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Old 09-11-2008, 04:57 PM   #1
 
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Question why does magnesium sulfate make my hair curl so well?

Does anyone know?

And does anyone know of an equally effective natural equivalant? My hair absolutely cannot tolerate the mag sulfate after a day or two. But it works so darn well that first day!!!!
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Old 09-11-2008, 06:04 PM   #2
 
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Have you tried using a rotation? That helped me back when I was in love with Noodlehead curl creme.
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Old 09-12-2008, 05:56 AM   #3
 
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I dunno but it sure hates my hair. I love the curls I get - absolutely amazing. In fact I almost used jessicurl today but made myself not do it. I can only use it one day and by the end of the day - frizz city but lots of curls under all the frizz. And I am not one to have a lot of frizz normally.
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Old 09-12-2008, 06:07 AM   #4
 
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Here's my take on the subject...
Part of the reason that curly hair does just that, curl, is because of its structure - it contains disulfide bonds which cause it to bend this way and that way. Because Magnesium Sulfate contains sulfate, it strengthens or forms more of those disulfide bonds which causes hair to appear curlier.
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Old 09-12-2008, 06:51 AM   #5
 
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I'm a stylist....fskatergirl is absolutely right, but as to your question about a natural alternative, Mag. sulfate IS natural, all it is is epsom salt. Jessicurl is the most natural product you're likely to find with it in it. You could always try making your own curl spray with it in it.
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Here's my take on the subject...
Part of the reason that curl hair does just that, curl, is because of its structure - it contains disulfide bonds which cause it to bend this way and that way. Because Magnesium Sulfate contains sulfate, it strengthens or forms more of those disulfide bonds which causes hair to appear curlier.
that makes so much sense... you're a genius!
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Old 09-13-2008, 06:48 AM   #7
 
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thanks for all of the replies and explanations....I didn't realize that mag sulfate was epsom salt....that's very interesting....I just wish it didn't dry out my hair so darn much...I've been playing around with using it over top of Sheam and with other massively moisturizing products, but it doesn't seem to be counteracting the drying...
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Old 09-13-2008, 09:37 AM   #8
 
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Freeman makes a nice spray that has mag sulfate and is CG I believe(I think it has a peg in it) and it smells awesome. It's under $5
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Old 07-21-2011, 06:59 PM   #9
 
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would still be interesting though to learn about some other alternatives that work to give curl because some of us just can't handle that mag sulfate. Are there any other natural stuff that can be used???
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Old 07-21-2011, 07:05 PM   #10
 
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Some people use magnesium oil instead. It seems to enhance curls just as well without being as drying. Kathymack sells samples if you want to try it.
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You can buy mag oil at many health food stores. It doesn't cost much, about $4 for a 4 oz bottle. Its really good to add to a bath too, very relaxing and is great if you have sore muscles.
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Old 07-21-2011, 07:36 PM   #12
 
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I will keep this in mind, but as for the hair to get curl enhancing work, where in my regimen would I put it? With curl enhancing jelly, gel, where???And it won't make it more weighed down, my hair I mean?
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I'm interested in this as well. I just wonder whether it isn't the sulfate that causes the curl - and the dryness.
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Old 07-22-2011, 06:58 AM   #14
 
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I recently made a hair spray with water, about 2 tablespoons of conditioner and 1/2 teaspoon of epsom salts. I put it all in a 12 oz. spray bottle I recycled from some other product. I spray it on my hair right before I put on my products. I use this every other day to see how my hair reacts. So far I'm liking the result. Will be thinking about adding 1 teaspoon of honey to see how it works when the dews are down a little.
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Old 07-22-2011, 10:32 AM   #15
 
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I've been wondering about this too.

I go on a NO SULFATE regime.. the CG method.. because sulfates are bad for my hair, right?

I know that when I am in other areas where the water is hard and full of minerals, my hair has amazing curl!

So my question is, what minerals can I add safely? I'm thinking the magnesium oil may be one? I wish it was as easy as adding epsom salts but I'm thinking if I'm going to do that, I might as well start using shampoo again.
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Old 07-22-2011, 02:14 PM   #16
 
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Check this stuff out: Ion Moisturizing Treatment. My hair loves it as a leave-in and it has mag sulfate (although low in the list). It is CG and very moisturizing too. It also smells nice, but not very strong. I think it is my fave leave-in right now. Oils, protein, mag sulfate, oh my!

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I'm hoping AIgirl or another knowledgable poster comes on here! I can tell you that mag sulfate and sodium lauryl sulfate and the like are not the same thing. I can't explain why, however! Lol!

But a lot of cg curlies use Epsom, so you should be fine. ODing on it can be drying, though.
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Old 03-25-2012, 06:08 PM   #18
 
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Whoops! Just noticed there already WERE some responses explaining it! Lol!

A hint that has helped me - a good LI under it helps, and then scrunching in some light oil after its dry helps, too!!

And yes - don't use it everyday of you find it particularly drying.
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