Having a really hard time dealing with protein sensitivity

I've come to the conclusion that I am sensitive to proteins.

I used to use LA Looks gel, and was pleased with the results as far as: good clumping, good hold. Obviously due to the proteins I had dryness and friziness.

So now I'm using Biotera gel and Biotera curl creme. The gel doesn't have much hold, and my curls are stringy! Also, I diffuse as usual but have literally NO VOLUME. And still a bit of surface frizz.

Any other protein sensitive girls who can recommend some products? I'd love to have something I can buy at Sallys or Walmart/Target. Preferably no 'cones, or water-soluble ones.

Thanks in advance ... you girls rock!

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I just (today, actually) realized that I may be protein-sensitive, too. After about a week and a half with Elucence shampoo and condish, my hair is really dry and frizzy and refuses to curl well, so I'm thinking the wheat protein and Brewer's yeast in the two are taking their toll on my hair.

So I think I have the opposite problem? I personally use CK, HE SMU gel, and SiF as my stylers, and I really like them. I believe they're all 'cone- and protein-free. You can find the SMU in most drug stores.

And so I pose the same question to you: what are you using in the shower? (:
Location: North NJ or NYC
I use Nature's Gate Aloe condish ... it has a questionable ingredient: barley extract. Not sure if this is a protein, but I've been using it for over a month with good results, and still have good results with it now that I've stopped using gel with protein. I buy mine at my local health food store, it's only like $4!

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Wait, are you saying that the Biotera Styling Gel has been giving you protein issues? I don't remember there being any proteins in it...

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I use Nature's Gate Aloe condish ... it has a questionable ingredient: barley extract. Not sure if this is a protein, but I've been using it for over a month with good results, and still have good results with it now that I've stopped using gel with protein. I buy mine at my local health food store, it's only like $4!
Originally Posted by thataliciagirl
The barley that one eats contains 23 grams of protein per cup, so I guess the extract may have some. If it works for you, I wouldn't worry about it.
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Wait, are you saying that the Biotera Styling Gel has been giving you protein issues? I don't remember there being any proteins in it...
Originally Posted by asleep to audio
no no no, it's not giving me protein issues. the gel and curl creme are what I've switched to for protein free stuff. I just have limp, stringy curls since switching to protein free products

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Wait, are you saying that the Biotera Styling Gel has been giving you protein issues? I don't remember there being any proteins in it...
Originally Posted by asleep to audio
no no no, it's not giving me protein issues. the gel and curl creme are what I've switched to for protein free stuff. I just have limp, stringy curls since switching to protein free products
Originally Posted by thataliciagirl
OH! Okay. So I'm not going crazy.

Have you tried putting your hair in a braid or bun while drying? That gives me clumpier curls.

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Wait, are you saying that the Biotera Styling Gel has been giving you protein issues? I don't remember there being any proteins in it...
Originally Posted by asleep to audio
no no no, it's not giving me protein issues. the gel and curl creme are what I've switched to for protein free stuff. I just have limp, stringy curls since switching to protein free products
Originally Posted by thataliciagirl
OH! Okay. So I'm not going crazy.

Have you tried putting your hair in a braid or bun while drying? That gives me clumpier curls.
Originally Posted by asleep to audio
I plop for 20 mins, then diffuse for 10-ish ... don't think my hair is long enough to braid, but I might try the bun idea!

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I use Nature's Gate Aloe condish ... it has a questionable ingredient: barley extract. Not sure if this is a protein, but I've been using it for over a month with good results, and still have good results with it now that I've stopped using gel with protein. I buy mine at my local health food store, it's only like $4!
Originally Posted by thataliciagirl
The barley that one eats contains 23 grams of protein per cup, so I guess the extract may have some. If it works for you, I wouldn't worry about it.
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
rcc! where have you been? I noticed you haven't posted in almost a month and I always love to have your input.

