If everyone answers we will set a record!

I agree with Spiderlashes' post about the CG routine. As we all know from this board, curly hair, even with a similar pattern, is not the same. I would say I am modified CG. I don't use sulfate shampoos because they do tend to make my hair dry. My conditioner --JC Too Shea-- does not contain silicones. I have used conditioners with cones and my hair is fine, but I find that my hair responds better to JC because of the lotion-like consistency of it. I sometimes use a styling product--BB Curly Frizz Pudding--which does not contain silicones.
I have tried the CG routine in the past, but it does horrible things for me. I have a naturally oily scalp and hair that tends to collect build-up quickly. Plus I never brush my hair. The top part of my hair looked coated and greasy and after about three days of not shampooing my hair begins to frizz. Btw, I use JC Hair Cleansing cream and typically use a light layer of olive oil/rosemary oil as a styling product.
3b/c, medium-coarse, low porosity, high density
HG: Jessicurl Too Shea and Kinky Curly Curling Custard
Shampoo: nonsulfate shampoo and Suave Naturals sulfate shampoo when needed
I agree with Spiderlashes' post about the CG routine. As we all know from this board, curly hair, even with a similar pattern, is not the same. I would say I am modified CG. I don't use sulfate shampoos because they do tend to make my hair dry. My conditioner --JC Too Shea-- does not contain silicones. I have used conditioners with cones and my hair is fine, but I find that my hair responds better to JC because of the lotion-like consistency of it. I sometimes use a styling product--BB Curly Frizz Pudding--which does not contain silicones.
Originally Posted by multicultcurly
What do you mean by lotion-like? Is this as opposed to creamy (i.e. lighter), or do you mean it's more emollient than other conditioners? TIA
Jeamaria -- I meant as in the feel of lotion. JC Too shea is thick and creamy. I would also say that the Dove Moisturizing conditioner has a similar feel and texture. I find that Too Shea is more moisturizing and heavier than most conditioners. Conditoners that are light and liquidy do not work for me. I need a lot of moisture and tend to use my conditioner as a styling product.
3b/c, medium-coarse, low porosity, high density
HG: Jessicurl Too Shea and Kinky Curly Curling Custard
Shampoo: nonsulfate shampoo and Suave Naturals sulfate shampoo when needed
I hardly ever shampoo my hair and I pay no attention to what is in my hair products. Currently I'm using VO5 mousse, Fruictis gel, BTZ Noodle Head, Redkin Curl Former, some shine stuff, and some other gel stuff. After reading this thread I thought maybe I might have build up and maybe a shampoo is in order. I used Jessiecurl cream cleanser and had a devil of a time getting all the shampoo out - it took forever and was a complete pain in the butt. I guess it really depends on hair type.
Originally Posted by papayahed
I agree with the bolded. I think it's also a matter of time, for some people buildup occurs within a matter of days, some people several months. How often do you define "hardly ever"?

Also, I was thinking maybe some people actually like the effect of the buildup on their hair. Especially with certain silicones, it might give a smoothing effect which products that rinse more cleanly might not be able to provide. So providing they rinse often enough/don't exceed a certain amount of product, maybe the build up is just enough to promote manageability, without causing gunky/suffocated/weighed down/greasy hair.
Originally Posted by jeamaria
I may have shampooed my hair 2-3 times this year.
Jeamaria -- I meant as in the feel of lotion. JC Too shea is thick and creamy. I would also say that the Dove Moisturizing conditioner has a similar feel and texture. I find that Too Shea is more moisturizing and heavier than most conditioners. Conditoners that are light and liquidy do not work for me. I need a lot of moisture and tend to use my conditioner as a styling product.
Originally Posted by multicultcurly
Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying.
I hardly ever shampoo my hair and I pay no attention to what is in my hair products. Currently I'm using VO5 mousse, Fruictis gel, BTZ Noodle Head, Redkin Curl Former, some shine stuff, and some other gel stuff. After reading this thread I thought maybe I might have build up and maybe a shampoo is in order. I used Jessiecurl cream cleanser and had a devil of a time getting all the shampoo out - it took forever and was a complete pain in the butt. I guess it really depends on hair type.
Originally Posted by papayahed
I agree with the bolded. I think it's also a matter of time, for some people buildup occurs within a matter of days, some people several months. How often do you define "hardly ever"?

