Scrunching & hair breakage

Is it possible scrunching out a styler contributes to hair breakage?
I have not noticed scrunching to cause any damage. I scrunch lightly and treat my hair gently. I've noticed more damage from brushing and bad products than scrunching. I'm sure it's okay if you are gentle on your hair.
3B with some 3a. Fell off but am now back on the CG bandwagon and looking for my HG products.
I'm thinking you're on to something! I just asked about my hair breaking off (little pieces sticking out of the top of my head) a few days ago. I think maybe I'm too rough when scrunching, or maybe my nails ( not that they're that long), may be causing the hair to break. But i don't want to cut my nails Too bad they don't have microfiber gloves to help scrunch hair! WAIT !!! maybe I'm on to something......
2c/3a

Worrying is like being in a rocking chair; it gives me something to do but it doesn't get me anywhere.

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Shea moisture leave-in and BRHG
No advice, but this is just something that I have always wondered. Scrunching from the ends up = roughing up the cuticle...I have pondered this often! I'm sure gentleness does play a part though, sometimes I can tend to scrunch hard
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3b/a
Cowash - No Poo, Suave Coconut
Conditioner - One Condition
Leave In - KCKT
Gel - KCCC at the moment
I ask because of this bit of history:

I have breakage in the back underneath that my new stylist found in Sept.

She wondered if it was due to scrunchies worn over night, or if it's just the way my hair grows in that area.

I've worn them on/off since some time around their inception.

I rotated between cotton & satin pillow cases since becoming a member.

It was then that I even rotated between a regular towel & micro fiber towel to dry my hair.

I wasn't told of breakage until she did my hair. Either other stylists weren't telling me about it, they didn't notice it or I didn't have it.

But I wasn't a user of hard core stylers or a scruncher until a yr or more after becoming a nc.com member.

I only used mousse & leave-in conditioner before then.

I am a hard scruncher, but all over my head.

I have the same problem. But I highly doubt it is because of scrunching. I think that (at least in my case) it's from the protein conditioners that I used to us...and perhaps I'm not conditioning that part well enough. I did notice today when i washed my hair that I didn't really pay that much attention to the back portion...where it is all out of sync with the rest of my hair. I think it's a combination of residual protein usage and not conditioning well enough back there. I find I pay more attention to the portion's of my hair that you see, and kind of subcontiously ignore the very back. I mean, I do use conditioner there, but I figure not enough. And perhaps have been a bit slack in the DT maybe not applying enough back there.

Just my thoughts on the matter.
But I put loads of conditioner on the area that has the breakage.

Ok...
Maybe that part is protein sensitive. I know that some areas of my hair are protein sensitive and some aren't. Just a thought.
I'd switch products - your conditioners. Try some without any proteins.
I'm really loving a condish made by Steiner. I found out about it by another curly here on the board. You have to order it on line tho. I use the S.O.S repair and relief deep conditioner. They have a regular (daily) one as well but the other user said she didn't like the daily one as well.
You don't need much of this stuff. I use it daily. When I don't shampoo - just rinse, I use a tiny pea size amount. It is very thick and creamy. It doesn't have a real slip feel but I never tangle with it either.
I get a pea size amount, rub it in my palms and then run thru my hair and rinse out.
There's a reason why your hair is breaking. It could be from the scrunchies -- I know you were sleeping on those. But I think if you get your hair healthy again, you might not have that problem with the scrunchies.
I'm thinking it may be from a product or products you are using right now.
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Natural hair color - dark brunette
Fine, thinish hair/3a, 3b
I know it's a protein when it says wheat or whatever-protein. But otherwise I'm stumped. Is there an article about what to look for?

But if I had protein sensitivity, wouldn't my hair feel dry & be puffy? It's not



ETA 1: I just looked on the two conditioners (Herbal Essence Hello Hydration & Aussie Moist) I've been using for over a month & each has extracts only.

One conditioner has Vanilla Planifolia Fruit Extract & Cocos Nucifera Milk (Coconut).

The other has ecklonia radiata (australian sea kelp) extract, simmondsia chinensis (jojoba) seed oil & aloe barbadensis leaf juice extract.

ETA 2: I found this, but that's about all so far. http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlco...s.php?id=10471 I don't see any amino acids, hydrolyzed-anything, nor polypeptide-anything in the ingredients lists.
BUMP

??? - Please see my previous reply.

I also have other questions:

I have a couple of products that contain protein that make my hair dry & crispy. So I should assume the feeling is from the protein in the product? I think I tried using a leave-in conditioner, jojoba oil or "moisturizing" styler underneath the original styler that didn't work to combat the dryness.

Yet I've had other stylers that didn't contain protein that made my hair dry & crispy too. I ended up getting rid of them because I did use a leave-in conditioner, jojoba oil or a "moisturizing" styler underneath the original styler & it didn't work to combat the dryness.

And I think I had conditioners that contained protein that didn't make my hair dry & crispy.

It doesn't have to be the protein.

Sometimes it's just the ingredients in the formula that give it hold (e.g. PVP) or especially a gel, the actual jelling agent (e.g. carbomer) that can give your hair a hard or dry feeling. But that's not necessarily because the gel itself is drying you out, it's just the way the gel "casing" forms around your strands-most gels that have any hold to speak of are likely to dry crunchy after you use a certain amount.

SwirlCurly Chemist touched on the stiffness/dullness point in this article, towards the middle:

http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlco...es.php?id=8821
It doesn't have to be the protein.

Sometimes it's just the ingredients in the formula that give it hold (e.g. PVP) or especially a gel, the actual jelling agent (e.g. carbomer) that can give your hair a hard or dry feeling. But that's not necessarily because the gel itself is drying you out, it's just the way the gel "casing" forms around your strands-most gels that have any hold to speak of are likely to dry crunchy after you use a certain amount.

SwirlCurly Chemist touched on the dryness/dullness point in this article, towards the middle:

http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlco...es.php?id=8821
Originally Posted by jeamaria
I know about that, but what I felt was after getting rid of the stiff crunchy feeling of the gel; after scrunching such out. It was like using a styler that contains isopropyl alcohol as the first ingredient.
I'm bumping this again because there's a question about hard-bodied gels & hair breakage on the reviews board on the Alagio thread that's got my interest.

http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlta...300656#1300656

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