Long-haired curlies

I've been growing my hair out for a couple of years now and it is a few inches past BSL now. I feel like I need to reevaluate my products as I think my needs have changed now that I have so much hair.

I'm just wondering what other long-haired curlies are liking-- especially styling products. I feel like with this much hair I have to walk a line between enough control without weighing it down completely. Same goes with conditioners. I need good conditioning (especially considering how old the ends of my hair are) but I don't want to be completely coated. Does that make sense?

(I was thinking about KCCC but, reading the product description, wasn't sure if this would pull too much curl out. On the other hand, if it gives as much hold as I think it might, that might not be a problem. Sometimes it seems like massive-hold has the opposite effect.)

I'm word-vomiting now. Stopping.
Mid-back length 3a, red.
Currently using: Joico, Redken, LA Looks Curl Look gel, BRHG.
My hair is probably the longest it's ever been (just past BSL). I'm getting good curls, but I think the length is pulling curl out. I'm definitely due for a trim.

Right now I'm using KBB milk as my rinse-out and nectar as my leave-in. They're awesome, don't weigh me down at all, and have just the right amount of moisture. I use FOTE aloe vera gel for definition and HEBE gel. That has some good hold, but easily scrunched out.
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My hair is just past BSL when curly, about halfway down my back when pulled straight. I use V05 conditioner and totally twisted gel - WAY too much of it these days! :P

I layered it myself last week, though, because it was starting to get a little...square-ish. I cut the top layers considerably shorter and it's definitely been good for it.
Proudly CG since 8/10/06 - the story of my hair!
Type: 3a/b, very thick
Length: almost BSL wet
Products: Suave coconut conditioner, coconut oil, Totally Twisted gel

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I've been growing my hair out for a couple of years now and it is a few inches past BSL now. I feel like I need to reevaluate my products as I think my needs have changed now that I have so much hair.

I'm just wondering what other long-haired curlies are liking-- especially styling products. I feel like with this much hair I have to walk a line between enough control without weighing it down completely. Same goes with conditioners. I need good conditioning (especially considering how old the ends of my hair are) but I don't want to be completely coated. Does that make sense?
Originally Posted by happy-girl
Makes perfect sense! I hate the look/feeling of "too much"- both in terms of conditioning, as well as loading up on heavy product for hold.

(I was thinking about KCCC but, reading the product description, wasn't sure if this would pull too much curl out. On the other hand, if it gives as much hold as I think it might, that might not be a problem. Sometimes it seems like massive-hold has the opposite effect.)
Personally, I find that KCCC doesn't do much in terms of hold. It does mention something about "long-lasting hold" on the jar, but I consider it more of a curl enhancer w/conditioning properties (as compared to a product such as re:coil). I definitely use a gel on top of it- either bioterra or BRHG- sometimes I mix the two because I'm afraid of ending up weighted down by BRHG alone.

I'm word-vomiting now. Stopping.
LOL! It's not something I usually say, but "vomit" away. This is a good thread topic; I'm curious to hear what other long haired posters have to say.
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Shampoo bars w/Organic ACV rinses
KBB milk wash out, Super Silky leave-in
Donna Marie CCB, KCCC, FSG, and Cocoa Hemp Buttercream to scrunch the crunch.

2C/3A, slightly past BSL.
I use Herbal Essence Long Term Relationship Leave-in,Castor Oil and gel,they help keep my curls in check,especially the Castor Oil.
3B-3C, alittle past tailbone length,age:41 years
Is your hair fine or more coarse? Mine is very thick and coarse - it actually pulls my head back when it's wet, it's so heavy! I love TIGI Moisture Maniac for my regualr conditioner, but it's pretty pricey. I also dig Clairol Herbal Essences Hello Hydration - it work very well and smells YUMMY.

