Tips for thin/cowlick spot coverups! Spinoff

Ok...I am not bald on my crown but my hair is WEIRD back there! I am constantly holding up a mirror in the bathroom to check back there. Part of it is that I think my hair grows really weird back there - it looks like it is growing up - not down. Also, I think my natural part goes down my crown also separating my hair back there. My hair is also fine/thin so too much clumping can be an issue also.

I will often use a comb/denman brush on that area to try and get my hair to lay down/cover up that area. I also focus on that area when I am diffusing (again using a mirror to do the back) to make sure I am getting my hair 'unstuck' from my head back there. When my hair is dry and I am scrunching out any crunch I again focus on that area.

What do you other curlies with this issue do?
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My cowlick is in the front and that's really annoying as well. I hate it. I take a curling iron to mine, but I'd say a brush for the back sounds like what I'd do. What about a tiny bit of hairspray on it?
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What do you other curlies with this issue do?
Originally Posted by xcptnl
I have cowlick at my crown that annoys the heck out of me. I have to be careful when applying product, scrunching or diffusing.. or I can get it to stick completely straight up. Before drying, after making sure I have it laying in the direction I want it to go, I use a small duckbill clip to prevent it from popping up. Usually it works. But definitely at my crown, the hair grows in weird directions. It doesn't always lay nicely in the top/back. It also helps to comb the back section towards the back and clip the roots.. so I have a part to a little more than half way and then the rest is directed to the back.
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I use clips too. I have to do it while my hair is still damp after diffusing because once it's dry, it's stuck there.

The cowlicks stand straight up back there. If the rest of my roots looks like the cowlicks at the crown, my hair would be awesome every day.
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xcptnl-I would have thought you were describing my morning routine! I get so tired of messing with my cowlick with a mirror in hand. I probably mess with it about 6 times every morning as I style my hair (also fine and rather thin)! I have been able to get good results recently.

After I put in my leave-in CO, I turn my head upside down and get my fingers into my scalp to lift the cowlick hair. I then scrunch in product. While my hair is wet. I lift the top part of the cowlick (grab a small clump to the sides and the top of the cowlick) and clip it so I sort of have a puffy clump. This really exposes the bottom part of the cowlick so I do the same (grab and small clump of hair over this part of the cowlick and clip a puffy clump). I then diffuse my whole head including the clipped area. I just do a light shot on the clipped area though (standing upright). I then undo the clips while the hair is slightly damp. I then lift the hair over the cowlick while diffusing under it. I then clip the hair back together with just one clip (it is 95% dry at this point but I feel that clipping it while it is warm helps keep the clumps covering the cowlick). I go about my morning routine and then scrunch the crunch and then top it off with a little gel. It has been working very well to get coverage but there are still some mornings (maybe twice per month) where I have to put my hair 1/2 up as the cowlick is extra defiant. I usually find though that if I get decent coverage in the morning then by late afternoon it is still covered so that is good news!

Sorry for the long description but it is a really struggle and my "solution" involves way too many steps!
I've had stylists call it a split crown and a double crown - whatever it is, it's a PITA, and I feel your pain! It's not always perfect, but if I:
  • first make sure it doesn't split there while in the shower - I lean to one side for the final rinse so it doesn't divide at all - if I let it split at my very determined natural part then, there's little hope of anything keeping it from doing it later. And I don't wrap my hair up in a towel, microfiber or anything else, at this point. I just put a regular towel on my shoulders under my dripping hair then apply all my product. When I used to wrap it up turban-style, the problem was much worse and nothing helped.
  • Comb or Denman-brush products thru either right-side-up or upside-down then flip over and scrunch, scrunch, scrunch upside-down
  • if plopping (I sometimes don't), make sure it's still all raked forward and not already split in that area when I put it in the plop (for me, anywhere from 5-30 minutes)
  • partially diffuse upside down
  • clip the top, trying to strategically place a couple in that area, then continue with right-side-up diffusing (I usually leave it a little damp and finish air drying)
It usually works pretty well, but if after all that it still tries to split or swirl weirdly, I can usually rake it a little with my claw-shaped pick like this (mine's from Sally's but didn't see a picture on their site): www.beautyofnewyork.com/shopping/product_view.php?itemCode=WNNA210307KK0548 (doesn't smooth or break it up too much, so a lot better than brushing. I'll sometimes even give the roots one or two gentle back combs with this if needed) and give it a spritz of a fast-drying mod-CG hair spray like Aussie Catch the Wave or Instant Freeze, and it's good to go.
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HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

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Last edited by auntnett; 02-06-2009 at 10:18 AM.
I was just looking for a thread like this - thank you. Here's my ugly cowlick!

wet: http://www.7thsign.com/~izzy/boopix/cg/101808a.sized.jpg

dry: http://www.7thsign.com/~izzy/boopix/cg/011209b.sized.jpg

My new experiment/technique is to use a good ol fashioned pick. First, upside down, I slide the pick in against that part of my head and make sure it's flat against my head with the pick .. almost perpendicular to my scalp. I vibrate it gently just barely back and forth, which loosens the hairs off of my scalp and encourages them to fall toward gravity.

