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Old 07-11-2007, 07:37 PM   #1
 
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whats better paired with recoil - coconut oil or joiwhip? i would just be using two products and im trying to decide between these two to pair with recoil thanks!!
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Wow, now those are two *completely* different products right there!

What result are you going for?
I'm quite fond of Joiwhip and Re:coil but I haven't used them together. I like both of them under a little BRHG.

Coconut oil is way too much to leave in my hair. You might have better results though. I'm not sure I've heard anyone mention using it with Re:coil though.
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Yeah, that's kind of like asking if I'd pick watermelon or chicken marsala... not even in the same category. I like recoil and joiwhip together and in other combos. I've never tried coconut oil, but I can't imagine that it gives any actual hold. I need at least one product with hold, so I'd have to pick the joiwhip.
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do you think joiwhip and recoil would be ok or would i need a leave in for moisture and silkiness? problem is i cant find of a leave in thats silicone and prtein free....
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I have never used coconut oil so I can't say anything about it.

But I have used re:coil under joiwhip all last winter and I didn't need a leave in. Although that's not to say that you won't.

On another thread about leave-ins some one mentioned the Beauty without cruelty revitatlizing leave in, I don't know if its protein free or if it is just silicone free though!
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You could use a drop or two of jojoba oil as a leave-in. Or you could try Giovanni Direct Leave-in (or even leaving in their 50/50 or Silk whatever conditioner). There's a little soy protein in it but it probably wouldn't give you any issues.
If you're concerned about protein, you're definitely gonna want to rethink that Joiwhip because it has a lot. Re:coil has protein too.
I really don't think protein needs to be avoided until you've confirmed that you have a problem with it personally though. Protein is only a "bad" ting for certain people and even then, sometimes you can be sensitive to one type and not another.
Another mousse I'm loving right now (that had less protein just silk amino acids which my hair loves and are totally worth a try, as is something with hydrolized silk) is Biosilk Silk Mousse. Lots of people love the Paul Mitchell medium hold sculpting foam or whatever too but I haven't tried that one (yet ).
If you can get your hands on some Jessicurl Aloeba (either by ordering or through the swap board) I can't rave enough about the combo of that and Re:coil. I was less impressed when I layered them but now I mix a tad of Aloeba and a tiny bit of Re:coil in my hand first and emulsify really well before applying and it *really* makes the Re:coil easier to distribute evenly and counteracts any dryness form the Re:coil (or Joiwhip if I use that over it).
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do you think joiwhip and recoil would be ok or would i need a leave in for moisture and silkiness?
It depends on your hair. I never use a leave-in in the summer and I'm fine.
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If you're concerned about protein, you're definitely gonna want to rethink that Joiwhip because it has a lot. Re:coil has protein too.

Another mousse I'm loving right now (that had less protein just silk amino acids which my hair loves and are totally worth a try, as is something with hydrolized silk) is Biosilk Silk Mousse. Lots of people love the Paul Mitchell medium hold sculpting foam or whatever too but I haven't tried that one (yet ).



does re:coil have a lot of protein? i know when i use products with a ton my hair gets really rough.....if re:coil doesn't have a lot i think i'll keep that (: do silk amino acids build up on hair at all?
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I don't have any buildup issues with silk amino acids.

If you're not having any problems using Re:coil, why worry about the protein? To answer your question though, the keratin is toward the end of the list so there's not a "ton" I suppose although keratin is one of the more hardcore proteins that some people have problems with. But again, if you're not having problems with it, I wouldn't worry about it.

Which protein containing products have you had problems with?
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