Hair won't curl - I give up

So terrible about the Fibro and the LymeD.
Originally Posted by echokitten
Oh no, that sucks! I'm so sorry. *hug*
Originally Posted by Koukla72
Y'all are so sweet! Thanks for your sympathy - it truly means a lot to me.

The ideas of plopping and diffusing through gauze fabric or a cap are excellent! I never thought of that before. I have some gauzy scarves that might work. I'm thinking something like that might even work to sleep in overnight so I could wash my hair before bed instead of in the morning. Maybe scrunching my hair up in a scarf/cap would keep it from getting the awful cowlicks I usually get after sleeping on my hair. Oooh, my hubby is in for a treat! I should get a green overnight mud mask for my face, too, and scare him to death.

What awesome brainstormers and problem-solvers you are!!
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Oooh, my hubby is in for a treat! I should get a green overnight mud mask for my face, too, and scare him to death.
Originally Posted by FuzzyMonster
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Just wanted to throw my two cent in!

Conditioning--My roots easily get overconditioned and weighed down, but the length of my hair needs something alot more moisturizing than Suave or VO5. So, I alternate cowashing with VO5 and using a sulfate-free shampoo (on the scalp only) and always use a richer conditioner on the rest of my hair. Currently I'm using Original Aussie 3MM and NG Persimmon and Rose Geranium. I usually leave in enough conditioner that my hair feels somewhat slimy. It did take me some experimenting to figure this out though!
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Just wanted to throw my two cent in!

Conditioning--My roots easily get overconditioned and weighed down, but the length of my hair needs something alot more moisturizing than Suave or VO5. So, I alternate cowashing with VO5 and using a sulfate-free shampoo (on the scalp only) and always use a richer conditioner on the rest of my hair. Currently I'm using Original Aussie 3MM and NG Persimmon and Rose Geranium. I usually leave in enough conditioner that my hair feels somewhat slimy. It did take me some experimenting to figure this out though!
Originally Posted by Brown_Eyed_Girl
Thanks for your two cents!

Hmmm, that's interesting. When you say you leave enough conditioner in that your hair feels slimy - you do mean you don't rinse the conditioner out at all? And you leave that just on your length? Do you have fine or coarse hair?

I think I need to get away from cowashing everyday - thanks to everyone's suggestion - so today I tried just water washing. My hair is a big poof ball today and I don't know if it was from that or from the new creme styler I'm trying. I guess I need to experiment using the scientific method and only change one thing at a time.

Anyway, I never thought of leaving in that much conditioner. Interesting thought.
Mostly 2A; Fine and wavy
Fuzzy,
When I water wash, which is about 4 out of 7 days, I still use a leave in. Since you have finer hair I would try using you lightest leave in co, cut even further with water. Or even yet, make it into a spray. I do this with either Jessicurl WDT or with SheaM but my hair is pretty thick.
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Hi you guys, which vo5 conditioner do you recommend??
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Just wanted to throw my two cent in!

Conditioning--My roots easily get overconditioned and weighed down, but the length of my hair needs something alot more moisturizing than Suave or VO5. So, I alternate cowashing with VO5 and using a sulfate-free shampoo (on the scalp only) and always use a richer conditioner on the rest of my hair. Currently I'm using Original Aussie 3MM and NG Persimmon and Rose Geranium. I usually leave in enough conditioner that my hair feels somewhat slimy. It did take me some experimenting to figure this out though!
Originally Posted by Brown_Eyed_Girl
Thanks for your two cents!

Hmmm, that's interesting. When you say you leave enough conditioner in that your hair feels slimy - you do mean you don't rinse the conditioner out at all? And you leave that just on your length? Do you have fine or coarse hair?

I think I need to get away from cowashing everyday - thanks to everyone's suggestion - so today I tried just water washing. My hair is a big poof ball today and I don't know if it was from that or from the new creme styler I'm trying. I guess I need to experiment using the scientific method and only change one thing at a time.

Anyway, I never thought of leaving in that much conditioner. Interesting thought.
Originally Posted by FuzzyMonster
My hair is medium, but it's longer which may have to do with needing alot more on the length. Usually I massage the VO5 into my scalp, the Aussie on the length and let those sit while I do my other shower things. Then I rinse those out. I put some Suave (lighter than the Aussie) on the length and finger comb it in, and rinse a teeny bit with cold water or ACV.

When you water washed today, did you condition the length at all?
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Hi you guys, which vo5 conditioner do you recommend??
Originally Posted by Yomini
I've tried Vanilla Mint Tea and Kiwi Lime. I like them both, but I like the smell of the VM Tea better. It smells good enough to eat!
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Since you have finer hair I would try using you lightest leave in co, cut even further with water. Or even yet, make it into a spray.
Originally Posted by echokitten
Funny you should say that - I was just thinking the other day that I ought to try diluting my conditioner. I will definitely try that as a leave in.

When you water washed today, did you condition the length at all?
Originally Posted by Brown_Eyed_Girl
No, I didn't. Since people were suggesting that my hair might be overconditioned, I wanted to see if I needed to skip conditioning once in a while. I don't think it helped.

What I'm going to do now is start changing one thing at a time and see which things help my hair to curl the most without causing frizz. Today I tried LOOB for the first time, and it really did the trick! I used it under BRHG. I had quite a bit more curl AND slightly more frizz than what I get with BRHG alone. With my previous routine with just the BRHG as a styler, I didn't have any frizz, but my hair wasn't curling hardly at all. So this is definitely progress!!!

I just edited this to add that you all have been so great to listen to my sob story and help me through my frustration. It's nice to have a hair support group!
Mostly 2A; Fine and wavy
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It's hard to try just one thing at a time, but that really is the best approach. I like LOOB too, it really helps my hair curl.

The reason I was asking about the water-washing is that if washing with water only left your hair poofy, you could try next water washing the scalp, but conditioning the length. (So many things to try, so little time...)
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