For styling, I use Curl Keeper by Curly Hair Solutions (after a leave-in condish) followed by a spray-in curl enhancer - I like Salon Selectives curl scrunching spray and FX Curl Spray. Spray gels are also good for me - Loreal makes a good one. I have trouble distributing regular gel evenly, and the sprays work well. You can also make spray gel - just mix a regular gel half & half with water in a spray bottle. Cheaper!

Hope that helps!
Waist length spirals - 3a/b
Fave co-wash: Suave Coconut
Fave shampoo: Batia & Aleeza, Chagrin Valley shampoo bars (once every 2 weeks)
Fave conditioner: Back to Basics green tea
DT: Curl Junkie banana/hibiscus
Styling: BotticelliBabe's gelee, brulee and butter - all natural and AWESOME!!!

I'm maybe an inch past BSL and heading for waist-length curls. I recently started experimenting with KCCC and while I really like it, so far I think I like Fuzzy Duck gel better, definitely in the summer at least. I've played with a few different kinds of gel and my hair seems to prefer the more liquid kind that can get a little crunchy. I think I've decided to stay away from super crunch because I do like to allow my curls to form around each other rather than just freezing them in place, if that makes sense. My hair does well with stylers with aloe in them, but straight aloe gel doesn't give me enough hold.

My hair is fine but thick, and I struggle with the balance of staying moisturized while not getting overconditioned. I tend to be somewhat loyal with my shower routine so I think it's working well - I tend to experiment more with stylers. I currently use and really like the products in my signature - perhaps that will be helpful to you.

Good topic! I'll definitely be watching what others have to say.

Location: Frisco, TX

Fia type: 3a/F/ii Pics! Updated 04/22/10
CO Wash: Suave Coconut
Leave-in: Deva Heaven in Hair
Current Styler: Fuzzy Duck Gel
finally at waist length!
I don't know if my hair is coarse or if there's just a ton of it but when I pull my hair back into a ponytail, it's freakishly thick. So much so that ponytails are now a source of neck pain. So... my hair is lierally a pain in my neck. Sad.

I've played with a few different kinds of gel and my hair seems to prefer the more liquid kind that can get a little crunchy. I think I've decided to stay away from super crunch because I do like to allow my curls to form around each other rather than just freezing them in place, if that makes sense.
(sigh) makes PERFECT sense. I think this sums up a big part of what annoying me right now. My hair is so long, it can't coil around itself because the sheer mass of it doesn't really allow it to move that much. Hmmm. Very interesting answers so far.

Last night I did a DT with Jessicurl WDT and then raked CK over soaking wet hair, scrunched with a towel then scrunched B&A gel on top, diffused 75% then slept on it in the wierd way I do. (with my hair going straight up over my pillow and down the back of my mattress.) I'm not too thrilled with the effect but it's not so bad I'll be thinking about it all day or anything.

No frizz... but it kind of looks like I got a perm in 1992 then loaded it up on hairspray. Maybe I should be thinking about this.
Mid-back length 3a, red.
Currently using: Joico, Redken, LA Looks Curl Look gel, BRHG.
When dry, my hair ranges from just below BSL clear uo to just below APL if I'm getting lots of shrinkage. When wet, it is now at the top of my hip.

My hair is coarse and farily voluminous. I love the KCCC. Some do use it for curl elongation, but Iuse it to get shrinkier curls. I think the application method determines what you'll get, and perhaps where you fall on the fine vs coarse, thin vs thick continuum.

I get plenty of hold from it, and second day hair with it is a given, when I put my hair to bed properly.
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Med/Coarse, porous curly.
Last night I did a DT with Jessicurl WDT and then raked CK over soaking wet hair, scrunched with a towel then scrunched B&A gel on top, diffused 75% then slept on it in the wierd way I do. (with my hair going straight up over my pillow and down the back of my mattress.) I'm not too thrilled with the effect but it's not so bad I'll be thinking about it all day or anything.

