View Poll Results: What's your opinion of cyclopentasiloxane?
Hate it! Avoid it completely! 19 25.33%
Never tried it/avoid it because of negative comments. 24 32.00%
Used to use it but now don't. 9 12.00%
Use it rarely then clarify after. 4 5.33%
Use it rarely. 7 9.33%
Use it regularly and clarify regularly. 6 8.00%
Use it regularly and love it. 4 5.33%
My HG contains cyclopentasiloxane. 2 2.67%
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YOUR opinion of cyclopentasiloxane

Okay, it's no secret that I'm anti-cyclopentasiloxane, but I'm curious who else is avoiding or liking it. I know babywavy loves her Aussie cream with it, others avoid it like the plague, and still others have moved away from it once the delayed reaction set in.

So you you hate/avoid it? Have you never tried anything containing it because of the comments/rants here? Did you use it before but had ill effects and stopped using it? Do you use it rarely? Regularly? Do you clarify more often because you use it? Is your HG cyclopentasiloxane-containing?
I hate cyclopentasiloxane. It was invented by the devil himself to torment me. Here's my story. I was cleaning out my product graveyard fairly recently (a few months ago, maybe). I finally got to the very back of it. These back-most products are ones that I bought before I found nc.com, before I learned to watch ingredients, before I started finding out what my hair really likes and dislikes. But even with my prior ignorance, these are products I only used once or maybe twice because I absolutely hated how they made my hair look and feel.

Well, now that I'm less ignorant, I decided to check out the ingredients to see if I could find the culprit. The first one had cyclopentasiloxane near the top. Hmmmm. The second one? More cyclopentasiloxane. I went through a whole armful of products. Cyclopentasiloxane in every single one!!! So now, I avoid it like the plague. And my hair thanks me every single day.
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My option would be, neither seek it out nor avoid it - neutral, I guess. It's not in any of my HG's, but I do have the odd product with it, and I do shampoo.
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My Curls condish has this as one of the main ingredients. My observation is that my hair doesn't have anymore or any less frizz than before using it weeks ago. It has good slip, which makes it easier for me to comb my hair. My hair naturally has alittle bit of frizz, but this ingredient doesn't make it worse. I'm guessing that maybe this ingredient is a no-no for those who CG. But since I don't CG, it hasn't posed a problem.....not yet, anyway.
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I notice more and more that it is in a lot of products, lots of drugstore buys and some salon stuff too... I won't buy new things if this is listed high on the list (like much of the J. Frieda brilliant brunette line, for example). However, in the existing products that I have, I do not notice any problem with it. I attribute this to the fact that I use cleanser (shampoo or a scalp treatment) 1-2X a week. Also, knock on wood, my hair seems to have a fairly high tolerance since it likes a wide range of products. I try not to abuse that tolerance and tend to go for the more natural product and/or the product with fewer ingredients rather than chemical bomb type products... But I've not had a problem with this ingredient so there is no need for me to ban it from my rotation.

Interesting poll. I'm curious what others have to say!

Also, if someone can bump another thread explaining the evils of this ingredient (or else list them briefly here) I would appreciate it. Thanks!!
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I stopped using cytopentoxieldfksentosenngoane when I stopped shampooing everyday, so its really hard to tell what was causing what... all I know is my hair is a lot healthier now!
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I think my biggest moan about this chemical is that unless you read NC.com fairly thoroughly, or are very well informed, you can't tell from the name that it's a cone!

I lurked on NC.com for a while some time ago when I started growing my hair. I decided to avoid cones after reading things here - but didn't realise that this stuff is one! So I ended up using lots of Fructis stuff with cyclopentasiloxane in it, thinking that I was cone free. I was using SLS shampoo, but really only on my scalp - so the stuff must have been building up for ages on the length of my hair. There was I putting it on thinking I was helping my hair, and all the time not realising I was just adding to build-up.

Now I have a different routine, my hair feels so much softer and nicer.
cytopentoxieldfksentosenngoane
Originally Posted by sirenrising
I can never spell that one either!
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Also, if someone can bump another thread explaining the evils of this ingredient (or else list them briefly here) I would appreciate it. Thanks!!
Originally Posted by eyestrain curly
http://naturallycurly2.com/phpBB/vie...iloxane#325026

http://naturallycurly2.com/phpBB/vie...iloxane#332509

Essentially, this silicone has smaller particle size so it can get under a raised cuticle easier. I tried a few products with it in the ingreds and shampoo didn't remove it alone. I had to use a clarifying poo. Flippit had to clarify several times in a row after a week of using cyclopentasiloxane. Unfortunately, some people don't have the immediate negative reaction and get a lot of buildup accumulated before the negative effects flair up, making it even harder to remove.

