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Old 04-17-2007, 09:43 AM   #1
 
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Default PLEASE help me find a moisturizing protein free shampoo!

i am trying to find a moisturizing protein free shampoo for my long, dry, fine hair,but to no avail. proteins dry out my hair and make it straw-like-even the slightest amount of protein will do this.

i perused the ingredients of all the curlmart shampoos and there arent many that fit this description. *is it really that hard to find a moisturizing protein free shampoo? i CO most days and shampoo about twice a week.

the drugstore ones that i find without proteins, have a nasty cone in it. (like the cyclo cone) i have bought a lot of shampoos in the past month or so and have wasted a lot of money. boo hoo.

i never tried the devacurl low poo -maybe i will try this next.

some of the ones i tried, but didnt work-they all dried out my hairsome have proteins)
pureology -hydrate and nanoworks
elucence
aveda
bumble & bumble gentle (gentle? i dont think so)
tigi oatmeal and honey
curljunkie
jessicurl cleansing cream (eventually dried out my hair -could have been the oat flour?) and gentle lather
devacare no poo -did not dry out my hair, but shrunk it up and frizzed out my hair
cream of nature
the list goes on and on.

if someone finds me a shampoo that wont dry out my hair -i will be ecstatic!
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Old 04-17-2007, 09:04 PM   #2
 
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HA! Good Luck! YES it can be that hard to find a truely protein free shampoo. It's a total PITA. Here's a list, although I would guess that there are others out there too. I can't speak for how moisturizing they are since that is so individual. I can say that the Deva stuff and the Steiner did/do well enough usually for my dry, thick hair.

From CurlMart

DevaCare OneC
DevaCurl OneC
Long Lovely Locks Green Tea Hair Gloss
Mia Simone's Boutique Coils Waves & Curls Sunflower Hemp Conditioning Lotion
MYHoneyChild HoneyNutt Conditioner
Ojon Shine & Protect Conditioner
Ojon Ultra Hydrating Conditioner - this one caught my eye. I thought it had glycerin which I avoid, but it doesn't seem to and it looks cg safe too.

Elsewhere online:
Steiner Thirst Quencher moisturizing conditioner


Health Food Store Options:
Nature's Gate Hemp Nourishin Condtioner

Drug Store:
Garnier Fructis fortifying cream conditioner
Probably some other GF stuf too.

Cheapie lines like Suave, White Rain, VO5 also have some protein free stuff. You have to read the labels and avoid anything that says "hydrolized" "protein" and often "amino acids" for the sensitve. They are not moisturzing enough for some, they work well for others.

I think that most of the above are cg safe as I can't remember if you cg or not.

The swapboard can offer cheaper ways to try out some of the above. You can always ask fro sample sizes there too; perhaps someone will help you out.

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Oh, crap, I just saw that you said shampoo! SORRY! I don't use shampoo, so I'm not as familiar with that end of things. At least you have a conditioner list though...
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I would say the LowPoo is worth a shot. It's pretty gentle IMO no problem with it drying out my hair. I'm dry & coarse but I only use it every 7 weeks when coloring.

You might want to check in the thread about the B&A method that's pretty active. Sounds weird but since it's a shampoo twice method, someone might have a gentle one they use everyday.
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thanks for your suggestions redceltic. even though i am looking for shampoos, i am always open to trying new conditioners without protein.

thanks tinab. i just bought the devacare low poo and used it last night. it is way less drying than a regular shampoo. i will have to figure out how often i can use it. years ago i could use regular shampoos with no problems of drying. i am not sure whether the sulfates/ingredients are harsher now, or if my hair changed.

i will have to search for the B & A method -i dont think i read about this one yet. hopefully i can find it
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barkley - just in case you can't find it, I linked it for you here:

http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlta...c.php?t=102462
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thanks for your suggestions redceltic. even though i am looking for shampoos, i am always open to trying new conditioners without protein.

thanks tinab. i just bought the devacare low poo and used it last night. it is way less drying than a regular shampoo. i will have to figure out how often i can use it. years ago i could use regular shampoos with no problems of drying. i am not sure whether the sulfates/ingredients are harsher now, or if my hair changed.

i will have to search for the B & A method -i dont think i read about this one yet. hopefully i can find it
That's what I get for not reading properly.

Sadly, the Ojon ultra-hydrating does have proteins. They're not listed on curlamrt, but they are listed on Ojon's site. Good thing I didn't buy it!
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yeah-before i realized my hair hated proteins, i tried the ojon hydrating shampoo and conditioner. my hair was greasy, but dry at the same time. plus it made it all frizzy. blech
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Old 04-18-2007, 01:04 PM   #8
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I would suggest Low-Poo. It's extremely gentle. About the only time I use shampoo is after I get highlights in the salon, and this is the only one that doesn't leave my hair frazzled out for a couple of weeks.
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I love mop (modern organic products) c-system hydrating shampoo. No protein (I'm pretty sensitive) and I'm assuming you're looking for sulfate free, too. This stuff is gentle, (even more than Low-poo for me) but gets my hair clean, and leaves it soft and frizz free, I only need to use a bit of conditioner (mop c-system moisture complex, also protein-free) and then I don't rinse it all out.
I think I got Chelle hooked in this a while back with a sample. Don't know if she's still using this.

I use mop c-system clean shampoo on my boys' hair, because they get dirtier and it's cheaper, and also unscented. I checked and it too is protein-free. Oh, mop hydrating smells like mint and oranges, really nice.

