A handful of questions...

I have some questions and I hope someone out there has some answers!

1) What is a good (affordable) clarifying shampoo that I can buy in the store?

2) What is a good product for DT? What is the process for DT'ing?

3) How can I avoid getting a flat top while plopping?

4) Is there any store where I can get a good towel for plopping or do I have to buy it from the internet?

5) What is the best way to detangle your hair? I try to put leave-in conditioner in it and comb through with my fingers, but it's not working too well. A wide tooth comb?

OK. That's good for now. I'm sure any responses will warrant more questions from me. I'm really trying to figure this out and I'm getting closer I think. Thanks!
You will probably get a bunch of different answers for these questions but here are mine.

1. Neutrogena has a clarifying shampoo.

2. I use CHS Silk Protein for DT. I put it in after CO washing once a week. I leave it in my hair for about 15 min either just hanging or a shower cap if I don't want the drips. Then I rinse it out and go about my usual styling routine.

3. I don't have a flat top from plopping if I diffuse that part of my hair while hanging upside down.

4. You might want to check this thread out:

Curlease Towel - I am in love

5. It depends how tangly my hair is whether I use my fingers or a wide toothed comb. If it's really tangly (which it usually is if I diffused the day before), I use a wide tooth comb.

Methods vary from person to person so there's a lot of trial and error. Hope you receive some answers that help in your quest.
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I have some questions and I hope someone out there has some answers!

1) What is a good (affordable) clarifying shampoo that I can buy in the store?

To clarify, all you need is any old shampoo with sulfates. I try to use cocobetaine poos when I absolutely need to use something stronger, so I won't be much help here, but I'm sure you'll get some good recs from other curlies here.

2) What is a good product for DT? What is the process for DT'ing?

I use coconut oil for DTs because it's cheap and easy to get ahold of. Lots here swear by Jessicurl's WDT. Basically you put the product on your hair, wrap it up real good, some apply heat if desired, let it sit for at least an hour, but the longer the better - some do this overnight.

3) How can I avoid getting a flat top while plopping?

I sometimes use little claw clips at my roots right before I plop. You have to be careful not to get the ends tangled up in the clips, but it works well for me.

4) Is there any store where I can get a good towel for plopping or do I have to buy it from the internet?

I got some twisty towels at bed bath & beyond. Love the turban shape. Others here swear by microfiber towels. These are easy to come by - try Autozone or Wal-mart or Target. You can also use an old t-shirt if you want.

5) What is the best way to detangle your hair? I try to put leave-in conditioner in it and comb through with my fingers, but it's not working too well. A wide tooth comb?

Wide tooth comb, only in the shower, only saturated in conditioner.
Originally Posted by Curiousgirlge
Hope this helps!

Location: Frisco, TX

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CO Wash: Suave Coconut
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Thanks, Shell! I've been using a tee shirt and it works all right, but the size and shape are just difficult for me. I haven't seen microfiber towels anywhere but maybe I'm looking in the wrong place.

So I should wash with a sulfate shampoo and scrub my whole head with it once a week? I don't need to have a "clarifying" shampoo?

(I warned you that I would have more questions!) haha
Silk Protein is from Curly Hair Solutions (same as Curl Keeper) I think you can order it from Curlmart. I order directly from CHS.
Current Products: CJ Products: CF, DF, CT, SG, AFG, CIAB AND CK is back!
Current Experiment: S&C by D

Curl Fix and Daily Fix are my HGs


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wavy/curly fine texture/medium porosity/medium-low density

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Thanks! Another question... is there anything like Curl Keeper that you can buy in the store?
So I should wash with a sulfate shampoo and scrub my whole head with it once a week? I don't need to have a "clarifying" shampoo?

(I warned you that I would have more questions!) haha
Originally Posted by Curiousgirlge
Well, it depends on what your goals are. A lot of us here follow the CurlyGirl method (CG) where we don't use shampoo at all, the idea being that harsh surfactants like sodium lauryl sulfate are drying to the hair.

