I shampooed

I've been really curious what is lurking under my conditioner buildup if anything, and also whether my scalp yuckiness would clear up with shampoo.

I finally found in the back of my closet, some shampoo without anything too objectionable other than SLS, and went for it. Here are the findings!

I not only sudsed my roots but also worked the shampoo through the whole length, since buildup was one of the factors I wanted to check.

My hair texture is A-OK! Unlike any time I ever clarified the whole length while using cones, which was not too often. It always felt totally gross and strawlike underneath them. This time, it already felt decent just after shampoo, then I put some conditioner on and it felt as good as it ever does, and detangled fine too.

My scalp sludge is as I thought. It's from stopping brushing, not stopping shampoo. It is still here. I'm considering trying a Denman to use in the shower.

I'm not going back to shampooing every two days. I am satisfied that all my moisturizing is not just creating an illusion of decent hair, the way it used to with cones. I had to do this excercise to prove that to myself, and my mind is at ease that my hair is actually better now.

I'm letting it air dry with no products (but for a little left in conditioner) so that I can check it out further, but I do not anticipate any big surprises. It is curling already.
Yup, I came to the same realization. Shampoo helps the curlies in my hair. I love me a good co-wash, but shampoo is just a necessary for me.

Congrats on the discovery of fab hair under that conditioner buildup!
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This area is under construction as my hair type changed and nothing works well for me. I shampoo, I condition and pretty much have done nothing but chuck my hair in a messy bun for the past oh...year? Yeah, I'm that lazy.

No...going no-poo or CG does not work for me. It leaves me overconditioned and oily in a second no matter what I use, so that's not what's not working.
Actually it was the opposite. I feared I had gnarly hair underneath the buildup, but I really didn't. It was OK.

I also wondered if shampoo would clear up scalp-swamp-thing, but it didn't, at all.

Conclusion: I guess I don't need shampoo.
Riot Crrl, how long have you been treating your hair right? I ask because I'm curious about how long it takes for hair to get healthy as yours seems to have.
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Awww dangit. My eyes deceive me again! Hmmm...have you tried adding tea tree oil to your co-wash? It's stinky, but works wonders for my scalp-swamp-thing! And the scent doesn't linger, I promise.
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This area is under construction as my hair type changed and nothing works well for me. I shampoo, I condition and pretty much have done nothing but chuck my hair in a messy bun for the past oh...year? Yeah, I'm that lazy.

No...going no-poo or CG does not work for me. It leaves me overconditioned and oily in a second no matter what I use, so that's not what's not working.
I could narrow it down further if I searched this site probably lol, but I only stepped away from the Pantene and Feria like three months ago or something. Since then I only got shampooed once by the stylist and then this time. But I did use a couple of protein treatments and what not that were SLS.

It used to be that underneath the Pantene silicone facade was pure horror. I always hated to clarify.

SunshineGrrl I got some tea tree conditioner. I think this is going to take something mechanical to get it off though. All signs are pointing to it really missing brushing. I think it will be OK if I get a decent brush, unlike my old ones that had seams (AKA tiny hair knives) all over them, and only use it wet with conditioner.
I could narrow it down further if I searched this site probably lol, but I only stepped away from the Pantene and Feria like three months ago or something. Since then I only got shampooed once by the stylist and then this time. But I did use a couple of protein treatments and what not that were SLS.

It used to be that underneath the Pantene silicone facade was pure horror. I always hated to clarify.

SunshineGrrl I got some tea tree conditioner. I think this is going to take something mechanical to get it off though. All signs are pointing to it really missing brushing. I think it will be OK if I get a decent brush, unlike my old ones that had seams (AKA tiny hair knives) all over them, and only use it wet with conditioner.
Originally Posted by Riot Crrl
I have a Denman brush that I got at Sally's. I love it. It goes through my hair fairly easily without ripping it. I still brush once in awhile to stimulate my scalp and distribute any oils down the shaft and this seems to work better than any other one I've had.
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Forgive my ignorance, but Denman?

Have you tried a massage brush? I purchased one at "one of those" parties and love it. Not in the shower, of course, because it has batteries, but dang, it sure feels good on the head!
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This area is under construction as my hair type changed and nothing works well for me. I shampoo, I condition and pretty much have done nothing but chuck my hair in a messy bun for the past oh...year? Yeah, I'm that lazy.

No...going no-poo or CG does not work for me. It leaves me overconditioned and oily in a second no matter what I use, so that's not what's not working.
Awesome, I'm totally going to try that. Now that I proved shampoo doesn't help me, this whole thing would be most excellent if I could just figure out the scalp horror. It didn't happen when I stopped shampoo, it happened immediately when I stopped brushing. Everything I try on it works for a while then stops working.

Edit: SunshineGrrl it's just a brand of brush. They are supposed to be less damaging than my old cheapo onese.

Haha no I haven't tried a battery one. I have been afraid to use any brush.

Last edited by Riot Crrl; 04-20-2008 at 11:42 AM.
You could try a scalp brush first - about a buck at Walgreens. If you do a search, there are several threads, some with pictures of the brush, that might be helpful.
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I have one. It worked fabulous for about a week or two, and the crud seemed to regroup and conquer the scalp brush. It is still working better than anything else I have, though.

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