Why don't hairdressers know...

...how to style curly hair? I just don't get it.

I got my hair cut today by the same woman that I've been going to off and on for years. I've pretty much trained her how to cut my hair. Over the years I've learned a lot about how to take care of my hair and even though I talk to her about it some, she doesn't seem to learn anything.

When my hair was long I would have her french braid it after she cut it. Partially because I liked the way it looked, but even more to keep her from styling it and having to go home and redo it.

Now my hair is too short to braid and last time she cut it I was amazed that she actually suggested I go home and use my products on it and style it since my stuff works better for curly hair.

For some strange reason today she actually "styled" it. Of course it was already half dry since she'd been cutting it. Then she raked some gel through and proceeded to blow it almost all the way dry (without a diffuser), raking her fingers through it and pulling on it the whole time. Needless to say, it looked like it had been brushed when she was done. I just watched helplessly in the mirror wondering when she was going to stop and if she really thought that looked good.

So now I'm home and have rewet and styled myself. I'm soaking wet now so I don't know how the cut is yet. Funny thing is, she usually gives me a pretty good cut.

So, if 60% of women have curly hair, why don't hairdressers know how to work with it? Oh, and the punch line...my hairdresser has curly hair which she obviously doesn't know how to style and frequently blows straight!

Okay, sorry, done ranting now. I just knew you guys would understand.
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I think it's because it's been fashionable to blow hair out straight so they don't teach them enough to know how to do anything but straight hair.

Or maybe she was going for that 80's retro look?

I hope it looks good after it's dry!
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I know, you think they'd get it after all this time. Let us know if the cut is ok once it's dry.

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Funny cuz i only let my hair dresser style my hair straight cuz she does a great job doing that BUT since hearing some horror stories on some curlies gettin a not so good results with styling curly hair in a salon , i always go home to style my hair and use my styling products if i wanna go curly that day, and if that means i leave the salon with a wet head i will . lol.. my stylist has actually seen my hair curly 2 and loves it.
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Thanks guys, I knew you'd understand. My hair's dry and it looks nice so I don't feel quite as annoyed now. Still, you'd think if you were a hairdresser and had curly hair yourself you'd figure out how to work with it. Oh well.

I love your idea KristaRose! I'm not sure I have the nerve, but maybe if she saw how I style it she'd start to get it.

Anyway, the cut is good so all is well in the world .
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As Lorraine Massey talked about in her book, she stated that she has yet to attend a seminar in America that addresses curly hair, and that traditional American cosmetology education does not cover curly hair. This leads me to believe that perhaps the education is geared more toward uniform types of wavy or straight hair, and more attention is paid not to the texture of hair, but the volume. I know when I go to a new hairdresser, invariably they comment on how much hair is on my head.
I think a lot of hairdressers are intimidated by curly hair because they just don't know what to do with it. As Lorraine believes, where there is a wave is a curl. I think in America the belief is opposite-where there is a curl, there should be straight hair.
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As Lorraine Massey talked about in her book, she stated that she has yet to attend a seminar in America that addresses curly hair, and that traditional American cosmetology education does not cover curly hair. This leads me to believe that perhaps the education is geared more toward uniform types of wavy or straight hair, and more attention is paid not to the texture of hair, but the volume. I know when I go to a new hairdresser, invariably they comment on how much hair is on my head.
I think a lot of hairdressers are intimidated by curly hair because they just don't know what to do with it. As Lorraine believes, where there is a wave is a curl. I think in America the belief is opposite-where there is a curl, there should be straight hair.
Originally Posted by 2bforme
Does that even exist??!!
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As Lorraine Massey talked about in her book, she stated that she has yet to attend a seminar in America that addresses curly hair, and that traditional American cosmetology education does not cover curly hair. This leads me to believe that perhaps the education is geared more toward uniform types of wavy or straight hair, and more attention is paid not to the texture of hair, but the volume. I know when I go to a new hairdresser, invariably they comment on how much hair is on my head.
I think a lot of hairdressers are intimidated by curly hair because they just don't know what to do with it. As Lorraine believes, where there is a wave is a curl. I think in America the belief is opposite-where there is a curl, there should be straight hair.
Originally Posted by 2bforme
I think that they know that naturally curly hair is seldom evenly curly hair and they are afraid of it. It takes some effort to make it look good, and the next head full of curly hair they will see is going to be totally different from the last. There are some simple guidelilnes to follow for sure, but not everything that works for one curly will work for every curly. I think being proactive and just telling them how you do your hair at home - i.e. what you have found works best for YOUR hair is perfectly acceptable. After all who knows more about your hair (and has tried more products/methods) that you?
If you focus on the negative not only is that what you'll see, that's what you'll be.
Sorry to hear she couldn't style your hair curlydoc! my hairdresser knows not to style mine at all. Once she's finished cutting she'l say "do you want to take over from here?" and I usually leave the salon with half-wet hair so I can't really see thes tyle till I get home. But even if I try cold blowdry it pixie method, because she's been finecombing it continuously whilst cutting it always looks really weird.