We do what's called a CO-wash, or massaging the scalp really well with conditioner instead of shampoo. As a result, we also have to avoid ingredients that could cause build-up - typically silicones. There are a bunch of threads and articles on this stuff so I'm keeping it really basic here. I saw your request for a clarifying shampoo and assumed you'd read something saying you needed to clarify before starting CG.. my bad.

Sorry for opening up a can of worms here.. let us know what your goals are, and I'm sure you'll get some great product recommendations!

Location: Frisco, TX

Fia type: 3a/F/ii Pics! Updated 04/22/10
CO Wash: Suave Coconut
Leave-in: Deva Heaven in Hair
Current Styler: Fuzzy Duck Gel
finally at waist length!
So I should wash with a sulfate shampoo and scrub my whole head with it once a week? I don't need to have a "clarifying" shampoo?

(I warned you that I would have more questions!) haha
Originally Posted by Curiousgirlge
Well, it depends on what your goals are. A lot of us here follow the CurlyGirl method (CG) where we don't use shampoo at all, the idea being that harsh surfactants like sodium lauryl sulfate are drying to the hair.

We do what's called a CO-wash, or massaging the scalp really well with conditioner instead of shampoo. As a result, we also have to avoid ingredients that could cause build-up - typically silicones. There are a bunch of threads and articles on this stuff so I'm keeping it really basic here. I saw your request for a clarifying shampoo and assumed you'd read something saying you needed to clarify before starting CG.. my bad.

Sorry for opening up a can of worms here.. let us know what your goals are, and I'm sure you'll get some great product recommendations!
Originally Posted by shell78

Yes, I've been CG for about a month now, but I was using awful products that were causing build- up. So I'm trying to get ideas for better co-washing products and I know I need to clarify first. I know, now, not to use 'cones and I thought sulfates were bad, too.
Thanks! Another question... is there anything like Curl Keeper that you can buy in the store?
Originally Posted by Curiousgirlge

There a couple of threads about CK alternatives. This was the first one I found.

curl keeper alternative

I haven't tried it but it seems quite a few have and like it.
Current Products: CJ Products: CF, DF, CT, SG, AFG, CIAB AND CK is back!
Current Experiment: S&C by D

Curl Fix and Daily Fix are my HGs


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wavy/curly fine texture/medium porosity/medium-low density

http://public.fotki.com/whatsercurl/

PW: wavycurly

Seek not to change the world. Rather seek to change your mind about the world.
So I should wash with a sulfate shampoo and scrub my whole head with it once a week? I don't need to have a "clarifying" shampoo?

(I warned you that I would have more questions!) haha
Originally Posted by Curiousgirlge
Well, it depends on what your goals are. A lot of us here follow the CurlyGirl method (CG) where we don't use shampoo at all, the idea being that harsh surfactants like sodium lauryl sulfate are drying to the hair.

We do what's called a CO-wash, or massaging the scalp really well with conditioner instead of shampoo. As a result, we also have to avoid ingredients that could cause build-up - typically silicones. There are a bunch of threads and articles on this stuff so I'm keeping it really basic here. I saw your request for a clarifying shampoo and assumed you'd read something saying you needed to clarify before starting CG.. my bad.

Sorry for opening up a can of worms here.. let us know what your goals are, and I'm sure you'll get some great product recommendations!
Originally Posted by shell78

Yes, I've been CG for about a month now, but I was using awful products that were causing build- up. So I'm trying to get ideas for better co-washing products and I know I need to clarify first. I know, now, not to use 'cones and I thought sulfates were bad, too.
Originally Posted by Curiousgirlge
Ok, that helps. Sounds like you don't really need a clarifying poo (sulfates) but rather a cocobetaine (gentle) poo to use occasionally as needed. If you're CG, I'd suggest you poo once a month or less often if you can.

I like Devacurl Low Poo (available at Ulta and not cheap) and I've also used Burts Bees Baby Shampoo (but I worried about the pH not being good for hair) You'll get other good recs from curlies here who poo more often than I do

Location: Frisco, TX

Fia type: 3a/F/ii Pics! Updated 04/22/10
CO Wash: Suave Coconut
Leave-in: Deva Heaven in Hair
Current Styler: Fuzzy Duck Gel
finally at waist length!
Thanks a lot! I'm wondering if Suave Clarifying shampoo would do the trick. I think I will have to do it more than once a month because I tend to get build- up with all the different products, though.
5. i bought a mebco shower detangling comb at sallys, it works great!
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1) What is a good (affordable) clarifying shampoo that I can buy in the store?

