Hair won't curl - I give up

I'm getting very discouraged and starting to think I don't truly have curly hair. More than one stylist has gotten my hair to curl beautifully using the diffuser, but I can't get it to curl as nicely myself. I'm starting to think that if it takes so much work to make it curly, it's not really my natural state at all.

I don't know what I expect anyone to say - I guess I'm wondering if anyone else has been there, and what did you do? I guess I just need to accept what my hair is and isn't.
Mostly 2A; Fine and wavy
I'm in your corner today, my hair sucks! I fussed with it too much this am, so now it's ick! I'm tempted to shower just so I can start all over and I NEVER do that.

One thing that always helps me is...when I give up the EXPECTATION of having curly, curly hair and just enjoy my waves that spiral in various areas, I'm happier than when I wish my hair would consistently curl more. Relish in the shine you might have or the body that straighties will never know. Be happy that you might not have a cowlick in the back that looks like a bald spot, stress over it less and it'll respond better (this is very hard to do). Hope some of this helps.

Hang in there.
2b/3a.
Okay, take a deep breath and don't give up. What products have you tried? Both re:coil and JCRR are good curl enhancers for me. Also are you scrunching your products in soaking wet hair? Are you plopping? Tell us your routine and products and maybe we can brainstorm some solutions.
3A; I have HG products!
Curl enhancer: Mop-C curl cream
DT: Deva Heaven in Hair; JC WDT
Gel: B&A; Arc Angel
Conditioner: Deva OneC; JC too shea
Frizz fighters: CK, JCS C&S
PW: curlynow
...when I give up the EXPECTATION of having curly, curly hair and just enjoy my waves...
Originally Posted by CurlyinColorado
Yes, that's definitely what I need to do!

Be happy that you might not have a cowlick in the back that looks like a bald spot...
Originally Posted by CurlyinColorado
I do have that cowlick - ha ha! Seriously, thanks for the encouragement!
Mostly 2A; Fine and wavy
Okay, take a deep breath and don't give up. What products have you tried? Both re:coil and JCRR are good curl enhancers for me. Also are you scrunching your products in soaking wet hair? Are you plopping? Tell us your routine and products and maybe we can brainstorm some solutions.
Originally Posted by rejoicingcurlygirl
Ah, OK (breathing). Here is my routine:

I cowash daily with V05 VitaBurst conditioner.
About every 2 days, I add honey to that conditioner.
Once a week, I wash with V05 Kiwi & Lime conditioner.
About once a month, I shampoo with Jessicurl Gentle Lather Shampoo.

After rinsing my hair, I turn my head upside down and detangle with my fingers.
Scrunch it with a microfiber towel.
Scrunch in Biosilk Rock Hard Gelee.
Scrunch more with a microfiber towel until it's no longer dripping.
I diffuse for about 3 minutes and let air dry the rest of the way.
After about 45 minutes, I turn my head upside down and scrunch.

Thank you for brainstorming!
Mostly 2A; Fine and wavy
I'm going to be interested in what everyone else has to say, because I think you have a good routine. The only thing I can think of that might be happening is overconditioning. BUT, I could be way off the mark there.
When was the last time you had a trim? My hair gets freaky if I don't trim it up a bit every 3 or 4 months.
2b/3a.
When was the last time you had a trim?
Originally Posted by CurlyinColorado
My last trim was a month ago (August 16th).
Mostly 2A; Fine and wavy
The only thing I can think of that might be happening is overconditioning.
Originally Posted by CurlyinColorado
Lol! I was gonna say, gee, don't you need to do more conditioning?!
I don't CO-wash every day, maybe every 2-3 days, but I use much richer stuff on my hair than VO5. I like VO5 COs only for co-washiing -- I don't find them moisturizing at all. I have just wavy hair, and I do wish it were curlier, but I am getting much better wave action and loose spirals, not to mention much more shine & less frizz, by using rich COs, coconut oil, and DTs. I also diffuse most every time, and I find LOOB is helpful for enhancing/clumping. I've tried Re:coil but I'm not sure it's working for me yet.
2-something? Coarse, medium underneath. Mid-back. On CG since 5/9/07.
Washing COs: VO5 Blackberry, Suave Cherry
Detangle and leave-in: Sally's GVP Conditioning Balm -- I found my HG CO!
Seal with camellia oil
Leave-in: Aura cherry almond
Gels: Homemade FSG, Eco-styler
Plus: SOTC or smooth with camellia oil, JC Nourish & Shine
Homemade food-based DTs
RC color
Waaayy off the mark, yeah Rozetta's here to reply to this thread!
2b/3a.
My only suggestion to your routine is to not scrunch with MF towel before you put the gel in. If I scrunched with a towel before putting in gel I would only get slight waves! I can a lot more near curly if I scrunch in gel immediately after rinsing out conditioner...and I do mean immediately. Hope that's of some help! Plus, I'm finding that if I finger comb my hair before scrunching it loosens up the curl (or wave) pattern.
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Well have faith in the fact that if you can get your hair to curl at all then you do in fact have curly hair. You just need to find the right products and maybe repair some of the damage.
Lol! I was gonna say, gee, don't you need to do more conditioning?!
... I am getting much better wave action and loose spirals, not to mention much more shine & less frizz, by using rich COs, coconut oil, and DTs.
Originally Posted by RozettaStone
Sorry, I don't understand - are you being sarcastic? Do you mean I'm conditioning too much? I thought the CG book says to use conditioner every day. What I mean when I said I cowash every day is that I massage my scalp (if I don't, it gets yukky). Is that what you mean? I'm cowashing too much?

