Tips from Denis DaSilva of Deva Concepts - the DevaFuser

I bought a Deva Sun Dryer with a DevaFuser a few weeks ago and just love it. It dries my hair much, much better than a regular diffuser and has been worth every penny of the price.

Someone on another thread said a lot of people are only getting so-so results with this dryer/diffuser. I mentioned that I had hooked up with the Deva Concepts team at the Premier Orlando show June 10-11, which is one of the big annual hair shows for beauty industry professionals. I modeled for them on stage (getting a Deva cut for free, which was way cool) and while I was there, I was given some personal instruction on how to use the dryer from Denis DaSilva, Lorraine Massey's partner, who created it. And maybe that is partly why I have been getting such awesome results.

I was asked if I could pass along any tips I was given and I wrote out the following for her - another member suggested it might be extremely helpful to some of the other members here if I would start a separate thread with this information ... so here it is:

Per Denis' instructions:

- I apply my product(s) soaking wet, then scrunch the excess moisture out with paper towels or a cotton t-shirt (I usually scrunch some extra product on my hair ends at this point to replace what I've blotted off, but that's me and not what Denis told me to do).
- I dry my nape first. The tips of the "fingers" rest on the lower middle part of my head ... the "heel" of the palm is even and right below my ear. The heel is about two inches from my head, lifting my hair. Dry for two minutes on low (on each side) WITHOUT MOVING.
- I dry my temples next. Same principle ... the heel of the "hand" is even with my hairline, the fingers are about 2/3 of the way to my crown. Fingers rest directly on my head, heel is about 2 inches away from my scalp, lifting the hair. Dry each side for two minutes without moving.
- I dry my crown next. Fingers are resting directly on top of my head about 1/3 of the way towards my front hairline ... the palm of the hand is covering my entire crown at a distance of about 2 inches (always lifting the hair). Again, dry for two minutes without moving.
- I dry the front of my hair on either side of my "part" - i.e., however my hair chooses to fall that day. Use the same principle as drying the temples and crown, always keeping the dryer about 2 inches from the scalp and lifting the hair out gently.
- I usually dry the area right above the nape on the back of the head below the crown area last, again using the same principles as the nape. By this time, my scalp area is usually pretty dry and set.
- Last, I "cup" my curls with the hand and let it sit for about two minutes to dry and set the length, moving around my head in small sections until everything is dry. My hair is very long and thick, so I usually alternate between the High and Low setting for this ... about 15 seconds for High, then 30-45 seconds for Low, and alternating back and forth.

It is extremely important to NOT MOVE the diffuser when it is placed on the head to avoid frizz. Once the hair is dry, you are at much less risk for frizzies, especially if you are using a product you need to scrunch out.

If anyone has any questions about it, I'll be glad to answer them as best I can.
- Tiffany
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thanks!

Anyway, I'm curious to know anything else you learned, in addition to working the diffuser. Do you like your cut? Did they use the Deva products on you? How much did they use? Did they give any demonstrations on clippipng your hair with those deva clips? Etc. Etc. (I'm so full of q's.)

Sounds like a great experience.

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Great review, Struttswife! I'd like to know how the diffuser feels to you as compared to other diffusers you have used. Is the temperature about the same that you have experienced using other dryers with a bowl diffuser? What about air flow - how does that compare to regular dryers with a bowl diffuser attached? And what's with the high and low setting? I thought a high setting would engender frizz. Did the dryer/diffuser come with an instructional DVD? If not, I really think Denis should make one so that people can get the hang of it, you know?

I'm going to try the technique you described with my bowl diffuser and dryer. I do think technique is key.
thanks!

Anyway, I'm curious to know anything else you learned, in addition to working the diffuser. Do you like your cut? Did they use the Deva products on you? How much did they use? Did they give any demonstrations on clippipng your hair with those deva clips? Etc. Etc. (I'm so full of q's.)

Sounds like a great experience.
Originally Posted by Brio
I love my cut! I haven't had such great hair since I was actually at Devachan in October 2002. Prior to my cut, I always held my hair back with a band or scarf ... keeping it down while bending over steamy shampoo bowls and cutting and coloring hair all day was NOT an option. Now I can wear it down and it still looks good even after eight or ten hours of doing hair.

