Are we just overthinking our hair too much??

Hellooooooooo ladies!!! I have just spent a fabulous week away in sultry (and might I add, sexy!) Nicaragua! My trip was so amazing, and since this is a curly hair board, I wanted to share with you what I have learned (and pretty much by accident!)... Please excuse any ramblings as I am still a wee bit jet lagged

Okay, so I live in the Northeast with low to mid humidity levels. Not being entirely sure what the extreme heat and humidity would do for my hair, I made sure I packed JC CCSS and Too Shea as well as LA Looks Sports Gel with me. I was only taking a carry-on so all I had was 3 oz. for a ten day trip. I decided to visit my parents for 2 days in Florida before I headed out to Central America and lo and behold, the ditz that is me, leaves my JC Too Shea and CCSS behind at their house As far as my hair is concerned, I was off to a bad start. So, I met up with my friend (total straightie who laughed at me, lovingly, when I told her I was in desperate need of condidtioner and maybe some more gel because 3 oz. was not going to cut it). So we went into the market and I purchased some condish and gel and totally could have cared less about ingreds. because I could not decipher most of them anyway! The condish was AWESOME and the gel (pronounced 'hell' in spanish) was, well, hellish. Sticky and no hold. Smelled delish though! So I quickly ran out of my LA Looks and got super sunburned and picked up some 100% aloe vera gel. VOILA! The answer to my problems! So, for 5 days, I only water washed and then slathered the tresses in random Nicaraguan conditioner, plopped with a TERRY CLOTH towel LOL and then put aloe vera gel in my hair.

OMG! Ladies, I am telling you, so amazing. And the damn routine was so simple! My hair was soft, shiny, clumpy, voluminous. Little frizz (everyone has frizz there lol) and my hair was curlier than ever. I was bumped up to a 3B/C instead of the usual 3A/B. So, my ponderings are this: are we just trying too hard? I am dying to try my method here in the States and will certainly respond to how it works. I won't have exactly the same products (Nicaragua wouldn't let me leave with the condish, dammit lol), but I want to try a more simple method. I am sure there are many 'X' factors to contend with, but I sincerely haven't been so happy with this mop on my head!!! LOL

Sorry it's so long and I am way impressed if you actually make it to the end
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I've read on the longhair community board about people using aloe vera for their hair. I have some but never used it. Too bad no Diablo conditioner here, though.
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For whatever reason - and maybe it's because I am more relaxed and on vacation but every trip we have taken to the caribbean - I get great hair. And like you I am not going all crazy with the products. Now, for some reason while in Aruba last year - Devacurl One C worked horrible - I am thinking it was their water so I bought some conditioner there (Aruba aloe products) and was good to go.

I think it's a combination for me - humidity and being more relaxed about the whole hair thing while on vacation.
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Wow, that is so cool, Miniskirt201! It's always good to hear about great hair days, wherever and however they happen.

I'm with you on the simpler is better and having been pondering the aloe vera gel thing myself this week! Now I just have to do some research because in this country, just because something says it's one thing doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't also contain a truckload of crap along with it. If you find a good aloe vera gel here in the states, please let us know.

Air and water definitely play a role when we go to another country. But maybe being relaxed and happy help, too!
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CURL ENHANCERS/CREMES/MOUSSES: KCCC, JoiWhip
GELS: Fuzzy Duck, B5 Design, MGA Scultping, BRHG


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Are we just overthinking our hair too much??
Yes!
I'm so happy you had a good trip and didn't have "hair stress" added to the mix.

I'm also glad aloe worked for you. I've not found it to work for me. I bought "the good stuff" Fruit of the Earth as recommended by the Long Hair Community. I found that although it does have mild hold it gives me lots of frizz. I've not tried another brand because I'm not sure it would matter. I am interested if anyone else has ever used FOTE and compared it to the natural edible aloe. Did that make a difference?
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For whatever reason - and maybe it's because I am more relaxed and on vacation but every trip we have taken to the caribbean - I get great hair. And like you I am not going all crazy with the products. Now, for some reason while in Aruba last year - Devacurl One C worked horrible - I am thinking it was their water so I bought some conditioner there (Aruba aloe products) and was good to go.

I think it's a combination for me - humidity and being more relaxed about the whole hair thing while on vacation.
Originally Posted by xcptnl
Totally Agree! My hair is the most beautiful and co-operative when I am south - must be the humidity, because it isn't the salt water which turns my curls into instand frizz.
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Hmmmm......here I just said that I'm going to stick with my favourite product and voila up comes Aloe Vera which I happen to have upstairs beside my hair stash...................
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When I get to be 'Queen of the World', I will absolish WIND!!!
The more I try to experiment w/different products and different combinations the more unhappy I get with my hair. I remind myself that what I use works and try, try, try to stick to that. I like to keep things simple but for some reason when I read about a product that is getting rave reviews I instantly write it down and add it to the list of products I want to try. Overthinking indeed.
3B: very thick, fine, easily weighed down by products

Current styling products:
Biolage Gelee or BRHG on top of
KCKT as a leave in or CK when humid
or just Joiwhip alone for moderate weather conditions
Miniskirt201, wow, now I'm inspired. Thanks for sharing. I'm off to Southern India, land of humidity, this summer and would love a simple routine. I think I'll experiment with plopping with my Potion 9 and aloe gel and nothing else.
Glad you had such a wonderful trip!

