I don't have bangs...I don't want bangs...but what am I supposed to do with this?

I haven't had bangs since 8th grade, and I don't want them. At least, I don't think I do.

The problem is that my hair is so damn thick that even when it dries clipped and off my face, or if I pixiecurl and it's well away from my face, as soon as I leave the house and take out any clips I have in, it's DIRECTLY in my eyes because it's just so heavy. It's a great look, too - all this nice S curl and spirled ends, tons of volume and movement...and then this fat lock of hair that just goes BLECH - straight down from my forehead.

But I hate bangs!!!! And I abhor haircuts (how the hell do you think I managed to get my hair this long??? *lol*) - I just don't trust that anyone is ever going to give me what I want, and then I'll be stuck with a hideous haircut until I can grow it out again. So what am I supposed to do? Just deal with the annoying shock of hair that won't stay put? Bite the bullet and have it shaped? Get (or decorate) some really cute clips that I can wear all the time? I just want to wear my beach hair without constantly having to push it out of my eyes.

Oh yeah - and I've tried switching my hair over to the other side after it dries one way...it doesn't help. I'd need about a pound of hairspray to hold it, and I hate hairspray almost as much as I hate haircuts.
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Last edited by BotticelliBabe; 10-17-2008 at 09:37 AM.
You don't need bangs.. sometimes I get a curl clump or two that just insists on landing in my face. I restrain it with one of these for first day hair and usually the curl is okay to wear loose for second day hair.

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You don't need bangs.. sometimes I get a curl clump or two that just insists on landing in my face. I restrain it with one of these for first day hair and usually the curl is okay to wear loose for second day hair.
Originally Posted by SpunGold
I used to have some of those...my hair laughed and spat them out It's just so thick that nothing seems to hold it back!

Hmm...I wonder if I should get some bobby pins (which I also hate cuz I can never find all of the $#@*%& things, but at least they have a chance of being concealed) and try my root clip trick with them. They might actually stay put because I can use like 50 of them and they wouldn't be as noticeable as my little jaw clips.

Grr! I hate this! Just when I think I love my hair, it does something stupid that I can't explain or stop, and then I hate it again. I swear it only behaves for a month at a time, and then it's bad for two. Maybe StruttsWife has a suggestion for me (hoping she's reading this)...?
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I finally did break down and have mine cut a few months ago, just before trying out CG, not quite with bangs but a lot shorter than it was - supposedly to try to achieve some lift and blend it into the angled side so that, in theory, it'd stay back better (I have a very insistent natural part on the left, so this is to the right side). Well, it didn't work. Now it's just a shorter hank that still insists on falling forward, and now I can't even pull it back well. So, I'm trying to grow it back out.

That piece is just very heavy and, as one of my stylists described it, "forward growing". It's so insistent, that maybe actual bangs across there would work, but I just can't see how with it so curly . . . have thought of trying a longer, straight, tapered-to-one side bang but am afraid keeping it straight would be a nightmare - Don't think just pulling it to the side and drying it straight as Rudeechick does would work, and I don't want to get into the damage (not to mention the hassle) of a straightening iron.

Still nearly always end up putting it half up not long into my day, just like before cutting it, only now it's harder to get it to stay up - still end up with that *$&@! chunk hanging in my eyes half the time. I try clipping every which way - including the recent twist clipping which I still haven't mastered - drying it backwards instead of upside down, etc. but nothing ever really works. For me, at least, I think longer where I can at least control it better works best.

I'm going for my first actual Deva cut next week, so I'm going to discuss with her and see if she can offer any new ideas . . . will let you know if we come up with anything that actually works.

Right now I have one of these clips holding just that piece back on the side (not all of it half up like most days):
www.sallybeauty.com/Magic-Grip-Hairpins/GOODHR1,default,pd.html
Today it curled in such a way that it's holding well without looking like there's a clip in there, but lot of times it doesn't work out so well. The clips always hold/hide well (mine's tortoiseshell color, but they also come in clear), but some days you can still see some tension on it and that it's pulled back. Today you can't.

