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Dancebabe885 07-17-2007 09:43 PM

Botticelli girls--what's your routine?
 
I have just recently figured out that I have botticelli curls, but am having trouble finding the right routine for my hair. It's also 3a/b as far as I've been told. So botticellis, tell me your hair care routines!
For reference, this is what my hair looks like (too short right now after a bad haircut, so I'm growing it!)
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/308/hairpe4.png

echokitten 07-18-2007 03:33 AM

Well....just out of curiousity what is your current routine? Maybe you only need to change one step or product to make it better for you. If my hair were shorter (actually there is a pic in my fotki of pre CG) it would look similar to yours. However, my hair is really long now and the curls are pulled out with the weight of my hair. So my routine is pretty simple. Mostly because I have to get up so early for work.

Most days I co-wash with V05 Calming Tea Therapy
use a little Aloeba or SheaMoisture leave in or not it depends
Biotera gel or Aura Hypo gel on wet hair
plopping until just before I walk out the door (about 15 min)
walk to work air drying
after about 1-2 hours scrunch out the crunch
(I really don't care that I'm seen with wet or gel cast hair, as I am self employed and have no boss to tell me otherwise)

I rarely do 2nd or 3rd day hair, because I am around food/coffee all day and it kinda gets messy, but if I am lazy enough (like today incidentally) I will just rewet and reapply gel to specific areas like my crown and back of my head. These areas seem to go flat during the day/sleeping even if I pineapple. HTH!

pbjcurlygirl 07-18-2007 08:11 AM

Hey dancebabe,
I have fine but alot of botticelli curls, 3a I think, below shoulder length...looks like yours but blonde. I currently co wash with a VO5 moisture milks condish and then condition with Aussie 3mm (old formula) this I leave in for 5-10 min. then rinse out. With soaking wet, drippy hair I put a leave-in in, right now its GF sleek and shine and followed by a strong gel (Got to B Spiked Up right now). Then I scrunch with a t-shirt and diffuse for body.
I have been using this same shower routine for about 1 week and it is working pretty good so far. I co wash every 2 or 3 days..other days I put hair up in scrunchie b4 the shower, then afterwards I wet it down with a mixture of VO5 condish, aloe vera gel, honey and water to re-activate the gel I have in from the previous day. This has been working really well and this morning I could have had 3rd day hair 'cause I took it out of the pineapple this morning and fluffed with my fingers and it looked pretty good - I could have gotten by with a little refresher spray on the top layer.
Unfortunately, I felt like washing it and trying something new. I did the same shower routine but instead of GFSS leave in then GTBSU I did GFSS then aloe gel(for a little more moisture) then GTBSU...my curls are really curly but very thin, stringy botticellis. A lot less body than I'm used to. I will wait 'till completely dry to judge and will probably try 2nd day hair with it too to be sure.
HTH and good luck,
pbj

Dancebabe885 07-18-2007 09:58 AM

My routine has been the Jessicurl system, but the heavier line not lighter... I wonder if it might not be the right one for me..but my hair does look nice with it.

I use:
hair cleansing cream
then leave in the too shea for about 5 minutes
when it's dripping wet I spray in a leave in condish-john frieda frizz ease right now
then I use rockin' ringlets and confident coils
then plop for as long as I feel like I need to
After, sometimes I diffuse if I don't have time, or I like to turn my room fan on low and sit in front of it because the air is room temp and it doesn't blow my hair around, but helps it to dry.

On days when I don't want to waste my Jessicurl I use:
Hello hydration shampoo/condish-- they are moisturizing and they don't leave my hair feeling dry at all
dripping wet hair- leave in condish spray, john frieda
bumble and bumble curl creme, the heavier one for med/coarse hair (got it for free, but not sure if it's the right one to use?)
lastly, spray gel- garnier fructis curl activating gel

also, I find that a pineapple doesn't work that well for me for 2nd day hair.. maybe I should totally re-wet?

let me know if you see anything wrong with my routine!

pinksugar 07-18-2007 10:40 AM

Your hair looks great! I really like the length.

After about a month of bad hair days I have found a combination that is working for me.

I poo every other day with Ouidad Clear & Gentle. Apply Ouidad Balancing Rinse leave-in daily. Then I apply AG re:coil to just out of the shower wet hair then slightly micro-fiber towel dry my hair. After that I apply ABBA Weightless Gel to my hair upside down and then a little to the back rightside up. Diffuse side to side then upside down. Don't touch for another hour then scrunch the crunch using Set It Free.

This has been working great for me and I hope it continues.

echokitten 07-18-2007 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dancebabe885
My routine has been the Jessicurl system, but the heavier line not lighter... I wonder if it might not be the right one for me..but my hair does look nice with it.