No frizz... but it kind of looks like I got a perm in 1992 then loaded it up on hairspray. Maybe I should be thinking about this.
Originally Posted by happy-girl
Happy-girl - have you tried plopping or overnight plopping at all? I've been experimenting with MsG's double-plopping method overnight and am getting pretty decent results. I always wash at night and air dry, so I'm always experimenting with overnight drying methods because I value my sleep. (I have the DevaFuser but only use it in the mornings if my roots still look damp)

Maybe after you've diffused your 75% you could gather your curls into a plop and sleep on it like that? (If you're a light sleeper it may not work for you - but I sleep like a rock! lol)

Location: Frisco, TX

Fia type: 3a/F/ii Pics! Updated 04/22/10
CO Wash: Suave Coconut
Leave-in: Deva Heaven in Hair
Current Styler: Fuzzy Duck Gel
finally at waist length!
My hair is just past BSL when curly, about halfway down my back when pulled straight. I use V05 conditioner and totally twisted gel - WAY too much of it these days! :P

I layered it myself last week, though, because it was starting to get a little...square-ish. I cut the top layers considerably shorter and it's definitely been good for it.
Originally Posted by Elithia
Ok, now you have to share how you did this, because I've got one area that needs shaping (haven't had a cut since Feb!! Yay me!). Maybe I'll start a thread on it so it gets more exposure from others who have taken matters into their own hands. Of course, that means I'll have to ban Speckla from the thread!!

Is your hair fine or more coarse? Mine is very thick and coarse - it actually pulls my head back when it's wet, it's so heavy! I love TIGI Moisture Maniac for my regualr conditioner, but it's pretty pricey. I also dig Clairol Herbal Essences Hello Hydration - it work very well and smells YUMMY.

For styling, I use Curl Keeper by Curly Hair Solutions (after a leave-in condish) followed by a spray-in curl enhancer - I like Salon Selectives curl scrunching spray and FX Curl Spray. Spray gels are also good for me - Loreal makes a good one. I have trouble distributing regular gel evenly, and the sprays work well. You can also make spray gel - just mix a regular gel half & half with water in a spray bottle. Cheaper!

Hope that helps!
Originally Posted by mdwileygrl
Be careful of the hello hydration if you aren't CG or if you're not clarifying regularly - it has a cone in it, and will build up and get gunky if you're not clarifying.

I think I might be one of the top five (maybe even three - not sure!) when it comes to length on this board, and I'm having the same issues you are. I want definition but no weight, curls (not waves) and no frizz, and ease/cost of use. At this point, I'm pretty sure KBB is my answer (even though it's a little spendy, it tends to eliminate the need for DTs, and I like that!), and now is a good time to try it because of the "buy two get one" sale she's running. I have some samples to try - I'll probably use them Thursday night so I have killer curls on Halloween.

Anyway, I've been liking CK and KY (CK on sopping wet freshly washed hair, KY for 2nd day and beyond to eliminate frizz), FOTE, and I just tried my homemade KCCC last night on my wet ends - it left my hair soft and nicely defined - I'll try it again tonight on sopping wet hair all by itself.

Also, have you tried L'oreal Vive Pro Nutri Gloss condish? It's been a great thing for me and a few others so far this fall - it'll most likely be my winter conditioner because I think it might be too heavy for spring and summer. But I really like it!

Here's a 100 post-long thread on it, but it's worth the time.

L'oreal Vive Pro Nutri Gloss conditioner - I might be in love!
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BB - thanks for pointing that out, about the 'cones - I can do 'cones for a while, but definitely NOT every time I cleanse; they actually make my hair straighter, or, to be exact, wavy rather than curly, if they build up. But man, the slip I get from that HEHH...le sigh!

