how do you know if your protein sensitive?

I notice some people say that and I wonder what the heck does it really mean? how do you know if your protein sensitive??? what should I be looking for in products?
For the most part, if some says protein, hydrolized something-or-other, or some sort of amino acid, the substance will act like protein on hair.

I'd not avoid them unless they give you problems.

The main symptom is dry, straw-like hair that can turn brittle and lose curl definition. Overconditioned hair can lose definition, but it will feel soft. Too much protein, and your hair will feel like straw or summer grass.
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Everything in the above post is accurate, and I'd like to add that often, if you have a protein sensitivity and use protein, your hair might well feel dry and strawlike and scratchy even when wet in the shower. When you know that's what protein reactions are like, you'll KNOW if you have one. Lots of people can use protein with no problem, though.

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thanks! so I guess it doesn't affect one hair type more than another? I think my hair is 3b not sure its been kinda crazy lately. I'm going to try the MHC products... I ordered the coconut milk, sweet almond milk sample, honey hair exfoliator, creme 2 sample, honeynutt conditioner, and the honey hair mask. I want to move towards using more natural hair care and all of these sound sooo good I feel like my hair has been kinda of dry and my curls are undefined and freezy. Keep in mind that I live in Houston, Texas... humid! and right now its "winter" down here which means one day its hot and humid and the next day could be dry and freezing.
It seems to be more affected by coarse vs fine as opposed to hairtype.

There are exceptions, but, finer hair usually tolerates protein better than with coarse hair. Coarse hair has more layers, IIRC, and protein can add to that in a not-so-good way where it adds to fine hair in a good way.
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oh crap. I wonder if I could be protein sensitive? I don't have fine hair at all... its very thick and I have lots of hair. Sometimes when I get frustrated with it and go straighten it at a salon they always complain about how much hair I have. I have to get a picture up here soon! does any of what I mentioned sound like it has protein even though its all natural? I can't wait to try them even though I've gotten mixed reviews about mhc
it's hard to say. I'm not familiar with the ingredient listing on those items, although I'd bet that the almond one has protein.

Have big, or lots of hair doens't necessarily mean coarse. One can fine, yet thick hair. Coarse describes the actual size of each individual strand. You can easily feel a single coarse strand rubbed between two fingers, where it is harder for a fine strand. This thread may help you.

Natural doesn't always mean that it will work if you are using a natural product that has an ingredient that your hair dislikes. I see plenty of natural products with wheat protein, but my hair hates wheat. So, even though it is natural, it is not the best option for my hair.

If you are using products and getting drier and more tangly hair from them, I'd look for proteins first.
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thanks again! I'm going to pay more attention to this stuff because I don't want to straighten my hair anymore. It takes hard work to take care of curly hair you can't be lazy!
For me protein issues are very noticable. My hair absolutely hates wheat protein in anything. I can feel it the minute I put it on my hair...it gets tangled, frizzy and feels like straw. Other proteins I can handle in small doses and others like soy my hair seems to handle just fine. It becomes easier to tell when you start really paying attention to the feel of your hair which is what I have started doing more and more since going CG.
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My hair loves protein, but I have a tendency to overdo it. When that happens, my hair is frizzy and dry-looking even when it's soaking wet. A DT and a couple days of heavy moisture takes care of it.
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Hair will feel rough and tangly right after you add a protein conditioner even if it's still soaking wet and loaded with said conditioner. My hair dries tangly and looks like straw when I use wheat or any vegetable protein.
hmmm. thanks for all the awesome responses girls! I recently started using the aveda curl enhancer and it has hydrolized wheat protein in it. my hair feels soft and not tangly but it looks like it- the curls are ill defined and frizzy.
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hmmm. thanks for all the awesome responses girls! I recently started using the aveda curl enhancer and it has hydrolized wheat protein in it. my hair feels soft and not tangly but it looks like it- the curls are ill defined and frizzy.
Originally Posted by pinkmariposa
That could be too much protein and not necessarily a sensitivity to it. You might be able to use it at a time when you need protein.
It seems to be more affected by coarse vs fine as opposed to hairtype.