I know none of this helped, except maybe to decide whether to/not to cut yours - I'm just commiserating!
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Now I see Spungold suggested the same clips - they stay/hold in my hair a lot better than bobby pins. Hide/blend better, too.
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Now I see Spungold suggested the same clips - they stay/hold in my hair a lot better than bobby pins. Hide/blend better, too.
Originally Posted by auntnett
*sniff* Not for me. For some reason, I put those things in my hair, and they just buck back and slide right out. I think it's because they don't have any real spring to them like bobby pins - the plastic just gets bent out of shape and can't put itself back, so they just come right out.

At least when I use bobby pins, I can use smaller sections of hair that can be held - with those plastic things, I had to use bigger sections, and I think that just compounded the problem.

In any case, I'll be very interested to hear what your stylist says when you go in for your Deva cut!!
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Last edited by BotticelliBabe; 10-17-2008 at 10:52 AM.
How do you use them?

I ask because I also had trouble with them falling out when I first got them. 'Course I'd never used bobby pins before either and kept shoving too much hair in them. (My hair is really thick too) I figured it out when I read the "how to pin" section in the back of the Strictly Curls book - it's about using bobby pins, but I applied the technique to the hair pins too.

So the way I use them now is I grab the entire offending clump, shove it in the pin so it's captured in the round section, then take the claw section and insert it in my hair and shove it toward the roots and the front of my head. For me it holds really securely all day. To me it feels "backwards" from how I expected them to be worn.

Forgive me if I'm beating a dead horse...

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I know what you mean. My hair is very heavy and thick in that area, too, so at my last hair appt. I finally broke down and had actual bangs cut in and guess what -- I LOVE them!! Since my hair isn't super, super curly, they look fine. I use a round brush just on the bangs to dry them and it works fine. I've gotten tons of compliments and everyone seems to like it better. I really like it now when I put my hair up because it softens my face and doesn't look so severe as it did with no bangs. I figured if I didn't like them it was no big deal - they'll grow back. But then, my hair is nowhere close to as long as yours, either.
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Don't cut bangs! I did it and have regretted it ever since.

I have a rogue lock of hair smack in the middle of my forehead that flops forward no matter what I do to avoid it. Finger curls? It laughed in the face of that danger. Blow drying it back? Ha! Nothing. NOTHING could tame this lock of hair!

So I just decided to pull a small section on top back and secure them with bobby pins. Now, bobby pins as a rule don't like me and I have a mutual regard for them. I hope I can 'splain it.

I take a small section (usually start gathering in the hair right above the arch of my eyebrows) and pull it back about 3 inches. Then I take a bobby pin on one side to secure it and still holding the sectioned piece, take another bobby pin on the other side and make sure they cross in the middle. I take another two bobby pins and cross them directly behind the other bobby pins.

It looks kinda like this when I'm done, but with curly hair.



My sister has thicker hair than I. Insanely thick hair and she uses 2 of the snappy clips. Like the ones misfitcurls used on her video on how she gets lift.
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No...going no-poo or CG does not work for me. It leaves me overconditioned and oily in a second no matter what I use, so that's not what's not working.
Don't cut bangs! I did it and have regretted it ever since.

I have a rogue lock of hair smack in the middle of my forehead that flops forward no matter what I do to avoid it. Finger curls? It laughed in the face of that danger. Blow drying it back? Ha! Nothing. NOTHING could tame this lock of hair!

So I just decided to pull a small section on top back and secure them with bobby pins. Now, bobby pins as a rule don't like me and I have a mutual regard for them. I hope I can 'splain it.

I take a small section (usually start gathering in the hair right above the arch of my eyebrows) and pull it back about 3 inches. Then I take a bobby pin on one side to secure it and still holding the sectioned piece, take another bobby pin on the other side and make sure they cross in the middle. I take another two bobby pins and cross them directly behind the other bobby pins.

It looks kinda like this when I'm done, but with curly hair.



My sister has thicker hair than I. Insanely thick hair and she uses 2 of the snappy clips. Like the ones misfitcurls used on her video on how she gets lift.
Originally Posted by SunshineGrrl
This is exactly what I do as well. My hair is super thick too, and I do have bangs (growing out the short cut), so this trick is a life saver for me. Still wish i had some other options though, different style ideas that get it off my face.
Lets do a search for some pics to try out.
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How do you use them?

I ask because I also had trouble with them falling out when I first got them. 'Course I'd never used bobby pins before either and kept shoving too much hair in them. (My hair is really thick too) I figured it out when I read the "how to pin" section in the back of the Strictly Curls book - it's about using bobby pins, but I applied the technique to the hair pins too.