They did use the Deva products on me ... Set It Free and Arc Angell. Now, as much as I love Deva Concepts, their gels do not work well in Florida humidity, at least for me. They just don't have enough hold for my hair and I always get frizz if I use them exclusively. I would say Francis probably put a palmful of product in my hair, which is below my bra strap and very thick. He clipped my hair up with the clips, angled right at the root so the curl's base stood up while it initially dried. We removed them to finish diffusing.

It absolutely was a great experience. Even more exciting is that they are planning to expand more into Florida and they have expressed an interest in working both with me and the salon where I will be going. My salon owner and I will be going to NYC this fall/winter to get Deva Concepts-certified ... then look out Tampa Bay
- Tiffany
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Great review, Struttswife! I'd like to know how the diffuser feels to you as compared to other diffusers you have used. Is the temperature about the same that you have experienced using other dryers with a bowl diffuser? What about air flow - how does that compare to regular dryers with a bowl diffuser attached? And what's with the high and low setting? I thought a high setting would engender frizz. Did the dryer/diffuser come with an instructional DVD? If not, I really think Denis should make one so that people can get the hang of it, you know?

I'm going to try the technique you described with my bowl diffuser and dryer. I do think technique is key.
Originally Posted by hmkenny
The diffuser took some time for me to get used to it. First, it's a 360-degree directional air flow, which means air comes out both the top and the bottom of the diffuser "hand." Getting used to controlling my hair in a bi-directional airflow was strange at first. However, it works this way because the Deva Sun Dryer and DevaFuser design is meant to dry curly hair from the inside out, not the outside in, as is done with a conventional blow dryer/diffuser combination. The premise is that hair that is dry at the root, even if it is still wet at the ends, is much less likely to frizz.

The temperature is more intense than other blow dryers I use, including my professional salon dryer - Deva Hot means HOT. That's one of the reasons I suggest only using the High setting for 15 seconds at a time ... trust me, if that dryer is on Hot, you are only going to be able to tolerate it anywhere near your scalp for that long anyway.

By the time you are switching to High/Low settings back and forth, your hair should be completely dry at the root, so a little more airflow on the mid-shaft to the ends - which is partially set anyway - will not frizz your hair if you are careful. Couple that with the fact that you are only using short blasts and you should be good to go. If you leave it on High continuously, though, you are probably asking for trouble.

There was no instructional DVD, only a booklet which I assume is given to both professionals and retail customers alike. Mine includes how to position the hair for both self-drying (the palm of the hand faces towards the handle) or for drying another person (the palm of the hand faces away from the handle). Incidentally I use the Deva dryer to dry all my curly-haired clients and they love the difference it has made on their curls. I'd be more than happy to mention an instructional DVD to the folks at Deva Concepts and see what they think.

Let us know how the technique using a conventional bowl-shaped diffuser works for you. I am by no means an expert and anything we can all contribute to the curl cause will help
- Tiffany
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Thanks for the tips. I intend to try them tomorrow. Are you drying right side up or upside down?? Wish I would have found them this a.m. since it's a day off. Always better to experiment on a non-work day.

I use the dryer with a wide bowl diffuser using the Pixiecurl method. It works well. I sometimes use the DevaFuser to slide up underneath the back during the winter for extra drying. I had no luck using it as I typically dry above. So I'm hoping your method will work since I feel guilty having spent all that money on a diffuser I don't use. My only other gripe is that my devafuser falls off frequently. Carlos told me that commonly happens so I hope they correct the design.

If you put together a DVD, I'd be interested. Visual demonstrations help me!
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Thanks for the tips. I intend to try them tomorrow. Are you drying right side up or upside down?? Wish I would have found them this a.m. since it's a day off. Always better to experiment on a non-work day.

I use the dryer with a wide bowl diffuser using the Pixiecurl method. It works well. I sometimes use the DevaFuser to slide up underneath the back during the winter for extra drying. I had no luck using it as I typically dry above. So I'm hoping your method will work since I feel guilty having spent all that money on a diffuser I don't use. My only other gripe is that my devafuser falls off frequently. Carlos told me that commonly happens so I hope they correct the design.

If you put together a DVD, I'd be interested. Visual demonstrations help me!
Originally Posted by icequeen
I'm drying mainly right-side up, although I will bend to the side and let my curls fall away from my head when I dry the length.

I noticed the diffuser is a bit loose as well ... I really jam that sucker on to keep it on! Hopefully, they will correct the design because that is annoying.
- Tiffany
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Well, I tried it but ended up finishing with my bowl diffuser. It worked ok for getting my roots dry but I need the extra volume and curl enhancement I get from my bowl diffuser. I'll keep it in mind for winter time when its hard to get everything dry.