Upright myself and repeat, reaching up around and back there to get at it.

Too much vibration and I get frizz, of course. And I've learned the hard way that you have to use a brand new pick and not one with peeling plastic that would catch those fine hairs. (sheepish grin)

It's helping ... better than touching my hair with my hands does of course. YMMV, etc. I'm curious to see what else you (all) have found successful! I'm going to try some of the other techniques listed here!
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Current experiment is Co-Wash and Condition: V05 kiwi lime clarifying conditioner
Then KBB super silky, KCCC, then L'Oreal Melting Gel with a bit of GF Super Stiff mixed in.
Pre-toweling, post-toweling, pre-plop and post-plop. The jury is not out on the plopping thing. I think my hair is too fine.
fine / non-porous / thin aka 3"abba" / oh so Fine / just barely ii
Looks about like mine only mine's more on the back of my head - like a jagged continuation of my left sided natural part.

ETA: Have you watched the root brush video in the Curly Hair Solutions ad? What he says about brushing in the opposite direction of hair growth makes sense, but I can't figure out at a way to do that and incorporate the other scrunching and plopping, etc. that I need without undoing it!
2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

www.fotki.com/auntnett

Last edited by auntnett; 02-06-2009 at 10:25 AM.
Mine splits right in the middle where my hair line is, and not only does it split in the middle, the hair grows straight up so it looks like the McDonalds arches, and it really emphasizes the widow's peak I have. I feel your pain. Mine is sooo stubborn, I don't know how to deal with it.
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ETA: Have you watched the root brush video in the Curly Hair Solutions ad? What he says about brushing in the opposite direction of hair growth makes sense, but I can't figure out at a way to do that and incorporate the other scrunching and plopping, etc. that I need without undoing it!
Originally Posted by auntnett
I saw that! It's what inspired me to try the pick, actually. I eagerly watched the video but ... the idea of using the root brush on my scalp is just asking for my hairs to frizz out and separate, no matter how wet it is. Just looking at the video makes my hair cringe

But I thought "I could try something similar, with something with larger tines ... " and that's what led me to try a pick. We'll see if/how it helps, though.
"when I sleep, my curls crush flat, like a slinky that's slopped sideways"
Gone 'girly. Last 'poo 10/18/08
Current experiment is Co-Wash and Condition: V05 kiwi lime clarifying conditioner
Then KBB super silky, KCCC, then L'Oreal Melting Gel with a bit of GF Super Stiff mixed in.
Pre-toweling, post-toweling, pre-plop and post-plop. The jury is not out on the plopping thing. I think my hair is too fine.
fine / non-porous / thin aka 3"abba" / oh so Fine / just barely ii
I have cowlicks at my temples. The only way around them was to let my bangs grow out = problem solved. The back of my head is another issue. My hair isn't thin, so I don't have that worry ... but because I have so much hair, I can end up looking like I'm wearing a beanie on my crown.

I pinch up my hair and clip before I start diffusing. I use the mirror to make sure that I don't have any funny things happening before I start to diffuse. After I diffuse for a few minutes, I take most of the clips (if not all) out. If I leave the clips in too long, I end up with lumps. Beanie or lumps ... not the look I'm looking for!

The clipping helps put the hair where I want it. Once it is set, I remove the clips and continue to diffuse. With the clips gone, I diffuse the back so that it is as curly as the rest of my hair. If I don't remove the clips and diffuse, I end up with wavy, wonky lumps.
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Looks about like mine only mine's more on the back of my head - like a jagged continuation of my left sided natural part.

ETA: Have you watched the root brush video in the Curly Hair Solutions ad? What he says about brushing in the opposite direction of hair growth makes sense, but I can't figure out at a way to do that and incorporate the other scrunching and plopping, etc. that I need without undoing it!
Originally Posted by auntnett
That is why I started using either a pick or my denman on the areas that are weird. I can also get my hair off my scalp by using them. I do it before I diffuse but after I scrunch. But I only do little areas-just to get the hair up and off my scalp if that makes any sense whatsoever.
Central Massachusetts

One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~

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