What are some examples the rich conditioners you recommend? I can't use oils because they weigh my hair down and make it greasy.

My only suggestion to your routine is to not scrunch with MF towel before you put the gel in.
Originally Posted by aaa00a
If you put the gel in before scrunching with the towel, doesn't it pull a lot of the gel out?

Thanks for brainstorming with me - I appreciate all of your ideas although I'm sure I sound frustrated because I am!!! (Not frustrated with you - but with my hair!)
Mostly 2A; Fine and wavy
My only suggestion to your routine is to not scrunch with MF towel before you put the gel in. If I scrunched with a towel before putting in gel I would only get slight waves! I can a lot more near curly if I scrunch in gel immediately after rinsing out conditioner...and I do mean immediately. Hope that's of some help! Plus, I'm finding that if I finger comb my hair before scrunching it loosens up the curl (or wave) pattern.
Originally Posted by aaa00a
I agree with this. I'm no expert, but since I started squishing product into soaking wet hair I cannot believe the curls I'm getting. Read more about it in this thread: http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlta...light=#1271384. It might be worth a try.
Couple of inches past shoulder length 3A. Shampoo every 3rd or 4th day w/ baby shampoo; Tigi Fashionista conditioner; back to Condition 3-in-1 mousse . Alternate days water rinse, conditioner and mousse.

If you put the gel in before scrunching with the towel, doesn't it pull a lot of the gel out?
Originally Posted by FuzzyMonster
Not really. Especially not with BRHG. I scrunch Angell (which has a really light hold) into sopping wet hair and then scrunch with a MF towel and still get plenty of crunch to scrunch out.
VERY fine 2B/3A hair
Chin-length - growing it out...again.
I believe Rozetta means to suggest that you might try using a more moisturizing conditioner, i.e. Aloeba, Too Shea, EMBC, in addition to the daily co you're currently doing. She's being sarcastic because I recommended the exact opposite *duh on me

2b/3a.
Y'all put the gel in then scrunch? See I scrunch with a t-shirt first then put gel. My hair turns out pretty curly as it is. I'll have to try it the other way.
I see that you are detangling with your fingers after you rinse. That could be breaking up your curls. Instead, try combing your condish through, rinse upside and DON'T TOUCH until you scrunch that gel in. You may also want to add a curl enhancing product like re:coil prior to the gel to help.
In DESPERATE need of a haircut.
I see that you are detangling with your fingers after you rinse. That could be breaking up your curls. Instead, try combing your condish through, rinse upside and DON'T TOUCH until you scrunch that gel in. You may also want to add a curl enhancing product like re:coil prior to the gel to help.
Originally Posted by Fearnotsomuch
ITA with this, the finger detangling was the first thing I noticed as a potential problem. Try this:
Detangle while hair is loaded with co
Rinse out co
Flip upside down, lightly press hair onto scalp to squeeze out some water(like plopping without the towel)
Try raking in these products at the scalp and squishing it in the ends
so you don't break up curls
leave in or curl enhancer (prob both)
gel over that
squish out excess water (yes you'll lose some product, but not a lot)
plop/scrunch
diffuse as needed --no touching with hands until the gel is set.
Cincinnati Ohio>>>Coarse protein sensitive 3a, Jessicurl WDT as a leave in, Biotera gel, White Boots, PW= coffeecurls

"Man tries to exaggerate what nature has given him," Charles Darwin (1809-1882).

"Nothing makes a woman more beautiful than the belief that she is beautiful." -Sophia Loren
I believe Rozetta means to suggest that you might try using a more moisturizing conditioner, i.e. Aloeba, Too Shea, EMBC, in addition to the daily co you're currently doing. She's being sarcastic because I recommended the exact opposite *duh on me

Originally Posted by CurlyinColorado
Oh, I see. Thanks for the clarification! Haha that is funny.

I can't use Aloeba or Too Shea - I tried them and they made my hair a greasy mess. What's EMBC? Or something else that doesn't have oil or protein?
Mostly 2A; Fine and wavy
Fearnotsomuch and echokitten - great advice. I'll try it.

RosettaStone, can you share some of the more moisturizing conditioners that have worked for you? I can't use oil or protein. I've tried Too Shea, Aloeba, and NG Aloe.

Linda, that's a great thread. Thanks for posting it.
Mostly 2A; Fine and wavy

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