Cradle Cap..?

Hi. I am a newbie to this discussion board. Here is my problem:
My 2 daughters and I have very curly hair. About a year ago..I started developing something on my head..like a white dry coating. (not dandruff) I went to the dermotologist who said it is Scalp Psoriasis, nothing he gives me works to get rid of it.

Now, both of my daughters have started to show the same thing on their scalp as I have. I think it could be the hair products we are using. We all use the same hair mousse by Aussie.

Do any of the products out here address this problem..? Its like when the babies get cradle cap.

Where do I start? There are sooo many products on this website.. I just dont know where to start. Can anyone help?

And.. do they Ship to the U.S.? Or can they be bought here?
Thank you.. anyone and everyone who has an opinion.. help.. suggestions.
I have had psoriasis on my scalp in the past and the only thing that worked for me is a tar shampoo. It is not CG but it works. You could perhaps spot treat your scalp, protecting your hair with conditioner, give itl a little time and see if it works. You should see some results within a day or two. If it is indeed scalp psoriasis it should work. If this does not appeal to you then you could try the Health-Related Hair Issues board. Oh, and I have also in the past used prescription, topical steroids on my scalp.
My nephew had AWFUL cradle cap for a long time. I tole my SIL to start washing with conditioner, and it's the only thing that's ever helped!
I'm a 3b, with 3c underneath.

Used to be CG, now I'm not. Using Suave Aloe & Waterlily shampoo & condish, JoiWhip, BRHG, Suave Aloe gel, Aussie Tizz No Frizz, and anything else that looks good!
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I have been reading the boards all morning. I guess I just need a place to start. I am sure all of the shampooing.. and products we use in our hair is the cause of this buildup we have.

I guess I just dont know how to start. They should have a board that tells you what to do 1st, 2nd, 3rd..ect.

1st I think is throwing away shampoo? And then getting a good conditioner..? throwing away all hair products..and getting CG friendly ones.. There is just soooo much information out here..

Its finding where to start.. that has me going crazy..
Yeah, there's alot! Don't throw anything away, though. Just put it away. Lots of times you find out that you need to modify the routine and then you'll just be buying what you threw away again!

Just start by shampooing real good, then condition with a conditioner that doesn't contain cones. You'll find these things on the board that people call "CG-friendly". Those are the ones that are safe for using when you're not shampooing. After that start, make sure that the mousse or gel or whatever you're using doesn't contain cones. Or, at least that they contain water-soluble cones. If you use the search function that's found closer to the top of the page, you can find out if your product is CG-friendly or not.

That's mostly it. Some people, like me, like a shampoo every now and then. I know it does make my scalp kinda flakey, but my curls love the boost. So, it's ok if I use a bit of cones in my products. It takes alot of experimenting, but that's the fun part!

Just take a deep breath, use the search function, and start experimenting! Don't worry if you find you're using something with a cone or a shampoo with sulfates. It's not the end of the world. You just start over again. It's about getting your hair and scalp into good health. That's all.
I'm a 3b, with 3c underneath.

Used to be CG, now I'm not. Using Suave Aloe & Waterlily shampoo & condish, JoiWhip, BRHG, Suave Aloe gel, Aussie Tizz No Frizz, and anything else that looks good!
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Almost forgot.....try to find the book "Curly Girl" by Lorraine Massey. It helps to explain the procedure and the methods behind all this.
I'm a 3b, with 3c underneath.

Used to be CG, now I'm not. Using Suave Aloe & Waterlily shampoo & condish, JoiWhip, BRHG, Suave Aloe gel, Aussie Tizz No Frizz, and anything else that looks good!
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I had the same problem with my scalp for years. Nothing worked, not even treatments from the dermatologist. When I stopped using shampoo a few months ago, the problems with my scalp stopped. I couldn't believe it. Just like that it was over. Now I don't know if this will work for you, but based on a thread somewhere on this site, I mixed some conditioner with brown sugar. Sorry I can't remember proportions, but it was creamy when I finished mixing. I looked at it and thought "now what is this supposed to do?", but I took it in the shower, wet my hair, applied it to my scalp and rubbed with my finger tips (no nails) for about 5 minutes. Then I rinsed. That was it. I have never had to redo the scrub, but I have been CO washing my hair ever since. I honestly didn't think it would work, but for the first time in over a decade my scalp is clear. The good thing about this is that it can't hurt. Since you and your daughters are having the same problem there my be something in the products that you are using that is causing "contact dermatitis", which just means that the cause is external and not internal. Anyway, I highly encourage you to get off the shampoo for a while. HTH.
i have had this for 2 years now. pre-CG and post-CG. i noticed a bit of a difference in it when i went CG, but it's still there and kicking. i might try the brown sugar/co mix.
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My fiance has cradle cap, both on his scalp and his face. We're able to control the flaking on his face with good products and a prescription steroidal cream, however, his scalp is still not so great. I feel like we've tried everything - various different shampoos (I think including a tar shampoo), going CG, and an Rx shampoo, and we've only gotten ok results.

