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Old 12-15-2008, 06:00 AM   #1
 
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Unhappy Please help! Moved from soft to hard water area!

I have finally found a routine that gives me hair I love, whilst at uni. Unfortunately for several months over the holidays I am back at home which is a hard water area and my hair has gone awful.

Immediately after rinsing my hair it turned greasy at the roots and felt coated. It is also frizzier and dryer, and has lost its curl. My scalp feels disgusting. I have never managed to go cg, or get remotely decent hair whilst living at home before- is this simply because of hard water???!!! (Though it is also colder here which might have an impact).

Usually I co-wash every 3/4 days with V05 and a little lemon juice. Every morning I condition, honey rinse, Boots curl creme and FSG.

Im desperate for any help or advice here. How do I get my lovely, soft, bouncy curls back?? Its even worse now that I have experienced a good hair day to go back to being a gigantic frizz head!!!
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Old 12-15-2008, 06:23 AM   #2
 
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I'm pretty sure it is the hard water that is causing your problem - we live in a hard(ish) water area too but we holiday in a part of France with very soft water - the difference whenever I wash my hair is amazing - my hair is soft and silky in the soft water area. Hard water will definitely dry hair and skin out - the only advice I can offer you is maybe to try washing and rinsing your hair with distilled water or boiled and then cooled water which will have removed some of the minerals that cause the hardness.

It's such a shame that hard water causes this dryness and frizziness - if we ever move I'm gonna research the hardness of the water first!!!!
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Old 12-15-2008, 06:56 AM   #3
 
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I remember there was a thread a while back about shower filters for curlies in hard water areas...lemme go find it...

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Good shower filter?
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Sorry- forgot to add that my parents refuse to have a water filter put on the shower because of cost- and because soft water is bad for your teeth. So Im afraid I dont have that option.
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Sorry- forgot to add that my parents refuse to have a water filter put on the shower because of cost- and because soft water is bad for your teeth. So Im afraid I dont have that option.
It's not really that soft water is bad for your teeth. It's just missing the calcium ions that can help with strong teeth. Besides..couldn't you put it to them that they aren't brushing their teeth with shower water, so they are still getting the benefits of the calcium from the tap water they actually put on their teeth? Also, soft water won't clog your showerhead, so you can reduce lime residue (read: cleaning time) in the shower. Maybe if you offered to help pay for it they'd be more receptive in the cost area??
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Old 12-15-2008, 07:43 AM   #6
 
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Dumb question here, but how do you know what your water type is? I'm in Toronto(pretty central)
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Dumb question here, but how do you know what your water type is? I'm in Toronto(pretty central)
Found this map of hard water areas in Canada:
http://www.systemsaver.com/windsor-w...-problems.html
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Old 12-15-2008, 08:29 AM   #8
 
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Thanks, yeah, I've got hard water.
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No they really wont consider putting in a filter- now would be the perfect time to as the bathroom is being re-done. I will try, however boiling up some water before I go for a shoer in the morning and using that on my hair- if you think this will help. Thank you for the suggestions!
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I'd like to know if anyone have info about a low cost filter. I have hard water but can't afford the filters I've seen in Denmark. Maybe It's possible to buy something online?

It seems silly to spend lots of money on high quality products if it's the water that sucks.
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You might want to try using a chelating shampoo once a week, which will remove the minerals off your hair. Also, an ACV rinse can help get the minerals and build-up out of your hair. Those would be my first choices to reduce hard-water nastiness.

I'm sort of a freak when it comes to hard water as my hair and skin love it! I get much better hair when it's "washed" with hard water. Go figure.

And oh, yeah...maybe some lighter styling products would help balance out the weight from the hard water?
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Edited due to a cyberstalker. Sorry, guys.

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Old 01-25-2009, 09:18 AM   #13
 
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Default Could it REALLY make that much of a difference?

According to the map on chagrin valley's site, I have lived in a soft water area my entire life (including college and then another move for grad school). We just moved to an area that is "slightly hard." the only effect i've noticed in my kitchen is the OCCASIONAL water spotting.

But could going to a "slightly hard" area be making a huge difference in my hair? it's been feeling coated and dry and horrible lately, and at first i thought it was a protein reaction to the Nutrigloss but now i'm not so sure.

We moved early December but I then spent 10 days with my parents around the holidays so i've only been here washing my hair in this water continuously for a month now.

before i stop looking for other culprits, i just wanted to ask if the change to the next level up really could be making this much of a difference. thanks ladies!
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You might want to try using a chelating shampoo once a week, which will remove the minerals off your hair. Also, an ACV rinse can help get the minerals and build-up out of your hair. Those would be my first choices to reduce hard-water nastiness.
I use Enjoy Clarifying Spray
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One of a kind spray-in clarifying and chelating formula, designed to remove mineral deposits, product build-up, chlorine, and/or other impurities in the har. Color safe for all hair types. (10 oz)
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw...+spray&x=0&y=0

I'm pretty sure it's CG. I read the ingredients and didn't see any no-no's. You spray it all over then put your sulfate-free poo, or whatever you use, on top of it and wash. I do it about once a week before my DT and it works great for me.
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I would say going from soft water to slightly hard would make some difference because soft water is soft and slightly hard still has some hardness.

I found when I went from extremely hard water to soft I noticed a big improvement in my hair's condition and when I went from soft to hard water I noticed my hair changing for the worse.

Robert Craig recommends using a hard water poo for even slightly hard water. Ouidad WW Poo is good too.

I am not sure but I don't think I ever got the coated feeling your mentioning with protein but hard water definitely gave me coated feeling.
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thanks for the product rec april!

does anyone know any hard water poos that are available at drugstores or sally's?
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Sally's has generic version of Nexxus Aloe Rid Clarifying Poo but I never used it but I did use the original and liked it. Sally's also has Quantum Clarifying Poo which I've heard some good things about but I've never used it. However, I have never seen them carry small bottles of it just liter size.
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well, i picked up the GVP of the nexxus aloe rid and used it this morning. my hair feels a little better, but still not great. i can't tell if it's the dryness from not having been properly conditioned for a couple weeks or a new layer of buildup from rinsing my condish out this morning.

i'm ready to start rinsing my hair with distilled water and just blowing up my hair care budget to accommodate that instead of nice products. if they're not going to condition my hair because it's coated with whatever the hell's in the water here then there's really not a point, eh?

i am so frustrated right now. i just want my hair to feel clean and soft. i don't even care about frizz and definition at this point. is that so much to ask, hair gods?! come on!
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I completely understand! My hair is highly effected by hard water. Final rinses of distilled water helped and the Ouidad WW Poo. I suggested the Aloe Rid cuz you mentioned Sally's but there are other hard water poos out there but it is a hard situation cuz one is still using the hard water. AG has a hard water poo called AG Renew that I have never used but heard it was good. Joico has a new one out. I've used the Kenra Clarifying Poo in the past but found it harsh but it is a chelating poo. I've tried alot of different hard water poos and it seemed the Ouidad WW Poo worked the best for my hair. Robert Craig has a No More Bad Hair Days kit that comes with water test strips and 3 poos one for soft, hard, and extremely hard. So that is another suggestion.
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I found I have to low poo or even just shampoo ever few days when I am at home now- just to get clean hair. My curls appreciate it to compared to be coated with the hard water.
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