Update on WO wash - Cleaning scalp without cleansers...?!

So I'm doing this whole Water-Only wash as an experiment. I'm spending 90% of my time chained to my desk for final exam revision so i'm not too bothered about how my hair looks!

My hair is fine, hardly any grease, more just natural sebum so it doesn't look bad at all. I've had so much more volume it's great!

But I have noticed my scalp has lots of little white dots coming off it - almost like the dryness I get if I use a harsh sulfate. I hardly ever get a flaky scalp, and it's not big or noticeable. It doesnt even come off until i kinda scratch it, then it does (yes i have been examining my scalp in the mirror a bit )

I've read that teatree oil is good for this sort of thing and I'd be happy to try that as a way of getting rid of whatever's on my scalp without using sulfates or any cleansers. But how would I use it? Would I dilute a few drops in hot water, dip my fingers in the water, then scrub my scalp like that? I know tea tree is drying so I dont want to get it all over my hair...

I dont think it's product buildup as I've been careful not to get any product near my scalp. It's more like flaky scalp maybe due to me not scrubbing hard enough. I'm also coming up to my period, and a few hairdressers have told me your scalp can get oilier and flakier and itchier around that time. I'm happy to persevere for another week and see how it goes.

Any suggestions on scalp cleaning without really cleaning the natural sebum off?

cleanse: OS shampoo. PureNuffStuff cleanser.
condition: Aussie 3MM. Jessicurl Aloeba.
style: B2Basics GreenTeaGel. T&G Curl Balm. JCarter Nourish&Shine.


pw: curlywurly
Hi Jenny,

I hear you about finals! I am also chained to my desk.... But they'll be over soon!
Anyway, I've been washing my hair once a week with a shampoo bar, but every day I water-wash, so I've figured out a few things. Here's what I do:

Get in the shower, run water through my hair, then do scalp massage.
After washing the rest of me, I get out, fill up the sink with warm water, add a drop or two of any essential oil (lemon or lavendar are very nice), dip my head in and do another scalp massage. Then empty sink, refill with warm or cool water, and do a final rinse.

I find this helps keep my hair and scalp smelling and looking nice.
HTH, and good luck studying!
Have finally figured out I am a 3A! VERY fine strands. CG since 7/05!
Thanks mm, that's awesome to know! I can imagine lemon oil would smell gorgeous too! And citris is great for my curls.

It's interesting that you dunk in the sink to rinse off the oil, rather than rinse off in the shower. Do you find you have any residue of oil left in your hair after, or does dunking get it all out? I might try this, but maybe rinse out the first time rather than dunk in the sink...

So do you not use conditioner at all for the whole week that you just water wash? Sorry to be slow about your routine here, but I am really interested! Do you just water wash, massage, clean body, dunk in oil, then rinse - so oil is the only thing on your hair for the week? Just your name says moisture maniac so i'm wondering where you get the moisture from

Good luck with your finals too! I've had one so a bit calmer about the actual exam process, but it was the easiest. the worst is still to come!

cleanse: OS shampoo. PureNuffStuff cleanser.
condition: Aussie 3MM. Jessicurl Aloeba.
style: B2Basics GreenTeaGel. T&G Curl Balm. JCarter Nourish&Shine.


pw: curlywurly
Hi Jenny,

No problem, I'm happy to share my whole routine with you! I might look complicated typing it out, but is actually very simple, so here goes....

Every saturday night, I slather my hair in olive oil and then sleep on it.
Sunday morning, I wash it out ( it takes two lathers) with a shampoo bar from chagrin valley. This is the only day of the week I cleanse my scalp with a real cleanser. Then I do a dilute ACV rinse in the sink, then empty sink and refill with cool water, rinse hair in that. Towel dry hair, then add a TEENSY dab of olive oil (coconut and jojoba work well, too, but i prefer olive) on the length to moisturize. After all, you're right, I am the moisturemaniac!

Every day after that, I take a shower and do a water wash. I scrub my scalp very well in the shower. Then, once I get out of the shower, I fill up the sink, add a little essential oil, and then scrub my scalp again, then empty the sink and refil it with cool water and rinse my hair again. Then I add the teeny dab of olive oil after towel drying.

That's it! I never use conditioner any more, which is a huge deal for me, as I was so strict CG at once point I made my own conditioners so that they didn't have any bad stuff in them! I stopped using co because I felt that it was just coating, not moisturizing, my hair. For me, oils work better. My hair felt a bit weird after using no co at first (not as silky when wet), but it gets VERY silky when dry.

If you do decided to give this method a chance, good luck! I love it so far and have been doing it for about 6 mos, with continuous good hair (crosses fingers)
Sorry for the long post...
Have finally figured out I am a 3A! VERY fine strands. CG since 7/05!
Wow that routine sounds so simple and it's awesome that it works for your hair! Hardly any product at all, you must be loving it!