Funny you mentioned aloe vera gel. Last night I tried cowashing (Suave coconut conditioner) and using only Fruit of the Earth aloe vera gel afterwards. Major frizz, hardly any curl definition, but really good clumping. I'll have to try it again when it gets humid here (I live in NJ)

Sherry
hee hee! i'm glad you guys are enjoying my post so, i'm not totally sure, but i think the aloe vera gel was edible. as far as i could tell, there were no perservatives. it said 100% on it, however, it wasn't stored in a fridge when i bought it. maybe it has a longer shelf life than we are used to? i am sitting at my desk with droopy curls and wishing i was back south again. i should clarify about the frizz: for me, i wasn't any frizzier than normal with the avg. i am going after work to the health food store to see if i could find something similar. also, interestingly, on the back of the bottle of the avg was (entirely in spanish) a list of different ways to use the gel and it included suggestions to use as body lotion or hair gel! oy... can't wait to go back!! i already miss the fresh mangoes sliced up in little baggie for you... lol
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I actually mix aloe vera gel with jojoba oil (2-3 drops) for my face moisturizer. I also like it to mix with thicker products to thin them out for my hair. I have not used it alone. I have the fruit of the earth brand which has the following ingredients (it notes on the bottle to insure potency and efficacy):


Aloe Vera Gel
Triethanolamine
Tocopheryl Acetate
Carbomer 940
Tetrasodium EDTA
DMDM Hydantoin
Diazolidinyl Urea
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I think you are on to something!! When I first came to the board a couple of years ago, I started layering all these raved about products only to litterally fall flat and gunky. I have learned through much money and trials and tribulations, less is more for my hair.

I stoped experimenting and am trying to stick with what works.

I poo & co daily, leave-in, CK...Viola it works!
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ITA!!! ITA!!!

Yes overthinking.... and overspending - but that can be part of the fun.

However, for me - it stopped being fun though... between the breakouts (there is something not good for me in CK, and im afraid, in my Jessicurl too.... ) and the hair loss (I've decided, due to combing hair while wet) - I have a new plan - LESS IS MORE.

This morning, to style, I used ONLY: FOTE 100% Aloe Vera Gel (ingredients are listed above in this post), brushed with this brush http://www.goody.com/Products/Collec...ing_Tools.aspx, and did my twirl-curl technique

BEST HAIR DAY I HAVE HAD IN LITERALLY, MONTHS.

(It takes some patience, as you think it is going to be a frizzy mess, but let it dry - be patient while it does its thing. Slightly crunchy and then scrunched out... VOILA - my thin coarse hair has shape, body and is soffffft today. So happy - Summer routine... I'm all set!!! One product!!!!)
3b, and increasingly c pieces... my curls will always be a little confused, but that is just fine!
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Last edited by Confusedcurl; 05-15-2008 at 02:27 PM.
Okay, this aloe vera thing has come up too often. I'm going to start a new thread. We need product names, techniques, and pictures!

And congrats, Confusedcurl, on a great hair day!
3a and strictly CG since August 2007. Porous and on the fine side. No to magnesium sulfate and glycerin. Yes to protein! Favorites:
CO-WASHES: Suave Coconut
CONDITIONERS and LEAVE-INS: Mop Top Daily Conditioner, KBB Nectar, Aubrey GPB or Island Naturals, Robert Craig, Any Jessicurl
CURL ENHANCERS/CREMES/MOUSSES: KCCC, JoiWhip
GELS: Fuzzy Duck, B5 Design, MGA Scultping, BRHG


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Twitter: nopoojillipoo
I definitely think we overthink our hair! When I just go with the flow and do minimal work, my hair turns out better.
I'm in the northeast too, and whenever I go to the Jersey shore in the summer or to the caribbean, my curls look 10x better.
I LOVE humidity!!
2c or 3a Cut most of my hair off in July '12 and am working on regrowing it.
Oh yeah, we definitely overthink our hair. Congrats on the good hair day! Aloe vera gel is good stuff for both hair and skin. Lately I've been taking a simpler route with my hair as well. I haven't even been bothering with gel. XD
2a/M-C/ii hair. Super long.
ITA!!! ITA!!!

Yes overthinking.... and overspending - but that can be part of the fun.

However, for me - it stopped being fun though... between the breakouts (there is something not good for me in CK, and im afraid, in my Jessicurl too.... ) and the hair loss (I've decided, due to combing hair while wet) - I have a new plan - LESS IS MORE.

This morning, to style, I used ONLY: FOTE 100% Aloe Vera Gel (ingredients are listed above in this post), brushed with this brush http://www.goody.com/Products/Collec...ing_Tools.aspx, and did my twirl-curl technique

BEST HAIR DAY I HAVE HAD IN LITERALLY, MONTHS.

(It takes some patience, as you think it is going to be a frizzy mess, but let it dry - be patient while it does its thing. Slightly crunchy and then scrunched out... VOILA - my thin coarse hair has shape, body and is soffffft today. So happy - Summer routine... I'm all set!!! One product!!!!)
Originally Posted by Confusedcurl
Sorry, guano: "twirl curl technique" Link anywhere?
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