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Old 06-03-2007, 07:44 PM   #1
 
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I checked the deva concepts web site and it a listed a deva stylist in Minneapolis. I have checked before and theres never been one listed. So, I made the appt. and went. She is new, just went to New York in April and was trained by Maria at Devachan. She did a fabulous job and I can only assume she will just get better. All the things that I have heard others talk about before (seaweed, squishes, etc) finally made sense. I will continue to go to Carolyn- even though it was over a 1 1/2 hour drive. Oh, fabulous price - $40.00!! If your in driving distance of Minneapolis, I can't recommend enough giving her a try.

First we talked. My wants, my problems, my products, techniques, etc. Then she cut all the individual curls around my head. Then had me flip my head over and cut the hidden individual curls underneath. She washed (CO) my hair - very gently. That was the first thing I found out I was doing wrong. I'm quite aggressive in my scalp scrubbing and she was slow, firm and yet gentle. She said my fast aggressiveness was just roughing up the cuticle more, and breaking up the clumps. Then she rinsed and added more condish and squished/scrunched it into my head - instead of 'smoothing' it in and combing. She worked it in and added more until it was slimy like seaweed (and had me feel it). She raked her fingers through slightly feeling for knots. She found a few underneath and added more condish and just worked it out - very little raking. She rinsed all the condish out and gently scrunched some of the excess water out. Then she had me gently flip over and she gently scrunched the water with a towel just to stop it from dripping. Back to her chair we went where she mixed condish and gel together and rubbed it into both hands and scrunched it into the bottom of my hair. Then did the same thing up higher on my head. She very slightly went over the canopy saying the top will take care of itself. She used a lot of product and scrunched it til it made the 'squish' noise. Again, she had me feel it. She said all my products were good (the same we all use here girls ), it was my technique that was fighting the clumping! She diffused to 80% dry. Put my hair in the diffuser cup and scrunched it to my scalp and held it there until that part was close to dry. I had the fattest frizz free curls I have ever had. She then snipped a few more curls and had me flip over again. I was good to go. It was 2:00 p.m.. I went shopping next - trying on shirts - probably 20 of them, all pulled over my head. Then I got rained on. Then it was humid. Then I was rained on again. Then I went to a bon fire and got home at midnight. Fat frizz free curls still!! Whoo hoo - life was good.

Now today, I tried myself. I did better than I ever have before, but not as good as her. I think if I can't achieve what she did, I will make another appt to go back just for her to style it again - no cut - just to refresh what/how she did things. I wish I would have written stuff down right away, and I wish I would have snapped a couple pictures. Oh well. The end result is that I now know it is possible for my hair to have fatter curls and no frizz, I've just got to learn to do it!
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Wow! Sounds awesome! Sounds like a great experience -- glad you had a great experience -- I can't wait to make my appt sometime.
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Old 06-03-2007, 08:10 PM   #3
 
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Wow, cool!

I am in Mpls and was thinking about getting my hair cut professionally. I usually cut it myself, but I can afford to spend $40. Last place I lived, in SF, if you wanted a decent cut, you had to drop about $65.

I'm going to check this out. Thanks for telling us!
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Old 06-03-2007, 10:15 PM   #4
 
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Thanks for the detailed description of your haircut experience. I am printing out your post and am going to try that at home. I'm still trying to figure out how to prepare my hair for air-drying.

Can I ask you, how long is your hair; how thick or thin is it; how curly is it....?? Thanks!
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So happy you had a great experience and found a wonderful stylist. Woohoo! Pics later?
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Old 06-03-2007, 10:49 PM   #6
 
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Yeah! Thanks so much for sharing this info with us, I always check that locator but had kinda given up on finding Minneapolis listed. Did she use Deva products on your hair? How about that neat devasun dryer? It would be great to try that thing out...

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Old 06-04-2007, 05:17 AM   #7
 
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That is Fantastic!!! Isnt it good to know your hair can do it?? That always makes me feel better just knowing it will do it I just need to perfect the technique.
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Old 06-04-2007, 10:37 AM   #8
 
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Can I ask you, how long is your hair; how thick or thin is it; how curly is it....?? Thanks!
Length - just below my shoulders - multi layered.
I have fine hair and med-thin, more to the thin side.
Curls range all the way from 2b to 3a with a corkscrew curl here and there. You wouldn't ever call me a wavy, I'm definately a curly.
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Hmmm sounds a bit like mine, although mine is not very layered and probably curls up a bit shorter. Similar texture though. I am definitely going to try this Minneapolis Method and post it here....
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Old 06-04-2007, 11:15 AM   #10
 
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I'm so excited that you posted this, 2happy! I'm in St. Paul and have yet to find a stylist who can cut my curly hair. Next time I need a cut i'm going to try Carolyn. $40 is not bad for a haircut. I've been paying way more for my haircuts and usually end up looking like a christmas tree or a poodle.
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Did she use Deva products on your hair? How about that neat devasun dryer? It would be great to try that thing out...

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Nope, no deva products. Just a normal salon dryer with a diffuser cup on the end. She didn't try to peddle any products at me or anything, it was great.

