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but i want to know how to weigh down my hair. i have just too much volume, and on top of that my hair is thick. and that in turn makes my hair this weird .. shape, so i hardly wear it out. so all that combined means its really hard to manage and style. i need some help, pleaseee ):
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but i want to know how to weigh down my hair. i have just too much volume, and on top of that my hair is thick. and that in turn makes my hair this weird .. shape, so i hardly wear it out. so all that combined means its really hard to manage and style. i need some help, pleaseee ):
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What sorts of products and techniques are you using now?
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but i want to know how to weigh down my hair. i have just too much volume, and on top of that my hair is thick. and that in turn makes my hair this weird .. shape, so i hardly wear it out. so all that combined means its really hard to manage and style. i need some help, pleaseee ):
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I have the exact same problem. My hair is 3B but it ends up looking like 3C/4A if I keep it down. I'm growing it out to weigh it down and I am going to try to loosen the curl tomorrow with duck bill clips, but I'll tell you if I find anything that works!
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Most people say that if you want less volume, pile on the products. The heavier, the better.
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I am always trying to weigh down my hair ...it's way too thick and gets dry if I'm not careful. styling products aren't usually an option for me because of sensitive skin so I have to get creative.

Are you currently using shampoo? Cutting that out and washing with conditioner instead might help a lot. that took care of 75% of the problem for me.

to take care of the rest of it, after washing I use a 2nd rinse-out conditioner that's REALLY heavy with a lot of emollients (aubrey organics white camellia conditioner). this stuff will only halfway rinse out because it has so much oil and not much emulsifier. so I use a very small quarter-sized blob of it to avoid looking oily. it takes away a lot of volume. I love it.
Then when my hair is 80-90% dry I put a few drops apricot kernel oil in it. that also helps to devolumize but doesn't make it look oily. I tried a lot of different oils and that's the only one I've tried that removes volume without making my hair look oily. I've heard that camellia oil does the same thing but it's a little too expensive for me (although it is the main ingredient in my conditioner and I like the conditioner a lot)

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Thanks! I have heard a lot of good things about Aubrey's Organics and I've been wanting to try it for a while... where can you find them?
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but i want to know how to weigh down my hair. i have just too much volume, and on top of that my hair is thick. and that in turn makes my hair this weird .. shape, so i hardly wear it out. so all that combined means its really hard to manage and style. i need some help, pleaseee ):
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What sorts of products and techniques are you using now?
well, not counting the past two days .. i would condition my hair and thats it. then i would sleep in it and only do this once a week for two weeks. thats about the only 'method' i had for the past few weeks ..

i honestly dont have a set method, so that might be part of the problem. if you go to my post in the 2c forum, theres a picture of me and my hair.
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I am always trying to weigh down my hair ...it's way too thick and gets dry if I'm not careful. styling products aren't usually an option for me because of sensitive skin so I have to get creative.

Are you currently using shampoo? Cutting that out and washing with conditioner instead might help a lot. that took care of 75% of the problem for me.

to take care of the rest of it, after washing I use a 2nd rinse-out conditioner that's REALLY heavy with a lot of emollients (aubrey organics white camellia conditioner). this stuff will only halfway rinse out because it has so much oil and not much emulsifier. so I use a very small quarter-sized blob of it to avoid looking oily. it takes away a lot of volume. I love it.
Then when my hair is 80-90% dry I put a few drops apricot kernel oil in it. that also helps to devolumize but doesn't make it look oily. I tried a lot of different oils and that's the only one I've tried that removes volume without making my hair look oily. I've heard that camellia oil does the same thing but it's a little too expensive for me (although it is the main ingredient in my conditioner and I like the conditioner a lot)
hmm .. well for the past two days ive been using a shampoo and my hair just poofed, lol. but 2 weeks before that i was only using conditioner and it seemed to work okay .. but not completely eliminating the volume, like you. ive never really thought of using a conditioner with alot of emollients. where did you get the conditioner you were talking about ? and the apricot kernel oil? also .. how much are these products? thanks
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Most people say that if you want less volume, pile on the products. The heavier, the better.
i just may try that. i was seriously just thinking of doing that tomorrow. so i will, thanks we'll see how that goes
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but i want to know how to weigh down my hair. i have just too much volume, and on top of that my hair is thick. and that in turn makes my hair this weird .. shape, so i hardly wear it out. so all that combined means its really hard to manage and style. i need some help, pleaseee ):
thank you !
I have the exact same problem. My hair is 3B but it ends up looking like 3C/4A if I keep it down. I'm growing it out to weigh it down and I am going to try to loosen the curl tomorrow with duck bill clips, but I'll tell you if I find anything that works!
well ive been told my hair is 2c/3a ? idk, lol. my hair is already pretty long. but it still has a weird shape. but yes, let me know how that goes
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Most people say that if you want less volume, pile on the products. The heavier, the better.
That doesnt work for me. Particularly in humid climates, it just makes it worse.

Firstly CG made the most diff for me. In specific: Product into soaking wet hair, Curl Ease Towel. Diffusing til fully dry (air drying gives me too much volume). And, of course, the right products for your hair (for me thats CO wash or DW, Tigi MM and HESMU for winter hair).

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I tried john frieda volume reducing serum...my hair was a little smaller but it made it all crispy and dry.
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Most people say that if you want less volume, pile on the products. The heavier, the better.
That doesnt work for me. Particularly in humid climates, it just makes it worse.