I use & love my (gentle) Generic Value Nexxus Aloe Rid, available at Sally Beauty Supply.


2) What is a good product for DT? What is the process for DT'ing?

Some people here seem to love their coconut oil. I like to go the lightweight way & use something like Aussie 3 Minute Miracle. Buy the Generic Value bottle of such at Sally Beauty Supply.

3) How can I avoid getting a flat top while plopping?

I don't know because I rarely plop & when I do, I pile all my hair on top my head so I can use my microfiber turban.

4) Is there any store where I can get a good towel for plopping or do I have to buy it from the internet?

You can use an old T-shirt or a buy microfiber towel from the automotive store or section of Wal-Mart, maybe even in a Dollar Tree. Sally Beauty Supply, or maybe it's Bed Bath & Beyond, carries microfiber turbans.


5) What is the best way to detangle your hair? I try to put leave-in conditioner in it and comb through with my fingers, but it's not working too well. A wide tooth comb?

Sally Beauty Supply has a jilbere detangling comb. It has a hanging hook. Comb the conditioner through your wet hair.

Last edited by lazy loops; 03-12-2008 at 09:57 PM.
-Where can you find coconut oil? Is Aloe the same idea?

-I plopped with a t-shirt and still ended up w/ a flat- top. I bought a microfiber turban from walmart tonight, thanks.

-I also bought Suave clarifying shampoo. It has sulfates, but it's the only bottle I could find that said clarifying. I also bought the vanilla con. that everyone was raving about.

-I will try to avoid using it, but I will try a wide tooth comb if my hair gets particularly tangled.

-Now I just need DT advice and hopefully I can figure this all out!! Thanks!
-Where can you find coconut oil? Is Aloe the same idea?

Aloe is for moisturizing, to be left in, I'm pretty sure. Coconut oil can be found at Wal-Mart in the cooking oil section.
-Where can you find coconut oil? Is Aloe the same idea?

Aloe is for moisturizing, to be left in, I'm pretty sure. Coconut oil can be found at Wal-Mart in the cooking oil section.
Originally Posted by lazy loops
Ohhh, like literal coconut oil. Thanks!
Yeah, the coconut oil is a solid. I think other people use Extra Virgin Olive Oil as a deep treatment.

As for the aloe, people use it as a styling gel or with a premixed styling gel. I think. I can't use it because I'm pretty sure it makes my hair dry.
Now I just need DT advice and hopefully I can figure this all out!!
I love Jessicurl Weekly Deep Conditioning Treatment. It has done wonders for my hair. I put it on and put my hair in a shower cap. Sometimes I use heat for a while to help and I always sleep in it over night. When I first started 'caring' for my hair, I did it once weekly. It helped tremendously. Now, I do it about every two weeks, more if I think about it. I've tried other DT's and Jessicurl's is by far my favorite. HTH!
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-I also bought Suave clarifying shampoo. It has sulfates, but it's the only bottle I could find that said clarifying. I also bought the vanilla con. that everyone was raving about.

Look for EDTA in the ingredients. That's what supposedly makes for a clarifying shampoo, which works on hard water minerals.

-I will try to avoid using it, but I will try a wide tooth comb if my hair gets particularly tangled.

Jess from Jessicurl has some info on her site about using a comb for clumping. You might want to check it out & consider using it each time you condition.

-Now I just need DT advice and hopefully I can figure this all out!! Thanks!

The gals put whatever natural oil on their hair & sleep with it in then get rid of it somehow in the morning. I can't use the heavy stuff on my fine hair so I use store-bought DT (BioInfusion Conditioning Balm from Walgreen's is another besides GV Aussie 3 MM). I shampoo then DT my hair then cap it & do the rest of my shower (wash face, microderm face, wash body, shave, pumice feet) to give the DT time to work.

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