There are exceptions, but, finer hair usually tolerates protein better than with coarse hair. Coarse hair has more layers, IIRC, and protein can add to that in a not-so-good way where it adds to fine hair in a good way.
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
Really? I have fine hair (gets weighed down easily, can't use heavy stylers with lots of oils etc.) and I have protein sensitivity. I can handle it in poos and condishes but not styling products. Example: I tried the cocoa curly butter by donna marie; result: stiff hair, lost some definition, straw like and hard (not too too bad, but enough that I don't like it in my hair). That's interesting, I'd like to hear more about this topic it's interesting.
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my hair feels like it needs moisture and when i try to style it just feels dry as heck. well everytime i put mousse in it. idk what my hairs problem is. some sites are saying too much protein, not enough protein, needs moisture. im confused.
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thanks! so I guess it doesn't affect one hair type more than another? I think my hair is 3b not sure its been kinda crazy lately. I'm going to try the MHC products... I ordered the coconut milk, sweet almond milk sample, honey hair exfoliator, creme 2 sample, honeynutt conditioner, and the honey hair mask. I want to move towards using more natural hair care and all of these sound sooo good I feel like my hair has been kinda of dry and my curls are undefined and freezy. Keep in mind that I live in Houston, Texas... humid! and right now its "winter" down here which means one day its hot and humid and the next day could be dry and freezing.
Originally Posted by pinkmariposa
I didn't fine the honey mask great on its own, but I loved it added to richer MHC and non-MHC condishes (like OliveYou and Curl Rehab and CJ H&B) . It just adds a nice oomph to richer condishes, I find. Might wanna try that. And rinse really well. I find that it left a residue that had my hair looking oily, especially by day two.

And as far as protein: exactly right. When you use a protein product and have a reaction, you'll know it!

I thought I had over proteined back in March, but my hair was supersoft. I had actually overconditioned and misclassified it. I now know that I overmoisturize if I do too many deep condishes too close together after getting to a good moisturized state. It took ome 4 months to get to a good moisture state, but yeah, if you're droopy but soft, it's not the protein reaction.

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my hair feels like it needs moisture and when i try to style it just feels dry as heck. well everytime i put mousse in it. idk what my hairs problem is. some sites are saying too much protein, not enough protein, needs moisture. im confused
If your hair is indeed highly porous, you need protein. From the way you described it soaking up water in another thread, it does sound like porous hair. Protein temporarily seals the holes in hair and helps lock the moisture in.
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my hair feels like it needs moisture and when i try to style it just feels dry as heck. well everytime i put mousse in it. idk what my hairs problem is. some sites are saying too much protein, not enough protein, needs moisture. im confused.
Originally Posted by geminikiss
I find that mousse tends to be drying (that's how it gives a voluminous look, imo). If it's a volumizing mousse, whoo, those are drying. Did you read the ingredients? Alcohol?

If you think your hair is dry and needs moisture, then add moisture--use good rinse out condishes, do once a week deep condishes (with heat, or with a processing cap overnight). If you are fine-haired, maybe you also need some protein in there.

I had amazingly super crazy dry hair with mad porosity. Using good condishes got me to a nicely moisturized state, and yes, right now, I'm using tons of protein and have cut back on deep condishes (but I still precondish before washing and use a leave-in). My summer hair likes protein.

After going modified-CG, I heard for the first time from a hairdresser that my hair was in great shape and didn't even need the ends trimmed. That was new for me.
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I thought my hair was protein sensitive since I got the straw like crispiness when I used it So I avoided proteins altogether for a while until it started going limp. I realized that my hair needed protein from time to time. My hair (which is fine) enjoys silk protein but not does like wheat protein. So maybe it is just a question of finding the protein that agrees with your hair?

That is what I found.

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