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Old 05-08-2008, 02:25 PM   #21
 
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I really like this gel, as well as aussie's tizz no frizz. But the HE gel in the tube works great when I want more hold. Problem is around here I can only find the spray gel which imo sucks. Leaves my hair dry, stiff, and frizzy.
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Old 05-08-2008, 02:29 PM   #22
 
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My hair is definitely stiff but its not completely dry yet.. so I'm hoping once I scrunch out the crunch with my JCNS it will be alright!
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Old 05-08-2008, 02:44 PM   #23
 
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curly mo you hair looks fantastic.....i just checked out your pic. how do you get such volume at the root? it looks like we have similar textures.
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SMU is awesome! This is the only gel that I can get 2nd and even 3rd day hair with. But it makes my hair super dry and I wonder if it's the reason for some of the breakage that I've been experiencing.
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Old 05-08-2008, 03:20 PM   #25
 
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thank you curlysue! First I should say I try very hard not to put product in my hair that weighs it down. I don't know about your hair, but mine gets weighed down very easily! After I have applied my product I use my radiant heat hairdryer for 10-20 min depending how much time i have. I tilt my head over and aim the heat upward but not touching my hair. The layers I have probably help too!

HTH let me know if you have anymore questions
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thank you curlysue! First I should say I try very hard not to put product in my hair that weighs it down. I don't know about your hair, but mine gets weighed down very easily! After I have applied my product I use my radiant heat hairdryer for 10-20 min depending how much time i have. I tilt my head over and aim the heat upward but not touching my hair. The layers I have probably help too!

HTH let me know if you have anymore questions

I'm still new to all this. I liked how my curls came out but my hair overall seemed limp. Just trying to get some pointers for when I wash again.
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Old 05-08-2008, 03:42 PM   #27
 
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for me.. limp hair means too much product
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Old 05-08-2008, 03:53 PM   #28
 
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Curls_abound, it does have benzyl alcohol lower on the ingred list that could be why. I don't use it all the time but I do like it.
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Old 05-08-2008, 04:43 PM   #29
 
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After reading this thread, I'm going to try the LOOB and HESMU, I've had sitting around for quite some time. I got the SMU and TT, along with the TT mousse. I must have had a coupon, buy 2 get 1 free. The TT is also very good and doesn't contain glycerin. I get good clumping from that. For the price, it's really worth a try.
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Old 05-08-2008, 04:46 PM   #30
 
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SMU is awesome! This is the only gel that I can get 2nd and even 3rd day hair with. But it makes my hair super dry and I wonder if it's the reason for some of the breakage that I've been experiencing.
I switch back and forth between the HE SMU and HEBE gels and really like both, but like curls-abound, I also find that sometimes my hair feels a bit dry with the SMU. I'm not sure if it's the benzyl alcohol because the BE has it too. The only difference between the two is the botanical ingredients so I'm wondering if that's it.
As far as SMU in the humidity, I think a lot of curlies on here like it in the summer.
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Old 05-08-2008, 04:57 PM   #31
 
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Great, I can't wait to see how it works when humidity comes. Thanks!
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Old 05-08-2008, 06:52 PM   #32
 
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I added some pics of this combo.. my BF was kind enough to take the pics for me. Everytime I try it I take pics of the wall!

I've got to ask.. what is LOOB, and TT?
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Old 05-08-2008, 07:04 PM   #33
 
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Loreal Out of Bed
Herbal Essence Totally Twisted

They are both drugstore products.
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Old 05-08-2008, 07:05 PM   #34
 
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You did better head shots that me....I had my four year old do it! She did awesome too!
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Old 05-09-2008, 04:50 AM   #35
 
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I have found that the key to success for 2nd day hair for me is SMU, the spray version. I wet my hair lightly with water in a spray bottle, then spray on a light mist of SMU and scrunch. Love it!
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Old 05-09-2008, 05:41 AM   #36
 
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I'm stunned!! I made a mistake, I had the HEBE (not SMU) sitting around untried. I only had the LOOB because it was BOGO at CVS last week. I saw it, of course, because I had to walk down the hair product aisle while picking up other things. I had looked for it a few months ago and never found it--so I moved on to other products.

Used the HEBE with the LOOB, on top of leave in and CK. My curls are every bit as good as my first time with KCCC!
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Old 05-09-2008, 08:02 AM   #37
 
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What does the Loreal Out Of Bed do for your hair? Is there a difference if you use the HE SMU w/out the LOOB? Thanks!
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Old 05-09-2008, 09:11 AM   #38
 
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Tried the HE set me up b/c it seemed to work for a lot of ppl on the site. I put it over some biotera curl creme and as soon as I did my hair felt really dry like straw. I only used a dime size amount for each section I style my hair in sections. I had to immediately co wash to get the terrible feeling out of my hair. I'm thinking maybe it's the polyquats? My hair did the same thing with the fx gel.
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Old 05-09-2008, 10:48 AM   #39
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What does the Loreal Out Of Bed do for your hair? Is there a difference if you use the HE SMU w/out the LOOB? Thanks!
For me, the LOOB seems to define the curls and actually gives them some texture and sometimes (if it is humid) it will help clump them.

The SMU gel holds the curl very nicely. I have tried using SMU alone and it just doesn't give me the curls that I want. It does create some curl, but no where near the amount that the combo of LOOB and SMU does.

I always scrunch each section 8 times to help create the curl too (as per someone posting that method on the board about a month ago).

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Oh, I guess I always thought the LOOB was more of a hair tamer. Thanks for responding!
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