Deva Clips

I have wavy hair that when cut well really bounces up and looks quite curly. I last had my hair cut and colored by somebody who went to a one day seminar by Lorraine M. The cut is okay - has been better and has been way worse too! I use KMS curling balm - I've tried many other products but this one seems to work best to boost the curl. I've been using the DC low poo shampoo (every other day) and conditioner every day. I got some Deva Clips today and can't figure out how to criss cross them at my roots. Any help/advice on this and any other advice on products etc would be welcome.
Sorry, I don't have advice to give you! I can't figure this out myself, even though I have seen some members post pictures of this. So, If anyone has an answer, I would love to hear it too!
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Ok lets see if I can explain this where it will be understandable.

You start by lifting the hair on the very top of your head ( the area where your part is if ya have one) straight up either using your fingers or a claw clip(example of claw clip below).

Fasten the lifted hair with a metal curl clip (example below) on an angle on one side and then secure another metal curl clip on the other side over lapping the first curl clip you have placed. The clips should look like a standing X on top of your head when you look straight at your self in the mirror. The clips should only be holding the part of the hair closest to the scalp and the hair shafts should be hanging out loosly like a fountain. Do not bunch all the hair in the X.

The X looking clips should be placed at the back, middle, and front of the top of your head. By the time you are done, the top layer of your hair should be lifted by three standing X's.

Just so you know, back when I first started the clipping method Deva used metal curl clips...they got plastic ones now so I am not sure if the clipping method is still the same. I won't know till I check out their DVD with the sampler pack I got.

Example of claw clip

http://www.scunci.com/product_detail...=8&pid=27&lp=3


Example of metal curl clips

http://www.amazon.com/Diane-Professi...1665598&sr=8-1

If worst comes to worst, you could try to just use three claw clips to hold the top layer a little. You won't get the same height but with them all you have to do is just clip them on the top of your head perpendicular to your part.

HTH
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Ok lets see if I can explain this where it will be understandable.

You start by lifting the hair on the very top of your head ( the area where your part is if ya have one) straight up either using your fingers or a claw clip(example of claw clip below).

Fasten the lifted hair with a metal curl clip (example below) on an angle on one side and then secure another metal curl clip on the other side over lapping the first curl clip you have placed. The clips should look like a standing X on top of your head when you look straight at your self in the mirror. The clips should only be holding the part of the hair closest to the scalp and the hair shafts should be hanging out loosly like a fountain. Do not bunch all the hair in the X.

The X looking clips should be placed at the back, middle, and front of the top of your head. By the time you are done, the top layer of your hair should be lifted by three standing X's.

Just so you know, back when I first started the clipping method Deva used metal curl clips...they got plastic ones now so I am not sure if the clipping method is still the same. I won't know till I check out their DVD with the sampler pack I got.

Example of claw clip

http://www.scunci.com/product_detail...=8&pid=27&lp=3


Example of metal curl clips

http://www.amazon.com/Diane-Professi...1665598&sr=8-1

If worst comes to worst, you could try to just use three claw clips to hold the top layer a little. You won't get the same height but with them all you have to do is just clip them on the top of your head perpendicular to your part.

HTH
Originally Posted by CurlyMom73
Hi, sorry to guano this thread but CurlyMom73 you have peaked my curiosity with your sig about now becoming a corkecilli. What were you before and how did you do it? I have hair that with the right routine could become corkicelli as well but I haven't quite found that perfect routine or products just yet.
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Thanks for the detailed description of what to do. I recently got the new Deva clips and they are plastic. The Curly Girl book shows photos of metal clips which look NOTHING like the current Deva clips. I think that the criss/cross method works with the old ones but not the new (which is kind of annoying as I bought them assuming they would do what the book says they should do). Anyway, I'll go ahead and buy the Diane clips which your link showed me.
Thanks a ton.
I, too, have a problem with the X clip technique. I grab the bit of hair and add the clips as I am supposed to, but somehow the clips are heavier than my fine hair and the X falls over. Then, I still have flat hair at the roots.

My other option of course is to dry my hair overnight going in every direction, and get way too much shrinkage!
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I have the new clips and can't imagine how they would criss cross like the old metal ones would. They are too thick and hard for that. I just use a single at the base of the curl and it seems to help...
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There are several photos floating around somewhere. I believe Spacegirl has some in her album and Banjocurl has some taken while at Devachan. I'm know there's others, as well.

I've tried criss-crossing, using like a clothes pin, bending, etc. I can't get them to stay perpendicular to my head. The clips always flip flat. I've been tempted to buy these new plastic deva clips. I was thinking since they seem chunkier, they might be stronger and easier to use. I just can't bring to spend $12 plus S&H for 12 clips. I'm such a tightwad.

