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Old 07-24-2007, 10:58 PM   #1
 
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For a while, I've been using Burt's Bees Very Volumizing Pomegranate and Soy Shampoo every other day on the scalp, but its texture annoys me, feels hard to rinse out and seems to make the crown area flatter. I want to switch back to Catwalk Oatmeal and Honey for a regular shampoo (my fave so far). Occasionally I use a Suave Naturals shampoo with ammonium laureth/lauryl sulfates.

Who else still uses sulfate shampoo? Post your products/stories here!
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Old 07-24-2007, 11:25 PM   #2
 
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I do - twice a week. I tried using low poo but it wasn't enough.
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Old 07-25-2007, 05:30 AM   #3
 
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I've just switched back and it seems to make a big difference. After reading Curly Girl a year ago, I thought my hair was incredibly dry. Now I've realized that it wasn't very dry in the first place and using a gentle sulfate poo (Dove Sheer Moisture) with sodium laureth sulfate and coco-betaine is fine for me.
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Old 07-25-2007, 05:32 AM   #4
 
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I do probably about 1x a month but I also low poo probably every 3rd day. I use HEAD Clearly Shampoo and also Essential Oil (EO) Chamile and Honey for weekly shampoos.
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I wouldn't give up on non-sulfate 'poo just based on the Burt's Bees. A lot of people don't get good results with the Burt's Bees stuff. :P
Have you tried any other non-sulfate 'poos? Giovanni 50/50 is really good. So is Jessicurl GLS. Have you tried either of those?

If you want to go back to sulfates, you could try only washing your roots most of the time and only washing the length occasionally. Sodium laureth sulfate is the most gentle (of the most readily available ones). I use Aloe Rid w/ that sulfate in it every now and then to clarify (because Aloe Rid is also chelating since it contains the EDTA, I think it's called, that removes hard water mineral build-up). You might try COwashing most of the time, using a non-Burt's Bees non-sulfate 'poo weekly or so, and clarifying with a gentle sulfate poo every few weeks.

Or just go back to your old stuff. It's not the end of the world. If you like the results, that's all that matters.
If you do go back to sulfates you might wanna splurge on a nice super moisturizing DT to do weekly (a good idea anyway but especially if you're using a more drying shampoo) or a more moisturizing conditioner for every day use.
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Now I've realized that it wasn't very dry in the first place and using a gentle sulfate poo with sodium laureth sulfate and coco-betaine is fine for me.
Me too.
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:17 PM   #7
 
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I use Elucence shampoo, which has a gentle sulfate low on the ingredient list. I found this to be an acceptable compromise between no sulfates and the harsh sodium lauryl/laureth ones.
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:21 PM   #8
 
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I use a sulfate shampoo (moisturizing, creamy or laced with conditioner) two to three times a week, and a clarifying or chelating shampoo once to twice a month.
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:32 PM   #9
 
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I used sulfate-containing poos after using a product that really "wacks out" my curls in summer and every other day in winter. Usually, in summer, I use Jessicurl HCC (for extra moisture retention to battle intense humidity).

My fav sulfate-containing poos don't contain cones so they are gentle without having to coat my hair to protect it from its harshness. Poos w/o cones also seem to avoid the "flash drying" effect that I dislike (when my hair feels practically dry in the shower, just after rinsing).

My personal fav sulfate-containing poos are Elucence MBS, Aussie Moist poo (has dimethicone but doesn't give me the flash-drying problem), Aveda Sap Moss poo, Aveda Be Curly poo, HE Totally Twisted poo, and Pantene Restoratives Anti-Breakage poo.
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:34 PM   #10
 
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I do. About every other day.
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:41 PM   #11
 
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I was using mine about every other day. This week I went 3 days before using poo and I think I should have gone longer. My hair looked better on the days I didn't shampoo.
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I shampoo daily but use a mild sulfate (like Eluence) or a non sulfate like Jessicurl.

I use a true sulfate probably once every other week.