I was actually kicking myself when I left because I now know it can be achieved with what I have - I can no longer say "my hair just won't do that". I can openly admit to being all thumbs and may never achieve her 'technique' though....sadly......
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I'm so excited that you posted this, 2happy! I'm in St. Paul and have yet to find a stylist who can cut my curly hair. Next time I need a cut i'm going to try Carolyn. $40 is not bad for a haircut. I've been paying way more for my haircuts and usually end up looking like a christmas tree or a poodle.
I hear you on that!! I have made the drive to downtown twice before following recommendations I read on CurlSalons and the end result was I drove too far and spent too much money when I could have went to anyone around my own little town and got the same hair cut - hack job!

I've been here (nc.com) for almost 2 years reading the praises of the deva cut and how it's so different and better. I can happily agree now. I'm super glad I don't have to pay $200.00!!
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Hmmmm....I'd either have to leave at 4 am and return in the dark, or spend the night in the Twin Cities to get this treatment....but sometimes I fly over Minneapolis, maybe I could schedule it so I could get my hair done during wait time!

(OK, that's crazy talk)

I've always wondered if a deva trained stylist could actually make my hair look like something.

Did she mix half conditioner with half gel for the leave-in? Was it One C and AnGell/ArcAnGell? I like the One C as a rinse out, but I've never been able to get it to work for me as a leave-in. So it must be my technique. We need a YouTube video!

How cool that you had this wonderful experience, and that we finally have a deva stylist at least bordering Wisconsin! I hope she sticks around! Yay, you!
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Old 06-04-2007, 12:29 PM   #14
 
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Hmmmm....I'd either have to leave at 4 am and return in the dark, or spend the night in the Twin Cities to get this treatment....but sometimes I fly over Minneapolis, maybe I could schedule it so I could get my hair done during wait time!

(OK, that's crazy talk)

I've always wondered if a deva trained stylist could actually make my hair look like something.

Did she mix half conditioner with half gel for the leave-in? Was it One C and AnGell/ArcAnGell? I like the One C as a rinse out, but I've never been able to get it to work for me as a leave-in. So it must be my technique. We need a YouTube video!

How cool that you had this wonderful experience, and that we finally have a deva stylist at least bordering Wisconsin! I hope she sticks around! Yay, you!
You could make a weekend trip out of it (driving), or do a 1 night layover. if flying!! Well worth it.

I really should have looked at her amounts, but I didn't. I'm guessing equal amounts. No deva products, just salon condish and gel.

YouTube - funny, I had the exact same thought until she had me flip over to do my underneath. Then I was like THANK GOD this isn't on video!!! On the serious side, I should have my daughter video tape it just for guidance at home!! Maybe next time
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I just remembered something else. After she diffused to 80% dry, she said that was the time to scrunch out any crunch. She said after that (scrunching out the crunch), your hair should feel basically product free and soft, and it was! My daughter touched it several times after we left asking if she really put anything in it.

So, for one day I had big clumps of soft frizz free hair. I tried for second day hair today and ended up with producty frizzy skinny hair that I ended putting up But, on the bright side, I know it's possible and will keep trying.
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Hmmmm....I'd either have to leave at 4 am and return in the dark, or spend the night in the Twin Cities to get this treatment....but sometimes I fly over Minneapolis, maybe I could schedule it so I could get my hair done during wait time!

(OK, that's crazy talk)

I've always wondered if a deva trained stylist could actually make my hair look like something.

Did she mix half conditioner with half gel for the leave-in? Was it One C and AnGell/ArcAnGell? I like the One C as a rinse out, but I've never been able to get it to work for me as a leave-in. So it must be my technique. We need a YouTube video!

How cool that you had this wonderful experience, and that we finally have a deva stylist at least bordering Wisconsin! I hope she sticks around! Yay, you!
You could make a weekend trip out of it (driving), or do a 1 night layover. if flying!! Well worth it.

I really should have looked at her amounts, but I didn't. I'm guessing equal amounts. No deva products, just salon condish and gel.

YouTube - funny, I had the exact same thought until she had me flip over to do my underneath. Then I was like THANK GOD this isn't on video!!! On the serious side, I should have my daughter video tape it just for guidance at home!! Maybe next time
I think everyone at the salon where I had mine done thought my stylist had gone insane! She had me flip over as well to scrunch with paper towels and then she is on her knees scrunching like a crazy woman!
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I know exactly what you mean about "skinny" hair. I've been calling it my "80's reject" look. Products are a love-hate thing for fine hair! No product and I get frizz. Product = I get skinny 80s hair.

This thread has given me hope, however....hope that I can have soft curly hair.....
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Cool! 40 bucks is awesome! I'm visiting my parents near Minn. in Aug. for 3 weeks - I should book!!!!!!
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Cool! 40 bucks is awesome! I'm visiting my parents near Minn. in Aug. for 3 weeks - I should book!!!!!!
I wouldn't even hestitate! Make the appt. Now, remember Kim, it is YOUR picture that I took in with me for an example of 'nice' curls . I have such a hair crush on you!!

Oh, and Carolyn is fully aware of NC.COM. Maybe she's here........shoot, I should have asked.
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Thanks again for the heads up 2Happy! I'm so excited for you that you liked her and the results!!! I am definitely gonna check her out too. I can't believe there is one within minutes of me-truly surprising. Weren't you pleasantly surprised when you found out it was $40? That is what I pay for a "regular" haircut. So, I am curious, what products did she use on you?

Congrats on happy, happy hair!

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