Also, I was thinking maybe some people actually like the effect of the buildup on their hair. Especially with certain silicones, it might give a smoothing effect which products that rinse more cleanly might not be able to provide. So providing they rinse often enough/don't exceed a certain amount of product, maybe the build up is just enough to promote manageability, without causing gunky/suffocated/weighed down/greasy hair.
Originally Posted by jeamaria
I may have shampooed my hair 2-3 times this year.
Originally Posted by papayahed
Whatever works for you.
Adding another post!

I'm a wavie who has tried co-washing a few times and it did not work for me at all. I shampoo about every other day with a gentle shampoo, but I only use CG products with maybe a polyquaternium or two in my shampoo and/or gel. My hair hates silicones, though. From experience with many products, they never calmed my frizz well. Also, my hair has been shinier since I stopped using 'cones altogether.
2a/M-C/ii hair. Super long.
I am going through the SAME thing as you are! I have been surfing on this website for a couple of months now....but I haven't found anything that's made a drastic change in my curls. I tried the 'plunking' or 'plopping' method, but by the time I got my hair wrapped in my t-shirt, I had te worst pain in my neck. Granted, it DID look good ~ but took forEVER to get it in that stupid shirt. hehehe.

Have you found any solutions, or gotten any advice??

I don't even know how this message will help you ~ but maybe there's another curly out there with the same issue!!

shortyp

ps ~ is there anyone out there who's gotten the ingredients that us curlies are NOY supposed to use pretty much memorized?? There's SO much, I am scared to get ANY kind of shampoo/conditioner/product...
Jeamaria -- I meant as in the feel of lotion. JC Too shea is thick and creamy. I would also say that the Dove Moisturizing conditioner has a similar feel and texture. I find that Too Shea is more moisturizing and heavier than most conditioners. Conditoners that are light and liquidy do not work for me. I need a lot of moisture and tend to use my conditioner as a styling product.
Originally Posted by multicultcurly
Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying.
Originally Posted by jeamaria
She doesn't clarify!

LOL
3b (with 3c tendencies) on modified CG

Jeamaria -- I meant as in the feel of lotion. JC Too shea is thick and creamy. I would also say that the Dove Moisturizing conditioner has a similar feel and texture. I find that Too Shea is more moisturizing and heavier than most conditioners. Conditoners that are light and liquidy do not work for me. I need a lot of moisture and tend to use my conditioner as a styling product.
Originally Posted by multicultcurly
Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying.
Originally Posted by jeamaria
She doesn't clarify!

LOL
Originally Posted by spiderlashes5000
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I am going through the SAME thing as you are! I have been surfing on this website for a couple of months now....but I haven't found anything that's made a drastic change in my curls. I tried the 'plunking' or 'plopping' method, but by the time I got my hair wrapped in my t-shirt, I had te worst pain in my neck. Granted, it DID look good ~ but took forEVER to get it in that stupid shirt. hehehe.

Have you found any solutions, or gotten any advice??

I don't even know how this message will help you ~ but maybe there's another curly out there with the same issue!!

shortyp

ps ~ is there anyone out there who's gotten the ingredients that us curlies are NOY supposed to use pretty much memorized?? There's SO much, I am scared to get ANY kind of shampoo/conditioner/product...
Originally Posted by shortypagan
First, I would like to thank everyone who responded to my question, because everyone brought out many good points and points of view. It is true, there are so many degrees of waves and curls and thickness and porosity, etc. Why, caring for our hair has become rather scientific, in a good way.