My hair has never been in better shape and I think it is because I have switched to milder cleansing.
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:46 PM   #13
 
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I use sulfate shampoo... it varies-the brand and frequency.... Also depends on what products I've been using.
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Right now in my rotation are: Aussie, Back to Basics, and Suave Healthy Curls. I also use Activate and a clarifying shampoo. Trying to use up what I've got before I purchase any thing else. (I love Elucence, but trying to get through my pj stash!)
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Old 07-25-2007, 03:20 PM   #15
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Yes, about twice a week. I tried the total CG thing for a couple months, it just didn't work out for me. My curls look better with a sulfate shampoo every now and then.
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Old 07-25-2007, 03:22 PM   #16
 
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I use curls rock about 2-3 times a week and i love it!
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Old 07-25-2007, 06:12 PM   #17
 
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I do, I need to sometimes actually.

Those days where my hair looks flat, stringy, poofy and just TOO soft
(and of course I'm in the shower and I've forgotten to bring in some baking soda along)

I get all my curl and volume back that way
all bouncy and shiny again

I've currently been doing this with Herbal Essences Hello Hydration shampoo
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I placed this as a post but noone replied so I thought I would try it in this post...thanks!

I am still on a hunt for a good shampoo to use. I want one that does have sulfates, I have tried EMBS for awhile and I think it is just too moisturizing for me. I want to try just a regular poo (without silicones). I have access to Whole Foods, Chamberlins, Ulta, Sally's and Trade Secret. So any of these stores would work! I went to a health food store last night and saw Natures Gate, Jasons, Abba, and many more.

I do wash my hair every day, I cannot seem to get it to look right itf I do not. As I said I would prefer one without silicones, not too harsh but with sulfates

Any thoughts for those of you who use sulfates Poos?

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Old 08-01-2007, 07:28 PM   #19
 
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I placed this as a post but noone replied so I thought I would try it in this post...thanks!

I am still on a hunt for a good shampoo to use. I want one that does have sulfates, I have tried EMBS for awhile and I think it is just too moisturizing for me. I want to try just a regular poo (without silicones). I have access to Whole Foods, Chamberlins, Ulta, Sally's and Trade Secret. So any of these stores would work! I went to a health food store last night and saw Natures Gate, Jasons, Abba, and many more.

I do wash my hair every day, I cannot seem to get it to look right itf I do not. As I said I would prefer one without silicones, not too harsh but with sulfates

Any thoughts for those of you who use sulfates Poos?

Thanks,
Jacalyn
I highly recommend Catwalk Oatmeal and Honey Shampoo if you want something with sulfates that isn't too harsh (only ammonium laureth sulfate, and it lathers a little). When I switched back to it after using Burt's Bees 'poo, my hair didn't look much different, but my scalp feels a lot cleaner. Also, I can only use about a nickel-sized drop of conditioner on the crown because the Catwalk seems to moisturize that area. I hardly get any frizz on the crown with this (harsh shampoos and protein conditioners give me more frizz) too.

Catwalk Oatmeal and Honey Shampoo is free of silicone, protein, parabens, mineral oil and other nasty stuff.

Ingredients: Disodium Oleamido PEG-2, Sulfosuccinate, Ammonium Laureth Sulfate, Cucumis Sativus (Cucmber) Fruit Extract, Actinidia Chinesis (Kiwi) Fruit Extract, Coriandrum Sativum (Coriander) Extract, Jasminum Officinale (Jasmine) Extract, Citrus Aurantium Amara (Bitter Orange) Flower Extract, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Parfum (Fragrance), Cocos nucifera (Coconut) Oil, Gardenia Tahitensis Flower, Santalum Album (Sandalwood) Oil, Pogostemon Cablin Oil, Juniperus Communis Fruit Extract, Cananga Odorata Flower Extract, Aleurites Moluccana Seed Oil, Macadamia Ternifolia Seed Oil, Polyquaternium-11, Retinyl Palmitate, Panthenol, Tocopheryl Acetate, Sodium Hydroxymethylglycinate, Citric Acid, Benzyl Benzoate, Coumarin, Eugenol.

I recommend Suave Naturals Coconut Shampoo for a heavy duty after-the-beach shampoo (I soak a lot of VO5 conditioner in my hair during the trip to protect it).

I hope you something you like! Also, I think that when you do find the right products, you'll have an easier time getting second-day hair. Good luck!
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Old 08-02-2007, 04:06 PM   #20
 
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I tried the Catwalk awhile back and to be hoenst it did not do that great. Perhaps it was too much moisture?

I am trying out Natures Gate Poo right now. Does anyone have any thoughts about Natures Gate Poos or any others that you can get at the health food store or perhaps Ulta?

I just don't want silicones in it but I do think I need the sulfates

Thanks so much!
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