View Poll Results: Has using honey changed your hair color?
Yes, my hair color has changed since using honey. 6 28.57%
Well... maybe a little, but not enough for anyone but me to notice... 7 33.33%
No, I've noticed no change in color. 8 38.10%
Voters: 21. You may not vote on this poll

Honey - bleaching effect question...

Have you experienced this? I know the Curl Chemist article (http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlre...zz-about-honey) mentions the phenomenon, but I've also read that some are of the opinion that time plays a factor (i.e. the longer you leave it on, the more the peroxides have a chance to do their thing).

This bleaching possibility scares me to death! I'm looking for things to help me clump better, but I'm a natural redhead and I would cry myself to sleep for at least a month if something negative happened to my color!

IF you've noticed a bleaching effect, do you use honey as a leave-in? Or are you getting this with just a rinse or mixed with a rinse-out conditioner?

Thanks in advance!



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I'm a natural brunette, who colors red. I do notice a definite lightning of the red coloring with using honey. I don't know if it would do the same to a natural red. There was a thread that mentioned microwaving the honey before using, but that didn't work for me.
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Last edited by scarriecarrie; 10-25-2008 at 07:43 PM.
My changed a little. I definitely noticed it stripped some of my color when I was Robert Craig.
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I don't use it enough to notice a change, so I couldn't vote.
I didn't vote because my hair doesn't like honey. You could try it once or twice, see if your hair even likes it or you see a noticeable difference. If it doesn't do much, it's no big deal to give it up. If you REALLY like it, then you can decide if you want to take the chance.
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I'm a natural blonde who dyes red. I went from red to a shade of blonde lighter than my natural shade in about 10 days after using a leave-in that had honey in it. I was not happy considering what I pay for red hair.
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I use it in my DT, 'cause I want to lighten it a bit, it did a bit but not much.
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So what I think I'm hearing so far is that people who have dyed their hair have experienced a lot of the bleaching effect... and doesn't dying make your hair more porous?

I guess I'm wondering if more porous = more likely to bleach deeper. That could be a reach...



Hair is best when wabi-sabi.
2b/2c at this length, more 3a when shorter
M/C ii

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Using: Suave co-wash, GVP Conditioning Balm, Lustrasilk OOC, MGA, BRHG
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I'm a natural brunette, who colors red. I do notice a definite lightning of the red coloring with using honey. I don't know if it would do the same to a natural red. There was a thread that mentioned microwaving the honey before using, but that didn't work for me.
Originally Posted by scarriecarrie
So microwaving the honey doesn't make it lighten your hair? Or have I got it backwards?
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Perhaps, but my hair has tested as fairly non-porous. It floats in water for over 24 hours before sinking a little. Red fades more quickly than other dyed hair colors, but it was far accelerated with the honey.

I'm hoping some other natural redheads chime in because I wonder if it lightens natural reds as well.
Kiva! Microfinance works.

Med/Coarse, porous curly.
I'm a natural brunette, who colors red. I do notice a definite lightning of the red coloring with using honey. I don't know if it would do the same to a natural red. There was a thread that mentioned microwaving the honey before using, but that didn't work for me.
Originally Posted by scarriecarrie
So microwaving the honey doesn't make it lighten your hair? Or have I got it backwards?
Originally Posted by curlsAbound
The theory is that is destabilizes the peroxide in the honey so that it will not lighten the hair.
Kiva! Microfinance works.

Med/Coarse, porous curly.
The theory is that is destabilizes the peroxide in the honey so that it will not lighten the hair.

Oh man! I wanted it to lighten my hair but microwaved it a bit to make it easier to blend ... won't do that again!
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I have a theory. Perhaps only people who have died their hair experience lightening? Hmm. That leads to an interesting experiment. Is anyone interested? (yes, I know that many people probably don't want to risk their hair. I can't blame you. Maybe I could try wigs......) Where's a mad scientist smilie when you need one?
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Perhaps, but my hair has tested as fairly non-porous. It floats in water for over 24 hours before sinking a little. Red fades more quickly than other dyed hair colors, but it was far accelerated with the honey.

I'm hoping some other natural redheads chime in because I wonder if it lightens natural reds as well.
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
Are there some guidelines somewhere for testing the integrity of hair? I've never heard of your float test, but it sounds like something I'd like to try!



Hair is best when wabi-sabi.
2b/2c at this length, more 3a when shorter
M/C ii

Mod CG: Sept 08
Using: Suave co-wash, GVP Conditioning Balm, Lustrasilk OOC, MGA, BRHG
Humectants: @ dew point 40+
My blog for dry climate curlies and growing out a pixie: Colorado Curly
I'm a natural brunette, who colors red. I do notice a definite lightning of the red coloring with using honey. I don't know if it would do the same to a natural red. There was a thread that mentioned microwaving the honey before using, but that didn't work for me.
Originally Posted by scarriecarrie
So microwaving the honey doesn't make it lighten your hair? Or have I got it backwards?
Originally Posted by curlsAbound
The theory is that is destabilizes the peroxide in the honey so that it will not lighten the hair.
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
Do we know where that theory came from? I'd like to investigate!



Hair is best when wabi-sabi.
2b/2c at this length, more 3a when shorter
M/C ii

Mod CG: Sept 08
Using: Suave co-wash, GVP Conditioning Balm, Lustrasilk OOC, MGA, BRHG
Humectants: @ dew point 40+
My blog for dry climate curlies and growing out a pixie: Colorado Curly
I read "The theory is that is destabilizes the peroxide in the honey so that it will not lighten the hair." on LHC, I've been lurking at the honey thread there.
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http://public.fotki.com/HerfstHaar/hair/
I use a honey rinse in the shower every time I wash my hair, and I have only noticed a little bit of highlighting from the honey. I have natural light brown hair with sort of gold and red tones in it, but it hasn't made my hair blonde or red or anything lol. I think it could definitely be a problem if you dye your hair though.
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Could honey lighten naturally blonde hair? I've never tried honey, I don't know why, I've certainly thought about it, but I haven't the slightest idea what to do with it.
My hair's naturally black, and I have not noticed any lightening or anything, and I mix it into my conditioner pretty often.
Could honey lighten naturally blonde hair? I've never tried honey, I don't know why, I've certainly thought about it, but I haven't the slightest idea what to do with it.
Originally Posted by Annarie101
you can use it as a rinse, or mix it in conditioner (thats what i do, 50/50) then leave it on for most of your shower& rinse at the end. do a search on the boards for more info, there are more threads out there
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