I use:
hair cleansing cream
then leave in the too shea for about 5 minutes
when it's dripping wet I spray in a leave in condish-john frieda frizz ease right now
then I use rockin' ringlets and confident coils
then plop for as long as I feel like I need to
After, sometimes I diffuse if I don't have time, or I like to turn my room fan on low and sit in front of it because the air is room temp and it doesn't blow my hair around, but helps it to dry.

On days when I don't want to waste my Jessicurl I use:
Hello hydration shampoo/condish-- they are moisturizing and they don't leave my hair feeling dry at all
dripping wet hair- leave in condish spray, john frieda
bumble and bumble curl creme, the heavier one for med/coarse hair (got it for free, but not sure if it's the right one to use?)
lastly, spray gel- garnier fructis curl activating gel

also, I find that a pineapple doesn't work that well for me for 2nd day hair.. maybe I should totally re-wet?

let me know if you see anything wrong with my routine!

Iwonder ...are you CG? Because if you are I am not too sure that the bolded is CG. Usually John Frieda stuff has 'cones in them. But if not...then you are good to go... :wink:

Dancebabe885 07-18-2007 11:00 AM

If by CG you mean no-poo, then nope...but I'm still working on learning all the abbreviations/terms everyone uses! lol. As for the john frieda having silicone...I'm not exactly sure what to look for in the ingredients.

pbjcurlygirl 07-18-2007 11:47 AM

Hey dancebabe,
I agree with echokitten about 'cones in john frieda stuff - I had to unload it onto my sisters (all straighthairs) since it had the a-cone. After reading so much here about various routines I've noticed that some peoples' hair do well with cones and an occasional sulfate poo to get rid of buildup. I found that for my fine but thick, extremely dry, colored curls getting rid of 'cones and sulfates, most waxes, parabens and anything non-water soluble was the answer...so far! It may change tomorrow!!!

good luck!

Ingredients
Water , Glycerin , Amodimethicone , Panthenol , Dipropylene Glycol , VP/Dimethylaminoethylmethacrylate Copolymer , Bisamino PEG/PPG-41/3 Aminoethyl PG-Propyl Dimethi , Trideceth-12 , PEG-8 Dimethicone Meadowfoamate , Diazolidinyl Urea , Fragrance , Polyquaternium-59 , Wheatgermamidopropyl Dimethylamine Hydrolyzed Whea , Citric Acid , Butylene Glycol , Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein PG-Propyl Silanetriol , Sodium Chloride , Cetrimonium Chloride , Wheat Amino Acids , Tocopheryl Acetate , Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate , Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract , Chelidonium Majus Extract , Rosa Canina Fruit Extract , Olive Oil PEG-7 Esters , Methylchloroisothiazolinone , Ascorbic Acid , Retinyl Palmitate , Methylisothiazolinone , Methylparaben , Propylparaben , Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Extract

pbj

pbjcurlygirl 07-18-2007 11:50 AM

dancebabe - sorry I forgot to put that these are the ingredients to john frieda frizz ease daily nourishment leave-in spray :oops:
pbj

Dancebabe885 07-18-2007 01:52 PM

thanks, I was going to go and check my bottle but now I don't have to! lol. Anyone know if any of those are silicones? or would it directly say silicone?

pinksugar 07-18-2007 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbjcurlygirl
Hey dancebabe,
I agree with echokitten about 'cones in john frieda stuff - I had to unload it onto my sisters (all straighthairs) since it had the a-cone. After reading so much here about various routines I've noticed that some peoples' hair do well with cones and an occasional sulfate poo to get rid of buildup. I found that for my fine but thick, extremely dry, colored curls getting rid of 'cones and sulfates, most waxes, parabens and anything non-water soluble was the answer...so far! It may change tomorrow!!!

good luck!

Ingredients
Water , Glycerin , Amodimethicone , Panthenol , Dipropylene Glycol , VP/Dimethylaminoethylmethacrylate Copolymer , Bisamino PEG/PPG-41/3 Aminoethyl PG-Propyl Dimethi , Trideceth-12 , PEG-8 Dimethicone Meadowfoamate , Diazolidinyl Urea , Fragrance , Polyquaternium-59 , Wheatgermamidopropyl Dimethylamine Hydrolyzed Whea , Citric Acid , Butylene Glycol , Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein PG-Propyl Silanetriol , Sodium Chloride , Cetrimonium Chloride , Wheat Amino Acids , Tocopheryl Acetate , Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate , Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract , Chelidonium Majus Extract , Rosa Canina Fruit Extract , Olive Oil PEG-7 Esters , Methylchloroisothiazolinone , Ascorbic Acid , Retinyl Palmitate , Methylisothiazolinone , Methylparaben , Propylparaben , Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Extract

pbj

The two bolded are the ones that I noticed.

tinicurlyd 07-18-2007 02:20 PM

Great cut/curls Dancebabe885. :D I dont think its a bad cut, i love the length, frames your face well.

