Half Wavy Half curly help!

The top of my hair is wavy and my bottom 5-6 inches is curly. I have no idea what to do about it. I'm not transitioning from a relaxer or anything.

I just got LOOB to work for my curls but it does nothing for my 6 inches of wavy frizzy thick roots. I've been doing the deadly sin of lightly running a flat iron over my curls to loosen them into waves and then pulling my hair back. my curls are 3c/4a, I have no idea what my waves are.

How can I get my roots to curly and look piecey, not frizzy without being producty?
3C/4A.
You know, whenever I've read of anyone having a "flat top" it's usually the less curly types, it even happens to me sometimes but then I'm happy with just getting some wave at the top, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to help. So if any other 3C/4As are reading and have suggestions please jump right in!

In any case, first I have some questions for you: is this the way your hair always is or is it just behaving like this recently? What is your usual routine? Do you shampoo and with what and how often? Or are you on CG? (Also please mention what CO(s) you use).

Next, right off the bat I'll tell you that LOOB's heavy consistency flattened out my delicate fine hair. I just used it on Saturday for the 2nd time and I had to work hard to get all my hair to recurl. It also did not help clumping at all, especially after all the manipulating I had to do to distribute it evenly, etc. The only good thing it did for me was to stretch my short curls, something I welcome after all the trimming I had to do to fix a bad cut I got. So if this only happened after trying this that could be the reason; a lighter product, at least in the root area, would probably work better for you.

I don't know if this could work the same for you but I got way better clumping and definition with a mixture of Organic Root Stimulator Lock & Twist Gel mixed with Fruit of the Earth 100% Aloe Vera Gel, which btw is a very moisturizing combination.
2A/3A, medium length, layered, colored dark/medium ash blonde - "CGer" since April '02.

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My hair is flatter on the top too, especially now as it's pretty long. My best results come from detangling my hair in the shower and then flipping my head over, detangling again upside down. I then rinse upside down, put my products in upside down and then go straight to tying my hair up in a t-shirt to plop. I keep my hair like this while I do my make up and stuff.

After I take the tee off I'll usually put some clips in at the roots. Then I leave for work and aim the car vents at my hair to dry it. I take the clips out when I get to work and usually my roots are okay and not too flat, at least not as flat as when I do everything right side up and don't plop.

Hope that helps a bit.
2b/3a, primarily use Jessicurl and DevaCurl products, Curls Hair Tea conditioner and various gels. I'm modified CG-ish since 5/04.
In any case, first I have some questions for you: is this the way your hair always is or is it just behaving like this recently? What is your usual routine? Do you shampoo and with what and how often? Or are you on CG?
It's always been like this. I shampoo (non sulphates) every 3 days. I've tried CG many times but my hair hates it so I just avoid cones and sulphates.
3C/4A.
Thanks for the info. I think your best bet is to try plopping as kimmyc suggested, I tried it when my hair was a little longer and it worked pretty well. Another option is to strategically place clips at the roots to "release the top layer of hair from its own weight".
2A/3A, medium length, layered, colored dark/medium ash blonde - "CGer" since April '02.

"Converting the 'curlskeptics' one curly head at a time..." HWHC
HalfWavy, HalfCurly,

What clips do you use to lift the roots at the crown of your head? How exactly do you position them? I am looking for some lift and have had no luck when experimenting with clips/claws. Thanks
2B/3A?? Newbie trying lots of new products thanks to all the info from my "curlfriends"
The clips I use to lift the roots are the double prong ones recommended in the "CG" book, here's what they look like: http://salon.wimexbeauty.com/Merchan...gory_Code=7030.

I'm rather visually oriented so I have difficulty coming up with the right words to describe how to place the pins the way it's shown in the "CG" book. I don't have a scanner anymore or else I'd copy those pics for you so unless someone else comes to the rescue again I can only suggest that you try to take a look at the book - maybe your public library has it. To be honest, it's been a good while since I last clipped my roots that way, I feel it works best for people who have long layers and for the past year mine has been on the shorter side and most of the time I'm wearing my hair parted on the left side so I just place a few clips perpendicularly along the part and sometimes along the hairline to keep my hair off my forehead while it's drying.
2A/3A, medium length, layered, colored dark/medium ash blonde - "CGer" since April '02.

"Converting the 'curlskeptics' one curly head at a time..." HWHC
I use mini claw clips (about 6 or 7) bought at the grocery store. After product application (and I've scrunched out the access drip), I open the claw and with it grab chunks of my hair on the crown, this methed (for me) provides that little bit of extra volume at the top and helps define my curl from the root, love it!
2b/3a.
Thank you! I don't know if it was you who mentioned this months ago in another thread but it really sounds easier than the metal clips, I'm even going to give it a try myself and I hope it can help Dell.
2A/3A, medium length, layered, colored dark/medium ash blonde - "CGer" since April '02.

"Converting the 'curlskeptics' one curly head at a time..." HWHC
CurlyinCo and HalfWavyHalfCurly,

Thanks for the tips, I'll give them try...
2B/3A?? Newbie trying lots of new products thanks to all the info from my "curlfriends"
I also use the mini claws for the top of my head also...I use about 4-5 depending upon what/where it looks flat - I put them in after I plop and leave them in while I brush my teeth/dress etc then I take them out when I diffuse. I have thought about leaving them in while diffusing for a while but have not tried that yet.
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Me, too! I use the mini claw clips for the top of my head and find, for me, that they work much better than the duckbill clips. I put them in after plopping and diffusing, leave them in while doing makeup, finding clothes to wear, etc. (about 20 minutes or so) and then take them out. They are so much easier to grip the hair right at the roots and I get much more lift with them.
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OOPS - double post. Sorry.



Me, too! I use the mini claw clips for the top of my head and find, for me, that they work much better than the duckbill clips. I put them in after plopping and diffusing, leave them in while doing makeup, finding clothes to wear, etc. (about 20 minutes or so) and then take them out. They are so much easier to grip the hair right at the roots and I get much more lift with them.
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Fine, Thick, Normal Porosity, Normal Elasticity

Countess Balashi of Divi Beach in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

If I'm Going To Have A Bad Hair Day, It Might As Well Be In Aruba!

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