Ulta carries mop products, and they're online too.
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wavymecurly, thank you so much for the rec. i never tried mop c-system hydrating, but i have read about it. i am willing to try it since it has no proteins (YIPPEE!) or sulfates. i love the smell of oranges, and mint -so this will be an added bonus. i perused the ingredients on some mop product bottles at BBW just last week, but they didnt have the c-system hydrating. the other mop poos/dishes i saw from them had proteins.

i bought the devacare low poo-and it is way less harsh than any shampoo i have tried so far, but it still left my hair squeaky. my hair is so dry and rarely gets greasy-so i need to keep all the oils my dry scalp can produce.
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barkley- I saw some MOP-c on up on the swap board, just thought I'd let you know.
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barkley, hope it does help! On the swapboard I see only the clean shampoo (which I think compares closer to the Low poo - you want the "hydrating shampoo") and the conditioners. Don't get the hydrating Condish - it has protein, I think - only the moisture complex condish is protein-free, for sure.
I wish they made these names less complicated!
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mop is cheap here (I like the domain name):
http://www.frizzy2silky.com/shop/csy...b14f88ecabe8f5
and it says "For first time customer, please also use the discount coupon "f2s" to save Extra $2!" Is this too good to be true? Buying a "salon brand" from not a salon?


bathandbodyworks.com sells mop, and they list the ingredients; do they sell it in their stores, too?
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thanks for your help ladies! (i will keep the cheap site in mind.)

wavymecurly, i just found mop c-system hydrating shampoo at a BBW flagship store near me-i dont think they have it at the regular BBW.

i will try the shampoo tomorrow. if it doesnt work on my picky hair, i will continue the search!
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i can't b'leve that nanoworks dried ur hair out, that too me is the best by far.....but different strokes i guess, but you can try "ENJOY LUXURY SHAMPOO AND COND" or "ENJOY HYDRATING SHAMPOO AND COND"
they're both sulfate free and protein free, and right now is the hottest line on the market........i use the shaping lotion for soft defined curls

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i can't b'leve that nanoworks dried ur hair out, that too me is the best by far.....but different strokes i guess, but you can try "ENJOY LUXURY SHAMPOO AND COND" or "ENJOY HYDRATING SHAMPOO AND COND"
they're both sulfate free and protein free, and right now is the hottest line on the market........i use the shaping lotion for soft defined curls

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The nanoworks has protein, so those who are sensitive to it might feel dry from it.

The Enjoy looks interesting, but I couldn't find an indredient list online for the shampoo and conditioner. i know that their hydrating line has proteins, so it would be nice if this line were protein free. Their website says that you have to be a haridresser to ask a question, so I can't ask them.
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wavymecurly, thank you so much for the rec. i never tried mop c-system hydrating, but i have read about it. i am willing to try it since it has no proteins (YIPPEE!) or sulfates. i love the smell of oranges, and mint -so this will be an added bonus. i perused the ingredients on some mop product bottles at BBW just last week, but they didnt have the c-system hydrating. the other mop poos/dishes i saw from them had proteins.

i bought the devacare low poo-and it is way less harsh than any shampoo i have tried so far, but it still left my hair squeaky. my hair is so dry and rarely gets greasy-so i need to keep all the oils my dry scalp can produce.
If your hair is that dry, I have to ask why you are using shampoo at all??
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well i tried the mop c-system hydrating shampoo this morning and it wasnt drying at all-keep in mind this is an extraordinary outcome for my naughty hair that hates shampoo. it was slightly less harsh than the devacare low poo-which is my favorite thus far. i started Co washing bc my hair and scalp are so dry-since i started, most shampoos turn my hair into straw. thank you so much wavy me curly! i saw it on "the list" of shampoos, but i never went out of my way to find it. hugs to you!

suzen,my fine hair never gets oily, but it shrinks up and gets very straggly and frizzy if i dont wash it. also, i use leave ins & aloe in my hair which, on occasion, just need to be washed out. i love VO5 kiwi lime for CO, but i cant use it too often bc it dries out my hair a bit (iirc, it contains hydrolyzed collegen. sp?) i dont shampoo often -about twice a week. ideally i would like to shampoo even less. right now i am just trying to figure out the right products/routine for my long, fine, lightened blonde hair. which is a daunting task...

yes, i read about enjoy -but i cant find the ingredients online either? i wont buy if i dont know the ingredients. i bought nanoworks before i realized my hair is protein sensitive.

this whole protein sensitive thing is a mystery to me -some ppl's hair loves it. what is different in our hair structure that causes this? i hope this is common knowledge for us someday...
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Proteins are generally beneficial to hair that has been damaged by heat styling, coloring, relaxing, etc. They "fill in" the rough, porous areas of the hair and give it a smoother look and feel. But for healthier hair, the protein tends to sit on the outside of the hair shaft and actually makes it feel rough and straw-like. People's sensitivity varies a lot. My hair doesn't mind protein in a conditioner, but a protein-heavy styler is a problem, and I can't use one more than one or two days in a row. Generally, shampooing removes protein buildup and people who shampoo are less likely to have protein problems.
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suzen,i have heard this about proteins before. i guess my hair is an aberration.

something interesting to think about.... about once a month i lighten the front of my hair to blonde, and leave my back brown (it blends in). i only color the back about once a year, so it is quite healthy. the front of my hair, on the other hand, is lightened every month-so it is porous and isnt as healthy. products effect the front of my hair the same way as the back. when i use proteins (in any product-shampoos/conditioners/leave ins), my hair turns to straw. granted some products i have tried were more drying than others. i have yet to figure out which proteins my hair hates most, but i'd rather not chance it and experiment bc of the possible breakage. also interesting, i stopped lightening my hair to blonde for over a year, and it hated proteins then too.

my conclusion:i am extremely protein sensitive whether my hair is healthy or not.
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