Once or twice I have said "yeh go for it!" if they ask to style, just to see what it can come out like, and hoping and praying it might look good. Usually I'll leave the salon with my hair in an ponytail if that happens I hope the stylists aren't offended but they see what my hair looks like when I walk into the salon - and how it clumps and ringlets. Then they see how it looks when they're finished with it - frizzy, undefined, and just bleuch, so they must know that I know my own hair best!

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Because even now, schools don't teach stylists how to cut, handle, or style curly hair. In order for them to have any experience with it, they would have to attend seperate workshops and classes. Unfortunately some stylists don't view their career as an "art" but rather just a job, and continue doing what they've been taught, without learning and experiencing more.


Also take into consideration that many people have HAD this curly hair for 15, 20, 40 years, and we're only NOW figuring out how to work with it - how would you expect someone w/ no experience with it to know what they're doing?
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Funny cuz i only let my hair dresser style my hair straight cuz she does a great job doing that BUT since hearing some horror stories on some curlies gettin a not so good results with styling curly hair in a salon , i always go home to style my hair and use my styling products if i wanna go curly that day, and if that means i leave the salon with a wet head i will . lol.. my stylist has actually seen my hair curly 2 and loves it.
Originally Posted by tinicurlyd
I do the same thing...I am inept at getting my hair straight so when I go for my cut I let my stylist do it - it's nice for a change and the one time I let her do it curly - it looked horrid. She tried the twist every other section routine and then diffused but my top was flat - not good!
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As Lorraine Massey talked about in her book, she stated that she has yet to attend a seminar in America that addresses curly hair, and that traditional American cosmetology education does not cover curly hair. This leads me to believe that perhaps the education is geared more toward uniform types of wavy or straight hair, and more attention is paid not to the texture of hair, but the volume. I know when I go to a new hairdresser, invariably they comment on how much hair is on my head.
I think a lot of hairdressers are intimidated by curly hair because they just don't know what to do with it. As Lorraine believes, where there is a wave is a curl. I think in America the belief is opposite-where there is a curl, there should be straight hair.
Originally Posted by 2bforme
Does that even exist??!!
Originally Posted by wild_sasparilla
Sure. Some people have waves in their hair that will lay very uniformly and sometimes won't do anything but. When I attempt to blow out my hair, it makes this one big wave in the back that drives me insane, and has driven numerous hairdressers to the brink of despair. Hence my opinion, based upon having wavy/curly hair my whole life that hairdressers don't like it, don't want to deal with it, and even if they did, wouldn't know how. There are exceptions, of course.
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I"ve always had that problem til now -- I have a devachan trained stylist and she knows how to style curly hair. When I leave the salon, I can actually go someplace without putting a hat on!
My last stylist had curly hair also and her hair looked terrible. She obviously had no idea what to do with it.
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this is one reason i love having my hair dresser cut my hair at home. she does good cuts but CANNOT style my hair. AT ALL. it ends up looking like a frizzy puffball. But at least i look like that in the comfort of my own home...no danger of running into anybody i know! :P
I just have my stylist put something in my hair (gel, styling creme, whatever) and I sit under a hair dryer. I don't pay for someone to style my hair anymore, because I was always having to go home, rewet it and do it over.

I think it's crazy that no one is taught how to style curly hair, except to blow it straight.
Thank God for scrunchies. I always leave with damp hair and put a scrunchie in it for the drive home.

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