Is it impossible to find a leave in condish that doesn't test on animals?!

And leave-in condish is very important to my routine! Once a week I use regular condish in the shower to cleanse my scalp(which was today), but other than that every day I get my hair wet with cold water, scrunch my hair loosely in a towel, and blot any areas that are dripping wet, and apply leave-in condish, than apply hair gel, so I really need it, so anyone know of any that I can get at either Sally's beauty or a drugstore like Walgreens, that isn't more than $5.00?
Cleanser: Liquid Castile Soap diluted in a foaming soap dispenser
Rinse:
ACV rinse
Detangler/Conditioner:
Oyin Handmade Greg Juice or Juices and Berries
Stylers: Botticelli Botanicals Styling Mudd, KCCC, Honey Rinses and BRHG, Crack Leave-in Hair Cream when straightening

Tools: Silk pillowcase, Floursack towels, Jersey T-Shirts, Wide Tooth Comb, Velecta Paramount TGR-VQX Hair Dryer (for when I straighten) and BaByliss PRO Ionic Rollabout Hard Hat Dryer
Some people use their regular co wash conditioner as a leave in, which might be an option. As for leave in's that are actually made for leaving in I'm not sure, I've only used SheaM.
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You could try a cheap v05 or White Rain conditioner as a leave in.
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I just use a small amount of my Aubrey Organics stuff. It's all earth friendly and it does the trick!
I've tried using a regular conditioner as a leavein and it doesn't work like the leave-in I am using right now(which I'm not getting again because they test on animals), but than again I only tried one conditioner, I'm might try some Vo5, if more research doesn't come up with a leave-in.
Cleanser: Liquid Castile Soap diluted in a foaming soap dispenser
Rinse:
ACV rinse
Detangler/Conditioner:
Oyin Handmade Greg Juice or Juices and Berries
Stylers: Botticelli Botanicals Styling Mudd, KCCC, Honey Rinses and BRHG, Crack Leave-in Hair Cream when straightening

Tools: Silk pillowcase, Floursack towels, Jersey T-Shirts, Wide Tooth Comb, Velecta Paramount TGR-VQX Hair Dryer (for when I straighten) and BaByliss PRO Ionic Rollabout Hard Hat Dryer
Giovanni Direct Leave-In is a little more expensive (8 dollars), but is available at Target, Kroger, and several other stores. I am pretty sure they don't do animal testing. It is CG and many here love it. I actually haven't tried it yet, but I am dying to when I use up some of the products I have.
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Current Routine:
-Suave Aloe & Waterlily cowash/leave-in
-Giovanni Direct Leave-In
-FOTE aloe vera gel

Last edited by franfaircloth; 06-23-2008 at 10:45 AM. Reason: stupid smiley, I really meant to type that
There's the Beauty Without Cruelty line. It seems like their leave-in has pretty good reviews too
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Here we go again (sigh). It is probably impossible to find anything for hair that doesn't include SOME ingredient that at SOME point in time was NOT tested on animals.

I'd like to see someone point me to any hair product that has no ingredients that were never tested on animals in the history of time.

You can find products by companies that don't test on animals now, but I honestly don't think that you'll ever find a product that doesn't have ingredients that were not tested at some point. If you search, we've done a LOT of threads on this issue.
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Maybe try the Body Shop line? Their products are not animal tested although you'll have to search for cone free stuff.
*sighs* I am tired of hearing people say that, I didn't ask about that susancnw, I asked about leave-ins that don't test on animals. Besides, things (mostly my body wash and stuff like that), seem to be gentler on my skin, and my skin doesn't break out like with others. I'll check out Beauty Without Cruelty.
Cleanser: Liquid Castile Soap diluted in a foaming soap dispenser
Rinse:
ACV rinse
Detangler/Conditioner:
Oyin Handmade Greg Juice or Juices and Berries
Stylers: Botticelli Botanicals Styling Mudd, KCCC, Honey Rinses and BRHG, Crack Leave-in Hair Cream when straightening

Tools: Silk pillowcase, Floursack towels, Jersey T-Shirts, Wide Tooth Comb, Velecta Paramount TGR-VQX Hair Dryer (for when I straighten) and BaByliss PRO Ionic Rollabout Hard Hat Dryer
I did answer your question. You just didn't see it. I have been under the impression that leave in conditioner IS a hair product. Hence my reply.
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Why do I bother? You can say that all you want but it won't stop me, or anyone else for that matter, from finding products that aren't tested on animals.
Cleanser: Liquid Castile Soap diluted in a foaming soap dispenser
Rinse:
ACV rinse
Detangler/Conditioner:
Oyin Handmade Greg Juice or Juices and Berries
Stylers: Botticelli Botanicals Styling Mudd, KCCC, Honey Rinses and BRHG, Crack Leave-in Hair Cream when straightening

Tools: Silk pillowcase, Floursack towels, Jersey T-Shirts, Wide Tooth Comb, Velecta Paramount TGR-VQX Hair Dryer (for when I straighten) and BaByliss PRO Ionic Rollabout Hard Hat Dryer
I don't really understand the point anyway.

