Proteins - Clarify to get rid of?

If you think you might be sensitive to proteins do you need to use a shampoo with sulfates to 'start' over or do an ACV rinse? Thanks!!
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I'm a little curious about this too...
2A/2B, fine, normal porosity

Growing out a pixie as of November 2013

Shampoo: Elucence MBS & Renpure Originals Argan Oil
Conditioner: Elucence MBC & Renpure Originals Argan Oil
Leave-in: CJ BeautiCurls
Stylers: BA gel & AG Re:coil

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Sometimes if I get dry and frizzy, it's because I'm overconditioned. I usually can't co-wash for more than 3 days before I have to shampoo; then I use a sulfate-free or low poo. If it is proteins, I would think a low poo would take care of it but I'm definitely not an expert on proteins, so maybe someone else can chime in here.
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I used a no sulphate poo this morning and then used products with no proteins and I am still having issues. My hair will not stay curly anymore - it falls out very quickly and I am getting fuzzy - if that makes any sense. It's not dry feeling or looking - its all undefined - I just cannot figure it out. I keep trying stronger gels thinking that will work but to no avail. I will try the no proteins a bit longer to see if it is something you need to 'work' out of your system
Central Massachusetts

One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
I'm not 100% positive if using a clarifying poo would take care of the protein but I would think it would help to start over and then just stay away from protein. Something that I've found what helps more though is using moisturizing products that are protein-free until the dryness goes away.
But to me it sounds like you are overconditioned. Try water washing for a while or using a mild sulphate shampoo and see if that helps. Sometimes moisturizing sulphate-free poos make my overconditioned hair get worse!
I also forgot to say to try not using the Mop Top spray under your gel and see what happens. My hair was feeling dry over the weekend and I thought maybe it was too much product so I eliminated the spray and problem solved. Must have been too much of something in both the spray and the gel for me. Now I'm just using it for spot fix-ups, etc., and I'm not having the problem.

ETA: I don't think there's any protein in the Mop Top - just too much of something. Also, after just reading your latest post in the Product Reviews forum, it definitely sounds like overconditioning to me.
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I use baking soda spritz if I think I have build up. In Massey's book I believe it is called Whattacurl Wants. You mix 1 tbsp of baking soda with 1 cup of warm water and put it in a spray bottle. However, I use it a lil differently than the book explains. I wet my hair in the shower. Then I mist my hair with the Whattacurl Wants until it is saturated with it and I can feel it throughout my hair. I let it sit for a few minutes and then rinse it completely out. Then I apply my condish as I usually do(CG Book method for corkscrew and botticelli types).
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Thanks ladies!!

I will try washing with a mild sulfate shampoo tomorrow and use my Jessicurl cond. that has no proteins. and then try skipping the moptop spray as well.
Central Massachusetts

One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
It might not be proteins if your hair isn't feeling dry. Protein buildup usually makes hair feel very dry - like straw.

If it's fluffy but still soft, you might be overconditioned.

Either way, a low poo should help.

Edited for spelling.
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I agree with rcc. The one thing that I would watch out for is the Jessicurl conditioner. If your hair is overconditioned(which it sounds like it is) using a moisturizing conditioner isn't going to help with that. You might be able to skip the conditioner completely or else use a very light one.
I'm also going through this right now and for me I'm positive that it's that my hair is overconditoned. I know this because I haven't used products with protein in my hair for many months and because my hair always gets overconditioned when the weather gets warmer. Plus my hair is so redicuously soft and fluffy(and not dry at all) which is exactly what overconditioned hair feels like in my hair. When this happens it's a signal to me that I need to change my routine. I remember having to wash my hair much more often last summer with some sort of low-poo and I needed to use a much lighter conditioner too.
ITA with IWCH about the Jessicurl conditioner. I definitely can't use her conditioners when I'm going through this because it just adds too much moisture to already overconditioned hair. I have found I have to use a lighter conditioner in the summer as well.
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Thanks for posting this xcptnl because I've also been having trouble with poorly defined, fluffy curls lately and I wasn't sure if it was protein or overconditioning or humidity. Nothing I use gives me crunch or hold because my hair seems to be too soft. Sounds like I'm overconditioned too.
What lighter conditioners would you ladies recommend?
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Thanks for posting this xcptnl because I've also been having trouble with poorly defined, fluffy curls lately and I wasn't sure if it was protein or overconditioning or humidity. Nothing I use gives me crunch or hold because my hair seems to be too soft. Sounds like I'm overconditioned too.
What lighter conditioners would you ladies recommend?
3b/c fine, thick, porous, protein sensitive
Modified CG, CJ Rehab, JCWDT, KCKT, VO5 Chamomile Tea Therapy, CJDF, HEBE Gel/Mousse, Bioinfusion Rosemary Mint shampoo, occasional protein