I don't know how i'd feel about no conditioner and no product! I've tried oils on my hair before but it just weighs it down and makes it greasy. I'll try the water only wash at first and then see what else I can add as I go, don't wanna do too much at first or I wont know what's working!

I like the idea of lavender oil in the sink tho, thanks for that tip

cleanse: OS shampoo. PureNuffStuff cleanser.
condition: Aussie 3MM. Jessicurl Aloeba.
style: B2Basics GreenTeaGel. T&G Curl Balm. JCarter Nourish&Shine.


pw: curlywurly
no problem, Jenny, I hope the water wash works for you!
and good luck on the finals
Have finally figured out I am a 3A! VERY fine strands. CG since 7/05!
Wow this is great info, thanks for posting, so you don't use any stylers at all? The EO is a great idea, how did you come to this conclusion? Do you have any pictures to post of your product free hair? I would love to see it. Thanks
Hi heavengirl,

do you mean, me or Jenny? If you mean me, I'm going to try to post some pics in may.
Have finally figured out I am a 3A! VERY fine strands. CG since 7/05!
Just a wee update on my water only thing.

It's not been long I know, only 5 days. But y'day when I washed my hair with just water again then conditioned etc. my hair looked pretty crap when it'd dried. No longer nicely voluminised by sebum, it looked lank and the colour was a meh brown cos of the sebum hiding the blonde and it just looked a bit poo.

But today I woke up and the sebum has gone. Well I say 'gone' obviouslly it didn't pack up and leave, but I can't see it and hardly feel it in my hair or scalp at all. No flakes, nothing. Note that I did nothing to my hair inbetween y'day and this morning. No refresher products, no water wash again. It just suddenly 'sorted itself out'! I'm not saying that's me sorted from now on, I'm expecting itmight get worse again. But does that normally happen - where did the sebum go?!

And I wonder if the water at first makes it seem greasier, as when I scrub my scalp in the shower for 5 mins or so it progressively feels greasier and heavier...

I do have some phyto shampoo samples to try out from a lovely curly that I really wanna try! should i or shouldnt i?!

cleanse: OS shampoo. PureNuffStuff cleanser.
condition: Aussie 3MM. Jessicurl Aloeba.
style: B2Basics GreenTeaGel. T&G Curl Balm. JCarter Nourish&Shine.


pw: curlywurly
I don't know if you read the water wash experiments on the LHC forum, but I think they did a few things differently. For one, when they water washed they aggressively scrubbed their scalp under the water of the shower. It isn't going to wash all the sebum away, but it is going to distribute it down the hair shaft. Second, I don't think they were using conditioner. If we can use conditioners to remove sebum and dirt from our scalps in co washing, then coating your hair w/ it as a conditioner is going to remove it from the length of your hair.

From what I had read, they would brush their hair before they got into the shower to distribute the sebum down, and they would water wash, while scrubbing, as I said, and that's it. Any other washing/conditioning, or anything like that is going to remove all that sebum you've been working at building up.
~ the artist formerly known as babywavy ~

Please excuse any typos. For the time being, we are blaming it on my computer.
See I was wondering about that I did have a look on the LHC forum but to be honest I got really confused at the layout and couldn't find the exact threads I was looking for. I picked up a few tips but not the actual method of doing it.

I've pretty much decided that I dont think I can go water only the whole way, but I don't like using shampoos or cleansers, and cowashing overconditions me, so i'll do water washes with maybe one mild cleansing wash once a week, and use conditoner as normal. The extra sebum just on my scalp helps with volume and makes my curl curl closer to the top.

Thanks for the info babywavy. I was wondering about conditioner and was thinking I shouldn't be using conditioner if I wanted to go WO 100% but dont think I'm ready to wean myself off conditioner yet. Not with a new bottle of Jessicurl that arrived in the post today anywa

This has been an interesting experiment nontheless. At lesat I've realised I can tolerate just water washing for 5 days, alongside condish.

cleanse: OS shampoo. PureNuffStuff cleanser.
condition: Aussie 3MM. Jessicurl Aloeba.
style: B2Basics GreenTeaGel. T&G Curl Balm. JCarter Nourish&Shine.


pw: curlywurly
I think the one I read the girl went like 2 months. For the first couple of weeks she got great results, and thought her hair was really benefitting from the sebum treatment. After a while though, she started to get really limp and greasy hair, and by the end of the experiment, she about couldn't take it anymore.

Here's some LHC info on it:

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...ad.php?t=50999

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...ad.php?t=52056
~ the artist formerly known as babywavy ~

Please excuse any typos. For the time being, we are blaming it on my computer.

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