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Old 01-04-2008, 10:51 AM   #1
 
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After looking at some holiday photos I've realized that my hair has been getting curlier since I started on a modified CG routine! Yay! I used to be able to use a pick or very wide toothed comb on my hair (comb a little here, a little there...) when it was dry to break up the wet look and the crunch.

Now I've realized that I can't really do that anymore without wrecking my curls. I don't have this problem with the Jessicurl products I use but I need guidance for when I experiment with other products. I just don't like to have any parts of my hair look stiff, wet or greasy as it can look if I don't do anything after it's dry. I was thinking maybe too much product but I've tried cutting back and I don't think that's it.

How exactly do you scrunch out the crunch? Is it the same motion as scrunching when wet? Is it more of a squeezing motion or a squeezing and rubbing your fingers together while squeezing? Is the rubbing bad for the hair? How much does it take? I think I over did it yesterday!

Do any products help while scrunching? I think I remember reading about using a tiny bit of leave in conditioner or something on your palms before scrunching?

Full of questions! Thanks for any advice!
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Old 01-04-2008, 11:16 AM   #2
 
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I would say rubbing is a definite no-no. It's a sure-fire way to overwork your curls and get an ill-defined mess.
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Old 01-04-2008, 11:22 AM   #3
 
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Hi Linda !!
How exactly do you scrunch out the crunch? Is it the same motion as scrunching when wet? I scrunch the same way as I do when it is wet.

Is it more of a squeezing motion or a squeezing and rubbing your fingers together while squeezing? Is the rubbing bad for the hair? I wouldn't rub anything ... I'd be afraid of making frizz.

How much does it take? Some products are worse than others. Something that I've learned the hard way ... I scrunch out the worst of the crunch and then I leave it for awhile. Usually after the hard crunch is gone, the hair softens on its own ... and no frizz. If you over-scrunch, you can end up with either frizz or your curls will be destroyed.

Do any products help while scrunching? If my hair isn't really crunchy, I like to use some product when scrunching. For me, when my hair is really crunchy (i.e. after using Joico's Joiwhip), I don't seem to need to use product to scrunch it out. If it isn't as crunchy, using a product seems to protect my curls, give some extra hold and prevent frizz.
Some of the products I like to use to scrunch are:
- Jane Carter's Solution Nourish & Shine (this one is great if you have a lot of crunch ... it melts it and still give you some hold).
- Innersense's Texturing Cream (only use it the odd time though, because there is a 'cone' in it).
- Innersense Finishing Polish (not as much hold, but no silicones)
- Mop Top pommade and Aveda's Humectant and Aveda's Element whip.

In the end, it comes down to practice and learning what your hair likes. To be on the safe side, scrunch a little less; you can always scrunch more if your hair is still looking wet or crunchy. When I first started scrunching, I found that using a product was a safer bet than scrunching without.

Also ... if you hair is looking wet .. are you putting a lot of product up near your roots? If I do that, I find my hair looks wet all day, no matter what I do .... especially if I overdo the Curl Keeper.

HTH and wasn't just a long winded babble !!!
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How exactly do you scrunch out the crunch?
I find the best way to scrunch out my crunch is using my still-damp plopping towel. I'll carefully gather my curls into it and carefully scrunch the towel. For me, applying more product or touching the individual curls causes frizz.

Have fun experimenting to see what works best for you and your curls!
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Old 01-04-2008, 01:39 PM   #5
 
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I can't scrunch it up into my hands like when I put in my gel in wet hair because that breaks up my curls too much so what I do is gently gather my hair in my hands as if I'm going to pull it up into a ponytail and then gently squeeze while running my hands down the length of it. I don't really use any product to scrunch the crunch out with.
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Old 01-04-2008, 09:19 PM   #6
 
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Oh my gosh! You gals are great! So many helpful ideas!

Thank you so much!! I can't wait to try these ideas out- not all at once, of course.

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Hi Linda !!
How exactly do you scrunch out the crunch? Is it the same motion as scrunching when wet? I scrunch the same way as I do when it is wet.