So the way I use them now is I grab the entire offending clump, shove it in the pin so it's captured in the round section, then take the claw section and insert it in my hair and shove it toward the roots and the front of my head. For me it holds really securely all day. To me it feels "backwards" from how I expected them to be worn.

Forgive me if I'm beating a dead horse...
Originally Posted by SpunGold
I don't worry about getting the hair into the round part and then shoving it in, and unless I'm having trouble sticking it into a real thick spot, I don't usually open or spread them like you do with a bobby pin - I just make sure the clump I want to pin up/back is between the points and slide it in any old way, and they usually work fine. I think I usually do it with the tips pointed in the opposite direction of where I want the hair to go, if you can visualize that: forward if I'm pulling the hair back, down if I'm pulling it up. That sort of stabilizes it and anchors it against your noggin - same as you'd insert side combs in the opposite direction to anchor them - although, like bobby pins, they haven't been much in use in recent years, so a lot of you young 'uns might not have used them either.

Oh, MsGiblet, please post a pic of your bangs!
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Oh, MsGiblet, please post a pic of your bangs!
Originally Posted by auntnett
LOL -- I'll try to get that done this weekend.
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Ooooo, thanks! It might help me decide what to have done when I get mine cut Tuesday.
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Those clips slide out of my hair too, and I thought it was because mine was thin.

But I wonder if it is just because mine is shiny/smooth, even though curly? They stay in on my 2nd day don't feel like washing my hair frizzball days.

eta: I love love love bobby pins. Love em.

Those clips slide out of my hair too, and I thought it was because mine was thin.

But I wonder if it is just because mine is shiny/smooth, even though curly? They stay in on my 2nd day don't feel like washing my hair frizzball days.

eta: I love love love bobby pins. Love em.
Originally Posted by oreosmakemehappy
I've had that problem with soft smooth hair & clips falling out. Sometimes it helps to spray a little gel on the clips before putting them in.
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I do the same as Sunshinegirrl and AprilnUtah but I use a little kids claw clip. They make them in brown (hard to find in the stores) so they "hide" in my hair. They work really well to keep those face strands back. I pull them to the left or right sometimes too for a change.
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Last edited by eche428; 10-17-2008 at 01:44 PM.
Those clips slide out of my hair too, and I thought it was because mine was thin.

But I wonder if it is just because mine is shiny/smooth, even though curly? They stay in on my 2nd day don't feel like washing my hair frizzball days.

eta: I love love love bobby pins. Love em.
Originally Posted by oreosmakemehappy
That could be the case. Usually when I use them, it's on second day hair. Today's is just-washed and it's silky/smooth curls, but I only have one small clump clipped back. I'll have to pay more attention and see if it usually works on these kind of days.
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I do the same as Sunshinegirrl and AprilnUtah but I use a little kids claw clip. They make them in brown (hard to find in the stores) so they "hide" in my hair. They work really well to keep those face strands back. I pull them to the left or right sometimes too for a change.
Originally Posted by eche428
Ditto on using the little kids, baby claw clip. I use a black one and hide it in my hair. It works out great for me!

Did you ever hear that nursery rhyme, "There was a little girl, who had a little curl, right in the middle of her forehead." That is totally me! It is THE BEST curl on my head, if only because it consistently curls the same way. Too bad it's right in front .

ETA: I also use these little baby ones on the side of my hair some times to give it height. I take a piece of underneath hair and scrunch it up into the baby clip a little bit. Then let the curls fall over it, so they are boosted up. It sounds weird, but it works.
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Last edited by Celebration; 10-17-2008 at 05:43 PM. Reason: added about sides of head
I second the use of little claw clips. I like to style my hair like the picture of the straightie above (only wavy) with one 1-inch claw clip. I used to use bobby pins for that, but they hurt my scalp and were hard to remove. The claw clip was something new I tried today and so far I don't feel as sore. Headbands are another option but it's hard to find big, stretchy ones that don't slide off (for me, anyway). Good luck!
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Oh, MsGiblet, please post a pic of your bangs!
Originally Posted by auntnett
LOL -- I'll try to get that done this weekend.
Originally Posted by msgiblet
Ok, here's a pic, but it's not a not very good one. The bangs really do look better in person and even better if I hadn't taken the pic at the end of a long week. I'll try to take a better one later.

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