Happy, don't get discouraged! You WILL find a routine that works for you! It took me about 3 months of experimentation and crappy hair to get good, happy hair. And I NEVER use the same stuff twice in a row...at least not ALL the same stuff. It just takes some time. We're all here for ya, honey!
Waist length spirals - 3a/b
Fave co-wash: Suave Coconut
Fave shampoo: Batia & Aleeza, Chagrin Valley shampoo bars (once every 2 weeks)
Fave conditioner: Back to Basics green tea
DT: Curl Junkie banana/hibiscus
Styling: BotticelliBabe's gelee, brulee and butter - all natural and AWESOME!!!

I have a love/hate relationship with plopping. I do get more curl but it tends to completely smash the front of my hair into my skull and I get a random part (usually right down the middle ) So, it makes one part of my hair look good and the other part like CRAP.

I do think it helps that I shower at night. I usually diffuse about 50-75% then sleep on it damp (as described above) and when I wake up, it's still slightly damp but has a lot of body and curl. IDK, something about sleeping on it and not allowing it to dry quickly seems to do good things for me.

At the same time, the added length still takes it's toll. Why can't I have my cake and eat it too?!?

I like the BRHG. I thought I would hate it after drying my hair last night but it was totally different in the AM. It softened up without losing the definition. I ordered some KCCC/KCKT which I hope to have by the weekend. I'm also playing with bar soaps (the jury is still out) and different conditioners. Sometimes I think the right styler is half the battle. (The other half is violence.)
Mid-back length 3a, red.
Currently using: Joico, Redken, LA Looks Curl Look gel, BRHG.
I have a love/hate relationship with plopping. I do get more curl but it tends to completely smash the front of my hair into my skull and I get a random part (usually right down the middle ) So, it makes one part of my hair look good and the other part like CRAP.
Originally Posted by happy-girl

I used to get the weirdness at the hairline too. A lot has to do with how your hair is plopped. I bend over and gather my hair into an unfastened ponytail on top of my head (think pineapple, if you're familiar with that technique but without the scrunchy) Then while still bent over, I plop it. This allows me to decide how to part my hair in the morning. I pull the plop down and kinda shake my curls to see how they fall.

Location: Frisco, TX

Fia type: 3a/F/ii Pics! Updated 04/22/10
CO Wash: Suave Coconut
Leave-in: Deva Heaven in Hair
Current Styler: Fuzzy Duck Gel
finally at waist length!
I have a love/hate relationship with plopping. I do get more curl but it tends to completely smash the front of my hair into my skull and I get a random part (usually right down the middle ) So, it makes one part of my hair look good and the other part like CRAP.
Originally Posted by happy-girl

I used to get the weirdness at the hairline too. A lot has to do with how your hair is plopped. I bend over and gather my hair into an unfastened ponytail on top of my head (think pineapple, if you're familiar with that technique but without the scrunchy) Then while still bent over, I plop it. This allows me to decide how to part my hair in the morning. I pull the plop down and kinda shake my curls to see how they fall.
Originally Posted by SpunGold
I agree with spungold. Also when you plop, don't let the top of your head touch the towel - hover your scalp about an inch or so above whatever surface you're plopping into, and that really helps with the flattop in the AM.
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BSL/Mid Back, thick 3a/b

Botticelli Botanicals Meringue
Botticelli Botanicals Smoothie
Botticelli Botanicals Styling Mudd w/ double avocado oil and double agave
Botticelli Botanicals Lime in the Coconut Butter
My has just reached waist-length when curly, and is just shy of hip when pulled straight. I wear it down less often now that it's so long, but when I do I like to keep it simple now with just a leave-in and a light gel, like Biotera. The Biotera is also great in that it's pretty cheap for the size you get, so I can use as much as I want without any qualms. This helps the curl keep from getting too weighed down but still gives me enough control to keep things in order.
3A low/medium porosity, medium texture

Current products:
Stylers: HE Tousle Me Softly, Condition 3-in-1 Mousse
Conditioners: Terax Crema, Mill Creek Botanicals Henna Conditioner
Cleanser: DevaCurl NoPoo

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