as for the topic at hand, I agree with the above
I'm very protein sensitive and I easily get weighted down or stringy curls if I'm not careful. I've been using HE SMU.
When I first started using it, I didn't like it. Everyone kept telling me to scrunch. I guess I thought that wouldn't do any good. I finally tried it and it worked! The key is to scrunch. I diffuse til 1/2 dry and let it "rest" then I turn upside down and scrunch then right side up and scrunch some more, then diffuse more and I get tons of body and good curl formation.
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I'm very protein sensitive and I easily get weighted down or stringy curls if I'm not careful. I've been using HE SMU.
When I first started using it, I didn't like it. Everyone kept telling me to scrunch. I guess I thought that wouldn't do any good. I finally tried it and it worked! The key is to scrunch. I diffuse til 1/2 dry and let it "rest" then I turn upside down and scrunch then right side up and scrunch some more, then diffuse more and I get tons of body and good curl formation.
Originally Posted by Darby
Thanks, Darby! I was hoping you'd reply, 'cause I've noticed by reading lots of posts that you are protein sensitive. With HE SMU, do you rake or scrunch in? With my routine, I do a bit of both ... just wondering if that would work with this gel.

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I scrunch, too. But that's really easy to do for me, since my hair is so short. I try not to rake with SMU because it's so thick, I feel like I'm permanently separating curls if I put my fingers through them.
Location: North NJ or NYC
I really like the SMU also.

I love my KCCC, but that's not a brick-and-mortar option.
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Thanks, Darby! I was hoping you'd reply, 'cause I've noticed by reading lots of posts that you are protein sensitive. With HE SMU, do you rake or scrunch in? With my routine, I do a bit of both ... just wondering if that would work with this gel.
Originally Posted by thataliciagirl
I only scrunch. If I raked, I'd lose curl formation and I would end up all stringy.
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Natural hair color - dark brunette
Fine, thinish hair/3a, 3b
I use Nature's Gate Aloe condish ... it has a questionable ingredient: barley extract. Not sure if this is a protein, but I've been using it for over a month with good results, and still have good results with it now that I've stopped using gel with protein. I buy mine at my local health food store, it's only like $4!
Originally Posted by thataliciagirl
The barley that one eats contains 23 grams of protein per cup, so I guess the extract may have some. If it works for you, I wouldn't worry about it.
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
rcc! where have you been? I noticed you haven't posted in almost a month and I always love to have your input.

as for the topic at hand, I agree with the above
Originally Posted by keikok
I got distracted checking out the Long Hair Community. I missed my curly buddies though! It's easier to talk product here, but I've gotten nice ideas there too.

So many hidden proteins... bah.
Kiva! Microfinance works.

Med/Coarse, porous curly.
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I use Nature's Gate Aloe condish ... it has a questionable ingredient: barley extract. Not sure if this is a protein, but I've been using it for over a month with good results, and still have good results with it now that I've stopped using gel with protein. I buy mine at my local health food store, it's only like $4!
Originally Posted by thataliciagirl
The barley that one eats contains 23 grams of protein per cup, so I guess the extract may have some. If it works for you, I wouldn't worry about it.
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
rcc! where have you been? I noticed you haven't posted in almost a month and I always love to have your input.

as for the topic at hand, I agree with the above
Originally Posted by keikok
I got distracted checking out the Long Hair Community. I missed my curly buddies though! It's easier to talk product here, but I've gotten nice ideas there too.

So many hidden proteins... bah.
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
I know what you mean. I've been to the long hair care forums (I dont know if its the same thing) and got some interesting info although a lot of it was from people who relax their hair. I've been coming on here a lot lately because I shampooed my hair a lot last week and now I'm paying for it.
I gave up on the gels - I just get stringy, too.
I have found I'm curliest with just a bit of coconut oil and maybe plopping for a short time. Boring, but it works better!
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I like BRHG, it is a great, strong holding gel. I am protein sensitive too, but it doesn't bother me. It has....hold on let me check...hydrolyzed silk (a protein, right?) way at the end of the ingredient list. I use this stuff at least 4 times a week and it doesn't cause me any protein dryness or build-up. I usually water it down a little because my hair is fine, and I get great curl formation from it.

You should try it!

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