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I have much better luck with the small jaw clips. I am inept at the flat style clips and end up fussing with my hair which is not good when it's trying to dry. I just grab what section I am trying to give more height too and put the clip in until mostly dry. I bought a package of 4 or 6 at a walgreens or cvs for probably $2-$3.

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Another jaw clip user here. I could never get the hang of the crossed metal ones.

My stylist showed me how she used the jaw clips to clip the hair along my part together while diffusing. It only takes me 2 clips but it makes a difference in keeping the top of my hair from being flat.

My big problem is that sometimes I forget to take them out and walk around looking like a doofus with clips in my hair...

My big problem is that sometimes I forget to take them out and walk around looking like a doofus with clips in my hair...
Originally Posted by SuZenGuide
OMG I've totally done this as well. I was so embarassed - I realized I had one still in my hair at about 1 pm :-)
Variation of 3B/3C curls.

Amazed that I finally found a method that works for my hair! Diffuse until 60-70% dry, then let air dry for about an hour. Scrunch and leave it alone!

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Check out Pixiegirl, she went to Deva and they didn't cross them. I have a picture in my fotki and I don't cross them either. I use them perpendicular to the my natural part if that makes sense and they stay up with no problem.
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Same here, they didn't cross them. They just lifted the root and pinned, so close to the root that they can't fall over. If you pin away from the root, even a little bit they seem to fall over. But as I mentioned in a different thread, I have a had a lot of success with taking a tress, turning and then pinning.
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Turning and pinning? Could you explain that please? I'm always looking for an easier way.
check out my fotki I have clips in from my haircut at devachan, its in the devachan haircut album
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i have the new plastic deva clips and i criss-cross them.

use the method described above; i have pics in my yahoo album of how i did it with the old metal ones, and it's the same procedure except for the following -

in order to cross these clips you have to clip the second clip over only one side of the first clip you put in. i basically have them with the pointy ends angled downward, and the second clip in back i just slide over the back part of the first clip i already put in front.

hope that makes sense and is of help to someone.

they really do work well and don't fall over or anything, if you can figure out how to make them work this way. though they do stay up pretty nicely on their own if you put them in right at the root (i just prefer the height i get from criss-crossing).

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modified cg







curlyinohio: I hope this makes sense- I literally take a chunk of hair by the root, and then turn it slightly- not doing a full twist, but just a turn (like from 12:00 to 3:00) and then pin the chunk very close to the root. I finish getting ready, watch a little tv, eat breakfast, etc. and right before I leave for work I unpin. My hair is no really fully dry by the time, but the roots are lifted and since I don't touch, they stay that way. Hope that was somewhat clear.
Good luck.
Indian girl with full head of very thick curls (3A, 3B and 3C)
CG Routine, protein sensitive

The longer I live the more beautiful life becomes.
-Frank Lloyd Wright
Ok lets see if I can explain this where it will be understandable.

You start by lifting the hair on the very top of your head ( the area where your part is if ya have one) straight up either using your fingers or a claw clip(example of claw clip below).

Fasten the lifted hair with a metal curl clip (example below) on an angle on one side and then secure another metal curl clip on the other side over lapping the first curl clip you have placed. The clips should look like a standing X on top of your head when you look straight at your self in the mirror. The clips should only be holding the part of the hair closest to the scalp and the hair shafts should be hanging out loosly like a fountain. Do not bunch all the hair in the X.

The X looking clips should be placed at the back, middle, and front of the top of your head. By the time you are done, the top layer of your hair should be lifted by three standing X's.

Just so you know, back when I first started the clipping method Deva used metal curl clips...they got plastic ones now so I am not sure if the clipping method is still the same. I won't know till I check out their DVD with the sampler pack I got.

Example of claw clip

http://www.scunci.com/product_detail...=8&pid=27&lp=3


Example of metal curl clips

http://www.amazon.com/Diane-Professi...1665598&sr=8-1

If worst comes to worst, you could try to just use three claw clips to hold the top layer a little. You won't get the same height but with them all you have to do is just clip them on the top of your head perpendicular to your part.

HTH
Originally Posted by CurlyMom73
Hi, sorry to guano this thread but CurlyMom73 you have peaked my curiosity with your sig about now becoming a corkecilli. What were you before and how did you do it? I have hair that with the right routine could become corkicelli as well but I haven't quite found that perfect routine or products just yet.
Originally Posted by JerseyCurl
JerseyCurl,

Oh my goodness. So sorry sweetie. I have been gone sooooo long that I missed your question, so I will answer it now. I hope you see it.

I found that lack of enough moisture can actually straighten out a curl. Unhealthy curls do not coil to there full potential. Once being on CG long enough, my hair began to curl tighter.

Once again, sorry it took so very long to answer this. I hope you can forgive me.
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