_fluffy_

Did a cowash (with my regular conditioner) today after using a new styling cream*, and it feels like there is some kind of cone-ish(as if my hair has a plastic film on it) build up in my hair. I dont think it is the proteins(?). Could it be any of the other ingredients? If thats the case, how can i get it out of my hair..?

*ingredients: Water, Propylene glycol, PVP, Isopropyl palmitate, Polyquaternium-37, Propylene glycol dicaprylate/Dicaprate, PPG-1 Trideceth-6, Hydrolyzed wheat protein PG-propyl silanetriol, Isopropyl myristate, Parfum, Benzophenone-4, DMDM Hydantoin, Methylparaben, Alpha-isomethyl ionone, Butylphenyl methylpropional, Citronellol, Geraniol, Hexyl cinnamal, Limonene, Linalool

tmmycat

I am not familiar with those ingredients so sorry I can't help there...

I would first see if the coated feeling goes away with your next co-wash. sometimes I get this coated feeling and it washes out in a few days with the normal routine.

If I have buildup that I can't get out with conditioner, I use Dr. Bronner's castile soap. This doesn't have the harsh chemicals that shampoo has, so it doesn't irritate my skin (which is why I don't use shampoo) and it isn't as drying as shampoo if you dilute it, but using it full-strength is not good because that would dry out hair a lot. What I do is dilute a teaspoon of it in a bowl of water and pour that over my hair, then lather up, and repeat one or two more times until hair feels clean. Then follow up with vinegar rinses (about a tablespoon in a 2-3 cups of water) because Dr. Bronner's is very alkaline and you will need to close your hair cuticles after using it. Anyway that is what works for me - it leaves my hair soft and clean without drying it out.

dalitwil

silanetriol: Formula = CH6O4Si. Si = silicon. Tricky one, I had to pull out CAS chem book for that... did you get this product in Mexico?

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SunshineGrrl

It looks like this: PG-propyl silanetriol may be your suspect. When I googled it, it was lumped in with other cones. I don't know as you could actually call it a cone, but my suspicion is it acts just like one if it isn't.

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This area is under construction as my hair type changed and nothing works well for me. I shampoo, I condition and pretty much have done nothing but chuck my hair in a messy bun for the past oh...year? Yeah, I'm that lazy.

No...going no-poo or CG does not work for me. It leaves me overconditioned and oily in a second no matter what I use, so that's not what's not working.

_fluffy_

Thanks!

The product is Define professional styling cream and its from norway.

I Googled Hydrolyzed wheat protein PG-propyl silanetriol, and it is supposed to be water soluble(when pH is above 5.5), so i will wait and see if i can get rid of it without shampoo, and maybe do a baking soda rinse.

http://www.chservice.ru/download/DC%20Crodasone%20W.pdf

Hope101

I've been worried about the use of polyvinylpyrrolidone (PVP) in hair products since I noticed that one of my purses is made from it. I did a google search, and found that PVP is a plastic (check out the word vinyl) that can be either soluable or insoluable in water. This too might be causing build-up if your hair product cantains the insoluable polymer.

jillipoo

PVP is one of the ingredients that the Curly Girl book says to look for in a gel. It's a great polymer.

(Of course, Curly Girl also says to avoid 'cones but then puts them in Deva products, so go figure.)

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pippilotta

Is this conditioner CG friendly?
Aqua (Purified Water), Emulsifying Wax, Anthemis Nobilis (Chamomile) Flower Extract*, Stearalkonium Chloride, Calendula Officinalis (Marigold) Flower Extract*, Equisetum Arvense (Horsetail) Leaf Extract*, Stearyl Alcohol, Aloe Barbadensis (Aloe Vera) Leaf Gel*, Prunus Armeniaca (Apricot) Kernel Oil, Simmondsia Chinensis (Jojoba) Seed Oil*, Vegetbale Glycerin, Lavandula Angustifolia (Lavender) Extract*, Retinyl Palmitate (Vit. A), Linoleic & Linolenic Acid (Vit. F), Planthenol-3 (DL-Panthenol, Ethyl Panthenol, Panthenyl Hydroxypropyl, Steardimonium Chloride), Glyceryl Stearate, Triticum Vulgare (Hydrolyzed Wheat) Protein, Natural Tocopherol (Vit. E), Oxybenzone, Benzyl Alcohol, Citrus Grandis (Grapefruit) Seed Extract, Sodium Benzoate, Potassium Sorbate, Fragrance Oil Blend.
*Certified Organic

This is Jason Organics Apricot conditioner - but I´m not sure if european product has the same ingredients as US one...
Could somebody help?

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Geek_Chic

Those ingredients are all CG friendly, Pippi. I don't see any silicones or sulfates listed.

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Clarifying: ACV rinses
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RO: VO5 KLS or Shea Cashmere, Renpure Brazilian Keratin or Argan, Cure Care, SNTC
LI (if needed): Renpure Argan, GFBB, RBKSC
Stylers: AIF, HESMU, got2b playful pomade
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