ShortyP's post, in particular, made me laugh out loud, because I had reached the point where each time I went to the store, every single product I picked out had something in it that was not CG. I would walk around for a while with something in my hands and then go into a robot-like trance and put it back on the shelf. I was actually scared to buy or try anything. Quite over-reacting, wasn't I?

After much trial and error, for now at least, I've decided that my hair and scalp need shampoo and some silly-cones or I am just a giant frizzball (a very light and airy frizzball), but nevertheless,
chicken frizz-azee.

This is a separate topic, but, since my hair has a mind of its own, it frequently looks unkempt (spelling?). I was asking one woman I work with about hair color, as my hair is gray and I was contemplating doing something rash. Not only did she tell me I should "do something" as far as color, she said I should also go back to blow-drying and straightening it out. Let me tell ya, that made my day.
Now, I keep staring at my hair in the mirror, wondering, does everyone think it's ugly? Ah yes, I am having a wee-bit of low self-esteem here.

Nevertheless, for the health of my hair, for now, as nothing is written in stone, I am staying gray and curly. Hmph!

Good luck in your product search, shortypagan. I'll still be addicted to this website and be reading and posting about curly hair and products, both CG and not, because this is the only place a curly can really feel at home, and not like a fish out of water!
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okay i must be a total dork because i have no idea what record you are talking about, someone please tell me
Originally Posted by rejoicingcurlygirl
I meant setting a record for the most posts or answers to a topic (I didn't know how else to start off). You're not a dork at all!

This is a separate topic, but, since my hair has a mind of its own, it frequently looks unkempt (spelling?). I was asking one woman I work with about hair color, as my hair is gray and I was contemplating doing something rash. Not only did she tell me I should "do something" as far as color, she said I should also go back to blow-drying and straightening it out. Let me tell ya, that made my day.
Now, I keep staring at my hair in the mirror, wondering, does everyone think it's ugly? Ah yes, I am having a wee-bit of low self-esteem here.

Good luck in your product search, shortypagan. I'll still be addicted to this website and be reading and posting about curly hair and products, both CG and not, because this is the only place a curly can really feel at home, and not like a fish out of water!
Originally Posted by unpoof
First of all, do NOT take what that lady above said to you, to heart. Who knows what kind of mood she was in, if she just hates all curly hair, or just plain have issues. I have learned that if someone can say something like that without thinking and isn't a really good friend or caring family member that means you well....then that opinion is more of an insult and holds very little weight to me. Do not let that comment be your progressive undoing. I know you have been reading and trying things to make your curly hair look good and make you comfortable with who you are. People can only shake up a Coke bottle, if you let them. So, always love yourself and your curls. Because at the end of the day, I don't think you will lie to yourself and your curls won't lie to you either.

For every curly girl, there are products that work well for their particular hair whether you are all the way CG, a modified CG, or not practicing it at all. Be your hairs curl whisperer. If you try something and your hair doesn't like it, try it again differently or in a different combination, and then again mixing it up, before you write it off. It will save you time and money. Write things down and take a picture and will give you a solid idea of what your curls like and don't like. And then you will find out where you need to be as a curly girl. And you do what YOUR curls like.

If your hair disagrees with something that EVERYONE raves about, don't try to force your hair to like it. Like you said, "Nothing is written in stone." But keeping notes is the quickest way to have more good days from your hair. I have been journaling mine. And it has helped a lot. I learned that I am protein sensitive. No wonder my hair was very dry and straw-like. It could have saved me years of time and money had I known that. I spent years putting things in my hair trying to cure it, but ultimately it was making it worse. I learned a lot here from fellow curlies that you just can't get on your own. But it is to be used as a sounding and information board, but not as law.

For every head of curls, their is a different need and hair care regimen. This was just meant to aid you in finding yours easier and quicker.

Good luck my friend and keep coming back. We'll never know it all. Besides hair bumping gums is really fun!!

Peace, love, and NO grease!

-Nicki
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Lovemylocks: Very well said! EXCELLENT POST!
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Lovemylocks: Very well said! EXCELLENT POST!
Originally Posted by msgiblet
Awww thanks!!
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