Product A from company A: currently tests products on animals.

Product B from company B: does not test products on animals, but contains blahblah chloride that was tested on animals by company C in 1902.

So what? May as well just go with company A because company B has an ingredient in it that was previously tested on an animal somewhere in the "history of time"?

I just don't get it, but maybe I'm missing something. As far as the OP goes, I can't find a leave in under $5 let alone one with your specifics. lol
One additional thought--some curlies on the boards use products like coconut oil, olive oil, or even a little shea butter as leave ins with great results. You might want to give one of these items a try as they are easy to find, aren't tested on animals (and don't even contain anything that was), and can be pretty cheap compared to the cost of most hair products. I don't know if this will help, but I thought it might...

BTW--I tried using VO5 as a leave in and it made my hair super poofy and frizzy. Some on the boards get great hair with it, but others turn to frizzballs because of a cheaper softener that is in the ingredients (can remember the name right now), so watch out for that if you use it as a leave-in.
botticelli-ish bob.

Current Routine:
-Suave Aloe & Waterlily cowash/leave-in
-Giovanni Direct Leave-In
-FOTE aloe vera gel
Why do I bother? You can say that all you want but it won't stop me, or anyone else for that matter, from finding products that aren't tested on animals.
Originally Posted by Curls=Beauty
Good luck with that. There are companies out there (BWC is one) that do not currently test on animals, but you will never find a hair product that does not contain something that was at one time tested on animals.
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Aubrey Organics does make leave ins that are designed as leave ins, but, they are not under $5 and most likely not at the drugstore. However, their products tend to be very concentrated so a $10 one of those might last more than twice as long as a $5 bottle of something else. I second the recommendations to experiment with leaving in some of your rinse out, and/or with coconut oil or shea butter.

And... I don't really get why this is an argument either. Trying to practice active consumerism to limit present and future animal testing is moot since we don't have a time machine to go back and untest all the prior animals?
The point is yes, there may be something in it that was maybe earlier tested on an animal, but the company doesn't test there producst on animals. Testing on animals is wrong, they shouldn't do it just so that we can have products to use, you wouldn't like it if they forced stuff on you to see if it was poisonous now would you? I might try Aubry Organics, but for now I'm going to use Vo5 conditioner. I love rodents mostly guinea pigs, but I like rats (don't see why some people think they are aggressive, I kow a lot of people with male rats and they are as gentle as angels), hamsters, gerbils, etc. too.


ETA- I want to get all Kiss My Face products, but can't at least not right now. They have everything you could want, it's organic and they don't use anything that was tested on animals nor do they test on animals. You can see for yourself in the ingredient list.
Cleanser: Liquid Castile Soap diluted in a foaming soap dispenser
Rinse:
ACV rinse
Detangler/Conditioner:
Oyin Handmade Greg Juice or Juices and Berries
Stylers: Botticelli Botanicals Styling Mudd, KCCC, Honey Rinses and BRHG, Crack Leave-in Hair Cream when straightening

Tools: Silk pillowcase, Floursack towels, Jersey T-Shirts, Wide Tooth Comb, Velecta Paramount TGR-VQX Hair Dryer (for when I straighten) and BaByliss PRO Ionic Rollabout Hard Hat Dryer

Last edited by Curls=Beauty; 06-25-2008 at 08:44 PM.
The point is yes, there may be something in it that was maybe earlier tested on an animal, but the company doesn't test there producst on animals. Testing on animals is wrong, they shouldn't do it just so that we can have products to use, you wouldn't like it if they forced stuff on you to see if it was poisonous now would you? I might try Aubry Organics, but for now I'm going to use Vo5 conditioner. I love rodents mostly guinea pigs, but I like rats (don't see why some people think they are aggressive, I kow a lot of people with male rats and they are as gentle as angels), hamsters, gerbils, etc. too.


ETA- I want to get all Kiss My Face products, but can't at least not right now. They have everything you could want, it's organic and they don't use anything that was tested on animals nor do they test on animals. You can see for yourself in the ingredient list.
Originally Posted by Curls=Beauty
I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but looking at the ingredients for some of the KMF hair products, they're not all natural. I'm sure cyclomethicone (in their miss treated shampoo) or behentrimonium methosulfate (in their miss treated conditioner) are not all natural and at some point, must have been tested on animals. While the company probably does not actively test on animals, it looks like they don't have issues about using ingredients that most likely have been tested that way.
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Here's a debate point for someone to disprove.

From the KMF website:
Do you test on animals?

Since our humble beginnings on an organic farm in upstate New York, Kiss My Face has not used ingredients that were tested on animals nor tested our finished products on animals.
ETA: http://www.kissmyface.com/faqpage.html

Last edited by Kitara; 06-26-2008 at 08:17 AM.

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