If you find an answer, please let me know!
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I have a flaky spot on my scalp that gets much better when I use tea tree oil mixed into conditioner and massage it into the spot. I mixed about 5 drops of tea tree oil and 4 ounces of conditioner in a travel-sized bottle that I keep in my shower. If I do it about three times a week it seems to help. I also had good luck with doing the same thing with J/A/S/O/N Tea Tree Oil conditioner, but making my own mixture was cheaper in the long run. You can buy tea tree oil at natural foods stores or, if you have one nearby, Trader Joe's. I've seen J/A/S/O/N products at natural stores and at Walgreens in the "natural" section (with the Burt's Bees, etc. stuff).
I've had scalp psoriasis for nearly 5 years now, nothing I have used has ever worked, I'm not sure there's much left on the market for me to try, I must've spent a fortune on stuff. It's the nature of the beast, unfortunately. What does help is oiling my scalp (I've got peanut oil atm but have used coconut and olive in the past) just rub it into your scalp and leave it as long as possible to soften the flakes, comb it all out (a nit comb does the job well) and give it a wash. This is a temporary fix for me but works better for others. It worked well on my son who had some cradle cap thing happening, I only had to do it once and it cleared up really well. He has very short hair and it was easy for me to do on him, it's harder on myself because of the curls, the length of my hair and the position of the psoriasis, but I keep trying.(Nit combs are NOT curl friendly!)
OMG.. you know how sometimes you think "Am I the only one going through this?" Its good to know..I am not. Not that I would wish this on anyone else but the advise from others is a such a welcome thing. I have had this on my scalp for over 2 years and nothing they do helps. I have tried meds, oils, steroids. I just want it better. When I saw my daughters developing the same condition.. I just sat down and cried. I can deal with this sort of thing on my own.. but my beautiful daughters.. having to deal with this broke my heart.

I already talked to them both yesterday about stopping the 'poo and the gels and mousse's. My little one was almost in tears. She hates frizzy hair.. he likes her hair CRUNCHY and in these tight little ringlits. She is afraid with just conditioner she will be a frizz head.

Any help on how to get nice hard crunchy ringlets.. without all the BAD stuff.. would be great. I will try anything.. thank you all again.. Uuuugh...
Oh, try honey! It's a humectant, but if you use enough (have to experiment), you'll get alotta crunch!
I'm a 3b, with 3c underneath.

Used to be CG, now I'm not. Using Suave Aloe & Waterlily shampoo & condish, JoiWhip, BRHG, Suave Aloe gel, Aussie Tizz No Frizz, and anything else that looks good!
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If you start your daughter on CG and learn some of the techniques & tips from the forums here, you can tell her that she will almost surely have less frizz and better ringlets than she'll have using the shampoos. Once you start looking at some of the before & after photos of forum members, you'll see how much improvement a lot of people have from stopping or greatly reducing the shampoo and silicones.
And going CG has been the ONLY thing in 15-20 years that has dramatically helped clear my scalp, and I tried a lot of things, just like you. I believe I have what you are calling cradle cap, with the white flaky part extended down past my hair line to my forehead. After stopping with the shampoo, even the first week, my scalp was 80% better. It feels so much cleaner, happier, far less itchy, since I went CG.
And as for the very crunchy curls, all that requires is using a hard-hold gel and using a lot of it. LA Looks Durahold is very popular here and it's very cheap at the drugstore (other LA Looks are also quite hard -- lots of people like the Curls gel and the Sport gel). Biosilk Rock Hard Gelee and Biotera Firm Hold Gel (from Sally's Beauty Supply) are other good ones.
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Seal with camellia oil
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Me too! Me too! I've got sebborheic dermatitis/cradle cap/eczema/whatever you call it too. Only thing that ever worked for me was Head 'n Shoulders, but it was somewhat drying on the hair, though not as much as the prescription shampoos. I just started going shampoo-less yesterday, so I have no input yet. I think I am going to pick up some brown sugar though.
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Me too! Me too! I've got sebborheic dermatitis/cradle cap/eczema/whatever you call it too. Only thing that ever worked for me was Head 'n Shoulders, but it was somewhat drying on the hair, though not as much as the prescription shampoos. I just started going shampoo-less yesterday, so I have no input yet. I think I am going to pick up some brown sugar though.
Originally Posted by unpoof
I tried the brown sugar/condish thing yesterday. I'm not sure how much it helped yet, but it didn't make anything worse, so I am going to keep doing it. Have to laugh or it'll make me crazy...
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Once you start looking at some of the before & after photos of forum members, you'll see how much improvement a lot of people have from stopping or greatly reducing the shampoo and silicones.
And going CG has been the ONLY thing in 15-20 years that has dramatically helped clear my scalp, and I tried a lot of things, just like you. I believe I have what you are calling cradle cap, with the white flaky part extended down past my hair line to my forehead. After stopping with the shampoo, even the first week, my scalp was 80% better. It feels so much cleaner, happier, far less itchy, since I went CG.
Originally Posted by RozettaStone
I wholeheartedly agree about the silicones in particular. I think they are a big contributor to cradle cap...huge. I'm trying now to stay away from them completely, and already my forehead is clearing up.
I have the same problem. Using no harsh shampoo greatly helped, but didn't stop it completely. I have to say I have it narrowed down to hairspray. Even the tiniest bit causes my scalp to be so dry (even though it's not sprayed directly on my scalp). Whatever.

I also oil my scalp. I usually use T Tree oil, Lavender oil, Jojoba oil - either seperately, or mixed together - whichever. I then follow it with the brown sugar scrub to get all the 'flakes' away and the oil out. I wish this would go away, but at least I have found a way to 'control' it.
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I worked at a day care and babies who had cradle cap -- we would "shampoo" their hair/scalp with baby oil and then comb out the cradle cap stuff. I've also had to do this on my own kids when they were babies.

Only once did this method not work (at the day care). Mom would do the baby oil thing about once a week, but the stuff always came back. So, she took the baby to the doctor and was prescribed an antibiotic b/c it turned out to be a bacterial infection. That got rid of it.

So, maybe discuss that possibility with your doctor?
Good luck
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what about shea butter and coconut oil here is a link to a web site I found that sell a sample for 2.50 so you can try it and see if you like it
good luck .


www.coconutoil-online.com

I hope the link works

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