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crazycurlyhead 04-14-2007 11:37 PM

I hate summer! :( hair rant
 
so yeah everybody loves summer, cool clothes, getting a tan, etc etc but it just sucks on hair (well at least my hair) I live in Florida and even though i was looking forward to the warm weather now i'm hating it!!! i've realized that no matter what products i use if i step outside and there's any humidity it just seems like all the product in my hair dissapears :( by the time it's dry it's just a sticky undefined mess, i was so happy because all the products i used were giving me great results in the cooler months but now i have to find a whole new batch of products that won't leave me with a puffy mess,
any recomendations on summer products that can stand humidity????
i need help :cry:

oh by the way i've been using LOOB, Re:coil, HE the yello/orange tub kind can't remember the name.
any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!!!

HalfWavyHalfCurly 04-15-2007 02:56 AM

I also live in S. FL and except for a week in January and maybe another in February as far as I'm concerned is too warm all the time but at least sometimes the humidity is lower. Anyway, I HATE having to put up with 7 or more months of heat and humidity, so I totally conmiserate with you!

As for products, unfortunately, it seems that I cannot get consistent results from year to year*. For instance, in 2004 the combo of FOTEAVG/honey kept the frizz away wonderfully but not so the next year so then I switched to Suave Frizz Control Gel (which has been reformulated since...), it was a little drying so last year I didn't use it as much. Last year was particularly trying so sometimes I even resorted to silicones.

*I think the key is what condition my hair is in, I color it and sometimes may have damaged it a little bit so I think it's important to keep the hair very well conditioned so the cuticle won't open up "seeking" the humidity in the air. Conditioners should be less rich than during the "winter" and if protein is not a problem heavier on it because it helps keep moisture in. Also, oils should be used very sparingly (or not at all for some) and additional sources of heat (i.e., straightening with a blow dryer/flat iron, curling irons, etc.) be avoided or seriously limited.

pitgirl 04-15-2007 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by HalfWavyHalfCurly
Also, oils should be used very sparingly (or not at all for some) and additional sources of heat (i.e., straightening with a blow dryer/flat iron, curling irons, etc.) be avoided or seriously limited.

HWHC why should we avoid oils???

HalfWavyHalfCurly 04-15-2007 06:01 AM

Well, first let me clarify that not everyone needs to avoid oils, like everything this is a very individual thing, also I suspect not all oils affect the hair equally. But I've observed through the years that for me and quite a few others it's during the dry/cool season that the hair thrives on all kinds of oils. Some people that start using them during the summer proclaim that their hair "hates" oils, which could be totally inaccurate because every year I see more and more people just love them during the fall and winter.

I'm not quite sure what the reason is but I know that as it gets warmer and more humid here I sadly have to stop using my favorite hair creams and oil moisturizers because they either overwhelm my hair, cause some hairs to separate from the curls or give me frizz. The only one that I've used consistently is jojoba oil, but just a couple of drops when scrunching out gel hardness.

My advice to anyone who's been loving the use of oil-rich products in recent months is to keep an eye on how the hair behaves as the weather gets warmer, if you notice any frizz or hair separation, cut back.

medusahair 04-15-2007 10:54 AM

crazy, I had to stop using my leave in for the warm weather. I still use most of my gels except my super light hold ones. Medium hold still works for me without the leave in. The leave in in the heat and humidity is overkill. It's 98% humidity today :shock:

kjwavy 04-15-2007 11:10 AM

The ONLY thing that works for me in the hot & humid weather is Curl Keeper. I don't normally have a really bad frizz problem, but I do in middle of summer here in TX :( I don't use a leave-in at all in the summer, either.

The trick of CK (again, for my freakish hair) is to comb it through after rinsing out my conditioner, then letting it soak into my hair for a few minutes. Then I apply my gel (by smoothing it over the CK, then scrunching). I can't use the CK any other time, because it makes my hair look limp, but it's my HG for the summer :D

CURLYCATHY 04-15-2007 12:26 PM

So refreshing to hear others hate summer as much as me because of humidity. Only other curlies can really know the trauma. I usually have luck with BRHG, also Ouidad Climate Control. Those are absolutely the only 2 gels I have found strong enough for my difficult hair. Hope this helps.

curlyniner 04-15-2007 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HalfWavyHalfCurly
I think it's important to keep the hair very well conditioned so the cuticle won't open up "seeking" the humidity in the air. Conditioners should be less rich than during the "winter" and if protein is not a problem heavier on it because it helps keep moisture in.

I'm confused (which lately, since trying to wrap my head around this whole CG thing, is not that uncommon :wink: ) - if I want to keep my hair from getting frizzy in humidity, then why wouldn't I want to use a richer (or just as rich) conditioner in the summer?

jennyfurrens 04-15-2007 01:07 PM

In regards to oils - does this apply to conditioners with oils in too, like Jessicurl Aloeba?