Dancebabe885 07-18-2007 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinicurlyd
Great cut/curls Dancebabe885. :D I dont think its a bad cut, i love the length, frames your face well.

thanks very much :) I just like it to be longer usually!
As for the silicones in my leave in... perhaps I should switch to a new one, or just use my regular conditioner as a leave in.

pbjcurlygirl 07-19-2007 07:48 AM

dancebabe,
I love your curls that length too! Some of us are always on a quest for longer hair!
I found it easiest to start out completely silicone and sulfate free for co wash, condish and leave-in.
I had a panic attack when I was at my mom's and had to use a non-CG conditioner - :roll: and then I realized that its just hair!
My goal is to allow my curls to be the best they can be...if I find out they need silicones and occasional sulfate poo then I'll do it (for them of course) :lol:
I'm a newbie and therefore I really shouldn't give advice but experimentation seems to be the name of the game here for curlied finding their routine....good luck!

Jaxie 07-19-2007 07:56 AM

I would think that if you are only cleaning your hair with the cleansing cream then it probably isn't strong enough to take out any of the cones in the John Frieda product. Is the garnier fructis product CG or modified CG?

As for leave-ins with out cones, I have never found one in a store, bit there was a thread on this forum not that long ago that named some. The one I want to try is Beauty Without Cruelty revitalizing leave in, it is supposed to be in health food stores. I've tried to find it with no luck so far, butI'm going to keep looking.

When i find it I'll let you know how it works!

LavenderCurls 07-19-2007 08:37 AM

Dancebabe - there's one cone that is the worst and that's cyclopentasiloxane. It takes several shampooings to get it out of your hair.

I think the Hello Hydration shampoo and conditioner have cones in them. But their gels and mousses don't.

pbjcurlygirl 07-20-2007 08:31 AM

[quote="Jaxie"]Is the garnier fructis product CG or modified CG?quote]

Jaxie, its Garnier Fructisse sleek and shine leave in cream and its got the a-cone :? would that make it nonCG or modCG? anyway, so I am going to only use a little on my ends and wait and see if I get build up. It works pretty well so far, but if I use too much it gets really heavy and makes my hair icky and dull. My hair is so dry and fine though I need to use something to moisturize it without weighing it down!
I have a non-sulfate poo that I picked up just incase I needed to get rid of buildup that BS / ACV won't get.
pbj-

Dancebabe885 07-20-2007 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxie
I would think that if you are only cleaning your hair with the cleansing cream then it probably isn't strong enough to take out any of the cones in the John Frieda product. Is the garnier fructis product CG or modified CG?

As for leave-ins with out cones, I have never found one in a store, bit there was a thread on this forum not that long ago that named some. The one I want to try is Beauty Without Cruelty revitalizing leave in, it is supposed to be in health food stores. I've tried to find it with no luck so far, butI'm going to keep looking.

When i find it I'll let you know how it works!

If you're talking about my garnier fructis product, it's the spray gel and it has no cones in it. I've decided not to use the Jon Frieda anymore and I guess I need to look for a new leave in along with a more gentle shampoo/condish that I can buy in a regular store because I don't always have enough $$ for Jessicurl.

pbjcurlygirl 07-20-2007 12:42 PM

:oops:
Jaxie and dancebabe - I was thinking of my GF stuff - sorry!!
pbj

Jaxie 07-21-2007 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dancebabe885
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxie
I would think that if you are only cleaning your hair with the cleansing cream then it probably isn't strong enough to take out any of the cones in the John Frieda product. Is the garnier fructis product CG or modified CG?

As for leave-ins with out cones, I have never found one in a store, bit there was a thread on this forum not that long ago that named some. The one I want to try is Beauty Without Cruelty revitalizing leave in, it is supposed to be in health food stores. I've tried to find it with no luck so far, butI'm going to keep looking.

When i find it I'll let you know how it works!

If you're talking about my garnier fructis product, it's the spray gel and it has no cones in it. I've decided not to use the Jon Frieda anymore and I guess I need to look for a new leave in along with a more gentle shampoo/condish that I can buy in a regular store because I don't always have enough $$ for Jessicurl.

Do you have an Ulta near by? They carry the devacurl products, so you could try the low or no poo. I do know there are other gentle cleansers out there, but I'm not sure what they are. If I hear of any others available in stores, I will let you know!


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