Is it more of a squeezing motion or a squeezing and rubbing your fingers together while squeezing? Is the rubbing bad for the hair? I wouldn't rub anything ... I'd be afraid of making frizz.

How much does it take? Some products are worse than others. Something that I've learned the hard way ... I scrunch out the worst of the crunch and then I leave it for awhile. Usually after the hard crunch is gone, the hair softens on its own ... and no frizz. If you over-scrunch, you can end up with either frizz or your curls will be destroyed.

Do any products help while scrunching? If my hair isn't really crunchy, I like to use some product when scrunching. For me, when my hair is really crunchy (i.e. after using Joico's Joiwhip), I don't seem to need to use product to scrunch it out. If it isn't as crunchy, using a product seems to protect my curls, give some extra hold and prevent frizz.
Some of the products I like to use to scrunch are:
- Jane Carter's Solution Nourish & Shine (this one is great if you have a lot of crunch ... it melts it and still give you some hold).
- Innersense's Texturing Cream (only use it the odd time though, because there is a 'cone' in it).
- Innersense Finishing Polish (not as much hold, but no silicones)
- Mop Top pommade and Aveda's Humectant and Aveda's Element whip.

In the end, it comes down to practice and learning what your hair likes. To be on the safe side, scrunch a little less; you can always scrunch more if your hair is still looking wet or crunchy. When I first started scrunching, I found that using a product was a safer bet than scrunching without.

Also ... if you hair is looking wet .. are you putting a lot of product up near your roots? If I do that, I find my hair looks wet all day, no matter what I do .... especially if I overdo the Curl Keeper.

HTH and wasn't just a long winded babble !!!
This is so true (see bolded above). Today, I put in way too much Curl Keeper, then I must have put on way too much B&A gel and my hair was awful today. I couldn't even get a lot of the crunch scrunched out; that hasn't happened to me in a long time. I even tried a bit of jojoba oil to try to soften it - nothing worked. I was a big, wet, greasy looking mess. I finally combed it out and stuck it in a scrunchie. Bleecch!!
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How exactly do you scrunch out the crunch?
I find the best way to scrunch out my crunch is using my still-damp plopping towel. I'll carefully gather my curls into it and carefully scrunch the towel. For me, applying more product or touching the individual curls causes frizz.

Have fun experimenting to see what works best for you and your curls!
That's how I do it too. When I was using my hands I broke up my curls too much.
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Old 03-17-2012, 06:34 PM   #9
 
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what I've been doing that's been working fabulously is to SOTC with oil.
I'll spritz a tiny bit of EVOO (just enough to coat my hands, not a ton) and rub my hands together, then scrunch with my head turned sideways in a few sections, maybe fluff up my roots if I can.

I think the oil is what's working for me. Usually touching my hair when it's dry is a big no-no, but the oil helps keep the curls intact. Plus, moisture retention!
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I believe that IAgirl once suggested if SOTC wasn't working, for each curl/clump, you could run your thumb and index finger from the root to the end, as kind of a modified way to get the crunch out. I haven't tried it for myself, but it makes sense that it would work.
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Old 03-18-2012, 12:26 AM   #11
 
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I scrunch with bare hands and no product, but I do sort of a horizontal scrunch as opposed to the usual vertical one. For me, vertical scrunching just disturbs the curls and creates frizz.
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I believe that IAgirl once suggested if SOTC wasn't working, for each curl/clump, you could run your thumb and index finger from the root to the end, as kind of a modified way to get the crunch out. I haven't tried it for myself, but it makes sense that it would work.
I've done this with individual curls that still looked crunchy after I sotc-ed, and it worked without messing up the curl.

Also, TA with the others who pointed out that rubbing is a no-no.
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This thread is SOTC GOLD!!! I wanna try that - no, wait, I'm going to try that!
Yup, I learned from Rheostaticsfan the "clump-specific SOTC" where you just barely pinch clumps in your fingers and smooth over them. No frizz and little curl loss, nice definition. I usually need a root-shake for my thinner hair. It's like Magoo's (see above), really, but smaller bits.
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