I personally have no problem with any other cones, even it's larger particle sized sibling cyclomethicone, but this one is horrible!
Honestly Laurabeth, it's the negative press here that's kept me away from it. I'm always looking for more natural products, since it's my toddler's hair I'm trying to find HGs for. I relaxed more after reading up on the resident cone article, but my curly hair type seems most forgiving when trying new things. However, just the thought of something clinging to my hair wash after wash, even if it's not noticeable, just seems unhealthy.

So thanks as always, for your chemical analysis. It's been a big help to me.
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Before I tried strict CG, one of my favorite products was Citre Shine Curl Crunch Curling Cream, which lists cyclopentasiloxane as the last ingredient. I was bummed to give that up. But, I had just bought some before I went CG. Now I am not full CG because I get overconditioned too easily. So I use the Citre Shine every once in a while (no more than 1x per month). I time it so that it is just before I need to clarify/DT. I have not had any problems. I actually used it today!
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THANKS Laurabeth for bumping those threads.. My hair does OK with cones - doesn't love them or crave them, but doesn't freak out or spazz if I use them.

I will continue my sporadic use of products with this cone and monitor to see if anything bad develops... Also, I'll continue my policy of trying to avoid it generally..
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I can't stand cyclopentasiloxane, and as far as I know, the feeling is pretty much mutual. For one thing, it has a silly name that follows no form of chemical nomenclature with which I am even vaguely familiar. I think it's basically a shortened form of its IUPAC name, which is even more ridiculously long than this one, but am uncertain. For another thing, it makes my hair an absolute mess.

About two years ago, when I first started styling my hair naturally, I happened to buy a conditioner with this hideous little ingredient in it (I didn't know any better; I hadn't taken any higher level chemistry and was not yet a member of the boards). It was Loreal's Curl Vive conditioner, which also contained potato starch (I'm sure that contributed to the problem as well). The first couple of times I used it, it detangled my hair nicely and made it feel slippery. Things quickly went downhill from there; I could pour half a bottle of that stuff onto my hair and the tangles would actually get worse. My hair started to become progressively more rough and frizzy, until I realized that the conditioner was total trash. I pitched that nightmare product in the trash and bought a better one; several clarifying shampoos later, I was finally free of that evil silicone. Most cheap drugstore conditioners contain it, so now I watch for it very carefully.
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Wow! The stories about this stuff get more and more !

Even if you've voiced your opinion about cyclopentasiloxane before, please vote!
I voted the first option. That particular silicone did for my hair what the Exxon Valdez did for the coast of Alaska, only with less consequence to the surrounding area's wildlife.
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Hate it! Evil!
3a/b, fine, lots of it
Hate it! I tried some new styling products w/ this ingred. because I'd heard good things about them from friends & the PJ in me couldn't resist. Well, I used them for about a week and didn't like their performance. Then for the next few weeks my hair kept getting dryer & frizzier, even though I went right back to my CG ways. Then I read laurabeth's thread on this cone. I clarified with a SLS poo & my hair & curls/waves came right back!
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It's OK once in a while, and gives me the illusion of soft hair. Too many uses in a row and I get a dry plastic-y feeling, but that's true with any cones, for me. Build-up comes off my hair pretty easily in general though, including this one. Often just an ACV rinse or a couple of conditioner washings will do it, and any shampoo will remove it immediately. I have coarse, thick strands.

Other cones: Amodimethicone alone in a product will usually give me the dry plastic-y feeling after one use (i.e. it's worse for me than cyclopentasiloxane), but if it's combined with other cones it's ok (probably just less of it in the mix). Cyclomethicone and dimethicone give nice shine and feel, and I use a serum containing both on occasion, but they can make my hair dry over too many uses in a row.
It's OK once in a while, and gives me the illusion of soft hair. Too many uses in a row and I get a dry plastic-y feeling, but that's true with any cones, for me. Build-up comes off my hair pretty easily in general though, including this one. Often just an ACV rinse or a couple of conditioner washings will do it, and any shampoo will remove it immediately. I have coarse, thick strands.

Other cones: Amodimethicone alone in a product will usually give me the dry plastic-y feeling after one use (i.e. it's worse for me than cyclopentasiloxane), but if it's combined with other cones it's ok (probably just less of it in the mix). Cyclomethicone and dimethicone give nice shine and feel, and I use a serum containing both on occasion, but they can make my hair dry over too many uses in a row.
Originally Posted by blanclila
Interesting observation. I bet it makes it a lot worse that cyclopentasiloxane is frequently the first ingred or first after water.
I don't know if I ever used anything containing the
cytopentoxieldfksentosenngoane
LOL (I love that, sirenrising!), but I avoid it because
of the comments/rants here
& because I don't use a sulfate shampoo but once a month.

So I voted for #2.

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