Newbie need help with very wavy hair with straight top

I read CG a few months back and was so excited to give it a try. I still have yet to find good conditioner that doesn't make my scalp greasy. My 2 dds have the same problem (they are 9 and 12). We have gotten more wave and curl, but the greasy scalp is gross to us.

We wash 2x a week and have tried the lemon juice rinse.

I have a question as to our type of hair. We all have VERY wavy hair underneath with a layer of almost straight hair on the top. Will that straight layer ever turn wavy to match the rest? My one dd has shoulder length hair all one length and HATES the way her hair looks doing this routine since her waves really come in but that top layer of straight makes it look messy and dirty. Her color is medium brown.

Are we just made to have both types of hair or does it have to do with the treatment we have been giving it for so long? We have been trying this for 3 months now and it isn't much better.

Also my 12 yodd gets incredibly horrible dandruff and greasy scalp. I am making her use ACV and she hates that. ALthough I gave it to her straight and read on here we should dilute it. Any other thoughts on how to get rid of that dandruff and build up?

thank you so much,
Use plain old fashioned Listerine on a cotton ball down the hair parted a few times, great for dandruff. Dandruff is caused by a fugus and Listerine is anti-microbacetrial.
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Have you tried V05 Kiwi & Lime Conditioner? It's a really good clarifying conditioner. Really scrub your scalp with it!

Also have you tried clipping at the roots to get the top to wave up? I know without clips the top of my hair is flat and straight.
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I must clip the canopy to get any waves there. I clip and then make a few random pin curls with my finger and clip those along with the roots. It works great.
I do not agree to scrub the scalp well; over scrubbing the scalp or any other area will stimulate more oil production. As the dandruff is a condition of an oily scalp and the a yeast-like organisim called pityrosporum-ovle. scrubbing will worsen that condition and increase the oil.
All of us have a low amount of pityrosporum-ovle, when the numbers are high due to stress, diet. weather and or health conditions, dandruff occurs.
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Did y'all clarify before you started CG to make sure you got rid of all buildup? Also, you say you wash 2X a week -- are you talking about co-washing or shampoo? The CG book does say that it's ok for wavies to shampoo once a week as long you put conditioner on the ends, so maybe your hair needs a gentle pooing once in awhile. Clipping the roots and/or plopping might also help with getting curl on the top.
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thanks for replies.
When I say "wash" I meant shampoo. I have had a difficult time going less than that for all of us.
I do do the clips for me and it seems to help, but they sort of make the "wave" frizzy.

We did not clarify before starting, maybe we should have- what could we do to do that? Just lemon juice or a clarifying shampoo?

thanks again
Is this VO5 clarifying shampoo safe to use in your everyday CO wash?

Also, if you use lots of get products to keep the wave in all day, how do you wash it out daily to not get build up? Is CO alone supposed to do the trick? it seems to not for us?
thanks for replies.
When I say "wash" I meant shampoo. I have had a difficult time going less than that for all of us.
I do do the clips for me and it seems to help, but they sort of make the "wave" frizzy.

We did not clarify before starting, maybe we should have- what could we do to do that? Just lemon juice or a clarifying shampoo?

thanks again
Originally Posted by madewavy
I'm "modified" CG & haven't used the lemon juice, so can't answer to that. Someone who is strictly CG might chime in here and give you better recommendations. For me personally, I would use clarifying shampoo to make sure I got rid of all and any buildup.
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thanks msgiblet,
Do you regularly use clarifying shampoo to keep it from happening or just before you begin to follow CG?
thanks
If you're going strictly CG, a lot of people use the shampoo at the very beginning to get rid of buildup before starting. I tend to get buildup very easily, so I use a sulfate shampoo about once every 2 weeks and low poo about 2-3 times a week, depending on my hair. But again, I'm not strictly CG.

You might want to check out the "Going Shampooless" board for some helpful advice and suggestions.
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Is this VO5 clarifying shampoo safe to use in your everyday CO wash?

Also, if you use lots of get products to keep the wave in all day, how do you wash it out daily to not get build up? Is CO alone supposed to do the trick? it seems to not for us?
Originally Posted by madewavy

The VO5 Kiwi & Lime Clarifying is a conditioner, not a shampoo. As far as using it everyday, you'll have to experiment. I found it too drying, but I know some curlies do use it everyday with no problem.

If you're using products without cones, or at least using cones that are water soluble, CO-washing alone should remove them.
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Any shampoo w/ sulfates will clarify...no need to buy an expensive one.
The Vo5 conditioners smell awesome and would be good for a Conditioner Only (CO) cleansing. They get rave reviews in the LHC.
As ya'll have oily scalps, I'd avoid direct scalp application of conditioner, just use a diluted condish/ water scalp massage to cleanse the scalp and plenty of condish on the ends.
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Your hair sounds overconditioned. When you add too many products to curly hair, it ends up much like what you are describing. Try a clarifying agent (theres a good one by Deva) to get rid of all that grease that is weighing your hair down.

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