for you?
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CG since May 1, 2016
3a (at the moment), fine, thin, highly porous, no elasticity (bleach and heat damage)
most luck so far with KCKT and KCCC with a little jojoba oil to SOTC *tried diffusing! wow!*
added CK for high humidity
SM Weightless Texture Spray for refreshing
gelatin PT 2x per week, DT 3x per week
If I have an immediate reaction that is highly undesirable, I lay off the product for a few days and then try it again. If I get the same result, I either try using it a different way (say, using a lot more or a lot less; using it without/with other products) or else shelve it until the dew points change. I have found that a lot of products that make my hair horrible in summer make my hair beautiful in winter.

I have also had it happen where the porosity of my hair will change significantly, at which point something that didn't work for me in the past will now work. So I tend to keep most of my "problem children" on hand and try them out when my hair seems like it has changed.
Low poo: Intelligent Nutrients (IN) Harmonizing; Oribe Cleansing Creme
RO: IN Harmonizing
LI: As I Am; CJ Beauticurls
Stylers: IN Straight Hair Serum; IN Volumizing Foam; IN Volumizing Spray; IN Styling Gel; IN Perfect Hold Hairspray

Normal- to low-porosity 2a/b baby-fine hair with a coarse section at back of head
Thanks for all your replies!
Thanks especially to curlamaryllis! I want to try the KCCC next, but am also looking for a new leave in. The KCKT was on the list, but now I know I will try the 2 together! Both my leave in and gel are about to run out 😉 I have kept using them because they do some of want I want: the AIA leave in is lovely on my hair, but I don't like the smell... The Cantu gel doesn't leave my hair feeling dry, but I would like some more hold.
2C/3A
shampoo: Aubrey Organics Honeysuckle Rose
conditioner: Aubrey Organics Island Naturals
leave-in: Shea Moisture Coconut Hibiscus Curl Enhancing Smoothie
sealing oil: olive, coconut, avocado
gel: Deva

alternating weeks
protein: Aphogee 2 Minute Reconstructor
moisture: Cantu Deep Treatment Masque
I would continue playing around w/ each product but in different combinations and using techniques that worked for me in the past (scrunching, diffusing, clipping roots, etc.)


I think most products would work for me, used in the right combinations/amounts and given the correct weather conditions. It's all trial and error. But no, assuming the weather conditions and all other factors are equal, I don't see any wisdom in redoing the exact same regimen for 14 days w/o any success.
3b (with 3c tendencies) on modified CG

hi all,
I've only been embracing my curls for about 3 months, and I'm finding it difficult to find products that work for me. recently someone told me that i need to use a product combo unchanged for at least 2 weeks to find out if it works. is that how it's done? i tried the deva gel, and it made my hair feel horribly dry, so i have never used it again, should i persevere for 2 weeks ?

how do you find the right products for you?
Originally Posted by Sopott
Hair, like skin, takes AT LEAST two weeks - usually, more like a month - to adapt to new products and routines. While your hair itself is dead, your scalp is not. Products that you use for a few days and look really great might end up making your hair too dry/oily/stiff after a week or two because of how your scalp - and hair follicles - adapt to the product. On the flip side, products that just don't seem to be working could take a while to start working because your scalp needs to adapt to them! This is especially true for conditioners!

Just like with skin products, you should try to introduce one new product at a time. I always suggest giving it a couple of weeks. Then you'll know how your scalp likes it, how your hair shaft absorbs the product, and if the product causes any other issues - like breakouts!

It's all trial and error, and it takes a long time. My best advice is to find one or two products you like and work okay, and if you need to change one to get it to work AWESOME, do your research! Ask here on the forums, read the reviews on CurlMart, etc. I spend a TOOOON of time looking up everything about a product - ingredients, what kind of hair types like it, what kind of hair types don't like it, etc - before I take the plunge. Even then, sometimes it doesn't work out, and that's okay! Always get a sample size or a small size just in case.

Good luck!!
2c/3a - M - iii - mid-back length - med. porosity - protein sensitive
Bleached and colored ~2x a year, every year

Routine every 3 days:
No-Poo for 10 years and counting!: Briogeo Be Gentle, Be Kind Avocado and Quinoa Cowash
Deep Conditioner: Brieogeo Don't Despair, Repair!
Styling: 1st - AG Re:Coil, 2nd - Moxie Bling Pomade, 3rd - DevaCurl Ultra Hold Gel
Air-dry only, pineapple overnight
It is definitely a ton of trial and error. I also found that HOW a product is applied, and how much, can really affect whether it works. I do my application to dripping wet hair, in the shower, really gently. I didn't like the Deva gel at first either, until I realized I was applying it wrong. Now I can't live without it. Sometimes adding more product makes it better, other times less. My hair is kind of fine, and low porosity, so I have to skip most products with butters and oils bc they weigh me down, but that was also a try and learn process. You'll get it!
Ive tried a few time to get an answer to the question of - how long should I wait to see if a product works, and never really got much of an answer. I cant get anything to work very well. And I have a bad habit of switching alot of things up at the same time. If I cant see a noticeable difference after one or two uses, under the counter it goes. Maybe I should try them for alot longer. ALOT longer.

About the only thing I have noticed pattern with is oils - that it takes about 8-12 hours for oils to make my hair soft. Generally its about bedtime when my hair starts to look its best.
2b with some 2a in front, 2b/2c in back
Low/Med density, High porosity
Course texture, Med length
Prewash: Coconut oil
Lo poo: Loreal Eversleek Reparative Smoothing
Cowash: Experimenting
RO: GVP CB
Leave In: KCKT/Tres Bot/Experimenting
Deep condition: SM DTM/Experimenting
Protein: Hask Keratin
Styler: Cantu Curl Cream, Camille Rose CM, Got2be Spiking Glue

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