Experimenting with BRHG

"If you want the rainbow, you've gotta put up with the rain"
I think BWC(Beauty Without Cruelty)revitalize leave-in is a really good choice for those that aren't protein sensitive and a little Aloeba as a leave-in/rinse out is a good choice for those that are. Those are just my recommendations(based on my own hair) though. Hopefully others will give their recommendations too. I'm not planning on using any conditioner at all on my hair though until this overconditioned feeling passes.
I liked Aloeba as a light conditioner. It has a minimal amount of oat protein, but you have to be very sensitive to notice it.

Some of the grugstore stuff like Suave or White Rain could work well too. They are often lighter than salon conditioners.
Kiva! Microfinance works.

Med/Coarse, porous curly.
Do you guys mean jessicurls aloeba daily conditioner? That is what I meant by jessicurl cond. If you didn't - quick let me know!!
Central Massachusetts

One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
Iwantcurlyhair, do you find that water washing is enough to get the tangles out of your hair? My problem is that my hair tangles VERY easily so I feel I always have to use some kind of conditioner when combing in the shower or else I end up tugging and pulling which causes damage. I might have to look into the JC one.
3b/c fine, thick, porous, protein sensitive
Modified CG, CJ Rehab, JCWDT, KCKT, VO5 Chamomile Tea Therapy, CJDF, HEBE Gel/Mousse, Bioinfusion Rosemary Mint shampoo, occasional protein

Experimenting with BRHG

"If you want the rainbow, you've gotta put up with the rain"
I think BWC(Beauty Without Cruelty)revitalize leave-in is a really good choice for those that aren't protein sensitive and a little Aloeba as a leave-in/rinse out is a good choice for those that are. Those are just my recommendations(based on my own hair) though. Hopefully others will give their recommendations too. I'm not planning on using any conditioner at all on my hair though until this overconditioned feeling passes.
Originally Posted by Iwantcurlyhair
I'm seriously considering doing the same.
2A/2B, fine, normal porosity

Growing out a pixie as of November 2013

Shampoo: Elucence MBS & Renpure Originals Argan Oil
Conditioner: Elucence MBC & Renpure Originals Argan Oil
Leave-in: CJ BeautiCurls
Stylers: BA gel & AG Re:coil

Product Junkie that keeps falling off the wagon!
Magoo- Typically, I would say no, I NEED to use conditioner to detangle my hair. But now, considering all conditioner will do is make the problem worse, I am just going to water wash and leave my hair alone until this passes. To protect the ends I'm just planning on using a little oil on the ends of my hair when it's wet. I'll probably just put it in a braid or something.

xcptnl- Yes I meant Jessicurl's Aloeba. I just wanted to make sure you weren't using Too Shea or WDCT. Those are two of the most moisturizing conditioners I've found and if you used those I'm positive your hair would get more overconditioned. Even though Aloeba is much lighter and I like to use it in the summer, like I said I'm personally not using even Aloeba now until the overconditioned feeling passes.
Thanks - I ended up using my VO5 Vita burst which is pretty light as well.
Central Massachusetts

One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~

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