I think the Devafuser is an ideal design for curlier hair than 2's and 3a's. Seems like it would work great on thick corkscrews which don't need extra curl help from the dryer. Just my opinion....
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Towel - HG - Curls Like Us

Always use the "Icequeen" method for products
StruttsWife, are you finding that your hair dries faster with the Deva dryer and diffuser than with a regular one? The only way I could ever justify spending so much is if it significantly reduced drying time.
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StruttsWife, thanks for awesome tutorial!

Icequeen, unfortunately for me, I tried to buy this dryer at Devachan in NYC last year, but was told that for my curl type she feared frizz. She highly recommended it for 2-3b. She told me if I did decide to buy I must keep the dryer still and not move it while drying. If the price comes down a bit or it appears on the swapboard again, it's mine!
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StruttsWife, thanks for awesome tutorial!

Icequeen, unfortunately for me, I tried to buy this dryer at Devachan in NYC last year, but was told that for my curl type she feared frizz. She highly recommended it for 2-3b. She told me if I did decide to buy I must keep the dryer still and not move it while drying. If the price comes down a bit or it appears on the swapboard again, it's mine!
Originally Posted by Ladydncing
It's interesting that when I've been into Devachan, I never see it used much. Pretty much used to dry the ends of hair but the bonnet dryers are used primarily. I asked Carlos about using it and was told to lean forward and scrunch my ends with the hands and Devafuser. I haven't tried it because I think it would result in nothing but frizz.

It's just my opinion based on my hair about the dryer and curlier hair.
I agree that a lower price or swap board deal would make the dryer appealing. Right now, I would not repurchase at full price. It's nice but not worth $180. for my hair with no return policy. Hindsight is always 20-20
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Leave -In: Marie Dean Red Clover, Coconut Lime Detangler and just about the entire line, CJ Rehab
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Towel - HG - Curls Like Us

Always use the "Icequeen" method for products
StruttsWife, are you finding that your hair dries faster with the Deva dryer and diffuser than with a regular one? The only way I could ever justify spending so much is if it significantly reduced drying time.
Originally Posted by PixieCurl
I went from about 45-50 minutes of drying time to 35-40, so it did reduce my time. 10 minutes isn't anything earth-shattering, but when you are getting ready in the morning while chasing after a 2-1/2-year old, every little bit helps
- Tiffany
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It's interesting that when I've been into Devachan, I never see it used much. Pretty much used to dry the ends of hair but the bonnet dryers are used primarily. I asked Carlos about using it and was told to lean forward and scrunch my ends with the hands and Devafuser. I haven't tried it because I think it would result in nothing but frizz.

It's just my opinion based on my hair about the dryer and curlier hair.
I agree that a lower price or swap board deal would make the dryer appealing. Right now, I would not repurchase at full price. It's nice but not worth $180. for my hair with no return policy. Hindsight is always 20-20
Originally Posted by icequeen
As much as I love the dryer, I don't know that I would have paid $180 for it either. Because I'm "in the industry", I was able to get both the dryer and samples of almost their entire product line for $100. Then again, my "regular" hair dryer I use in the salon costs $299, so I guess everything's relative, LOL.
- Tiffany
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This is my first post here - so forgive me if I ask something that has been asked and I just haven't found yet.

But I had the BC before I even decided to try this so my hair is about 3 inches all over - (the distance from finger tip to end of finger at palm) what is the best method of drying - would a diffuser help to get the part closest to my scalp dry so I have more volume - and would this one be the one to use or one like the Curl fusion shown on the sidebar here?

thanks
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As much as I love the dryer, I don't know that I would have paid $180 for it either. Because I'm "in the industry", I was able to get both the dryer and samples of almost their entire product line for $100.
Originally Posted by StruttsWife
thanks for the honest input. I'm sure if the price were lower, LOTS of folks on this board would have purchased this dryer without a second thought. I keep hoping they will lower the price on this dryer. I would think the design would help create volume, and I sure would like more volume. I seem to have this struggle between volume & product. With product, I get so much better curl formation, but lose volume. It seems the design of this dryer might help.

Then again, my "regular" hair dryer I use in the salon costs $299, so I guess everything's relative, LOL.
Originally Posted by StruttsWife
OUCH! Scissors ain't cheap, either, are they?

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