I just used it today as a leave-in and I noticed my hair was a bit frizzier but not in a dry way, just hairs seperating off as you said. Wonder if this is the problem...

So what conditioner am I going to use for summer now :roll:

Kaia 04-15-2007 02:01 PM

Hmmm, I guess I'm the weird one. :lol: I live in humid FL, and I LOOOOOVE summer hair! My winter hair is so flat and loses most of its curl. In the summer, I get some frizz, but my hair is so much curlier that I don't think the frizz detracts too much from it. I'd rather deal with a bit of frizz than crappy hair all around.

medusahair 04-15-2007 03:33 PM

OH yeah I agree Bailey I love summer! My hair doesn't need as much pampering in the summer nor nearly as many products. The humidity takes care of it all. My hair is curlier by far in the summer

kjwavy 04-15-2007 04:13 PM

I personally hate summer (can't stand the heat), but my hair LOVES it :) It does get much curlier, & the combo of CK & BRHG is definitely my summer HG! Nothing else I've tried even comes close to controlling it :)

Curly Girl Fla 04-15-2007 04:43 PM

I posted this same exact rant in the 3a forum. Sometimes Florida just bites. The PJ in me took over, and I'd find things that worked for a day or so, but the humidity was killing me. The past few days I went back to Jessicurl only, and, oils or not, my hair is so much improved. I'll keep experimenting, but I'll always make sure I have Jessicurl stuff on hand at this point.

crazycurlyhead 04-16-2007 11:16 AM

kjwavy, doesn't CK give you "wet-hair" look, i used it last summer and i didn't like it for that reason, i still have some left so i think that i'm going to have to try it.

so we've come to the conclusion that for the summer we need more mouisture but with a ligther conditioner? which ones do you guys love?

it also seems like getting rid of leave-in works for a lot of people, so what other products are you pairing with you gels?

my pj wants to get out of control ladies, give me some recomendations :twisted:

does anybody diffusse? or is airdrying better in the summer months, it seems like humidity drinks up all my products

thank you for all your responses, keep 'em coming :lol:

bostonwaves 04-16-2007 11:30 AM

I love Jessicurl products in the summer.

Because of the humidity I get more curls so I can put away the Re:coil and leave-ins and just use Jessis aloba and RR and CCSS.

kjwavy 04-16-2007 11:33 AM

cch - if I use too much CK, I get a somewhat "wet" look, but I probably use only a nickel sized blob over the top, bend over, & then another nickel sized blob on the under side of my hair, then I comb it all through. I top it all off with some Biosilk Rock Hard Gel, which has a tendency to look kind of wet (it actually just makes my hair look shiny), so it doesn't bother me.

This is why I can only use it in the very hot & humid weather - it just makes my hair look greasy & lank otherwise! Definitely give it another chance, try varying how much you're using, & comb it through if at all possible. I found that combing it through & letting it "set & soak in" for about 5 minutes before adding my gel really did make a difference!

medusahair 04-16-2007 11:46 AM

Is it dry in the summer where ya'll are that need more moisture?
I use less conditioner in the summer. I get most of my moisture from the air. It's humid here generally from spring until mid fall.
I use a good rinse out year round but in the summer my hair looks best with no leave in. My hair isn't dry though and I have soft water so that might help and like I said it's real humid here.

Guide18 04-16-2007 12:56 PM

Crazycurlyhead, the products you are using are ones I like in winter but put away in summer. They don't have enough hold for the humidity. Last year I found that HE Set Me Up (in the aqua tube) did an amazing job of keeping my hair looking nice in the summer weather. Granted, it's not as humid here as in FL, but it does get pretty steamy!

Oregano (formerly babywavy) 04-17-2007 07:15 AM

Okay, being that it's mid April and it just SNOWED here the other day, I can't stand to hear someone say they hate summer! It has been dark, gray, rainy, and cold for a week - so I would change climates with you in a SECOND!!

But just as a suggestion, my mom lives in Orlando, and she swears by Curlkeeper. She says that she hasn't used anything else that has worked so well, and no matter what she gets consistent results with it.

Good luck!!

Curly Girl Fla 04-17-2007 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by babywavy
Okay, being that it's mid April and it just SNOWED here the other day, I can't stand to hear someone say they hate summer! It has been dark, gray, rainy, and cold for a week - so I would change climates with you in a SECOND!!

But just as a suggestion, my mom lives in Orlando, and she swears by Curlkeeper. She says that she hasn't used anything else that has worked so well, and no matter what she gets consistent results with it.

Good luck!!

The weather is crazy all around lately. I'm near Orlando, too, and, wouldn't you know, 2 humidity-free days in a row! But I tried CK a couple of years ago-my hair HATED it. Stringy, flat, producty-and I experimented w/amounts-using very little at one point. I thought that would be just what I needed...so disappointing :( . I'm having much better luck with RR & CC.


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