Firstly CG made the most diff for me. In specific: Product into soaking wet hair, Curl Ease Towel. Diffusing til fully dry (air drying gives me too much volume). And, of course, the right products for your hair (for me thats CO wash or DW, Tigi MM and HESMU for winter hair).

Good luck, it can be done!
well, right now im trying the pile on products thing. ill see how that turns out tomorrow ..

but, im really hesitant at trying CG .. i just feel like it'll be so much work. and yes, im a lazy person :P but, ive seen the before and after pics of some and it makes me really want to try it.. so maybe i will. not sure yet. its just the whole which products work for me and dont,trial and error type thing.
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I tried john frieda volume reducing serum...my hair was a little smaller but it made it all crispy and dry.
aww, lol. john frieda serums are poop.
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I am always trying to weigh down my hair ...it's way too thick and gets dry if I'm not careful. styling products aren't usually an option for me because of sensitive skin so I have to get creative.

Are you currently using shampoo? Cutting that out and washing with conditioner instead might help a lot. that took care of 75% of the problem for me.

to take care of the rest of it, after washing I use a 2nd rinse-out conditioner that's REALLY heavy with a lot of emollients (aubrey organics white camellia conditioner). this stuff will only halfway rinse out because it has so much oil and not much emulsifier. so I use a very small quarter-sized blob of it to avoid looking oily. it takes away a lot of volume. I love it.
Then when my hair is 80-90% dry I put a few drops apricot kernel oil in it. that also helps to devolumize but doesn't make it look oily. I tried a lot of different oils and that's the only one I've tried that removes volume without making my hair look oily. I've heard that camellia oil does the same thing but it's a little too expensive for me (although it is the main ingredient in my conditioner and I like the conditioner a lot)
hmm .. well for the past two days ive been using a shampoo and my hair just poofed, lol. but 2 weeks before that i was only using conditioner and it seemed to work okay .. but not completely eliminating the volume, like you. ive never really thought of using a conditioner with alot of emollients. where did you get the conditioner you were talking about ? and the apricot kernel oil? also .. how much are these products? thanks
If you have a health food store you might check there first. I get them at Whole Foods but you could also also order them online.

AOWC is about $10 for 11 ounces but you will probably only use a nickel-width or quarter-width blob at a time, so the bottle lasts quite a while. I use a quarter-sized blob on my shoulder-length hair and I comb it through in the shower to get better distribution since it's such a small amount.

Apricot kernel oil is about $7 for 4 ounces and it also lasts a long while ... I use about a dime-sized amount.

http://www.auracacia.com/dspCmnPrd.p...ricot%20Kernel

http://www.aubrey-organics.com/Produ...?productid=109
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but i want to know how to weigh down my hair. i have just too much volume, and on top of that my hair is thick. and that in turn makes my hair this weird .. shape, so i hardly wear it out. so all that combined means its really hard to manage and style. i need some help, pleaseee ):
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You're not alone! My hair is huge huge huge. What has helped a TON was going CG. Use lots and lots of products and conditioner. (KCCC weighs mine down in a good way!) Do NOT diffuse. Try sleeping in a satin bonnet! It might even make your hair too small. DT weekly. Also, FOTE is great.

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I am always trying to weigh down my hair ...it's way too thick and gets dry if I'm not careful. styling products aren't usually an option for me because of sensitive skin so I have to get creative.

Are you currently using shampoo? Cutting that out and washing with conditioner instead might help a lot. that took care of 75% of the problem for me.

to take care of the rest of it, after washing I use a 2nd rinse-out conditioner that's REALLY heavy with a lot of emollients (aubrey organics white camellia conditioner). this stuff will only halfway rinse out because it has so much oil and not much emulsifier. so I use a very small quarter-sized blob of it to avoid looking oily. it takes away a lot of volume. I love it.
Then when my hair is 80-90% dry I put a few drops apricot kernel oil in it. that also helps to devolumize but doesn't make it look oily. I tried a lot of different oils and that's the only one I've tried that removes volume without making my hair look oily. I've heard that camellia oil does the same thing but it's a little too expensive for me (although it is the main ingredient in my conditioner and I like the conditioner a lot)
hmm .. well for the past two days ive been using a shampoo and my hair just poofed, lol. but 2 weeks before that i was only using conditioner and it seemed to work okay .. but not completely eliminating the volume, like you. ive never really thought of using a conditioner with alot of emollients. where did you get the conditioner you were talking about ? and the apricot kernel oil? also .. how much are these products? thanks
If you have a health food store you might check there first. I get them at Whole Foods but you could also also order them online.

AOWC is about $10 for 11 ounces but you will probably only use a nickel-width or quarter-width blob at a time, so the bottle lasts quite a while. I use a quarter-sized blob on my shoulder-length hair and I comb it through in the shower to get better distribution since it's such a small amount.

Apricot kernel oil is about $7 for 4 ounces and it also lasts a long while ... I use about a dime-sized amount.

http://www.auracacia.com/dspCmnPrd.p...ricot%20Kernel

http://www.aubrey-organics.com/Produ...?productid=109
thanks so much!
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but i want to know how to weigh down my hair. i have just too much volume, and on top of that my hair is thick. and that in turn makes my hair this weird .. shape, so i hardly wear it out. so all that combined means its really hard to manage and style. i need some help, pleaseee ):
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You're not alone! My hair is huge huge huge. What has helped a TON was going CG. Use lots and lots of products and conditioner. (KCCC weighs mine down in a good way!) Do NOT diffuse. Try sleeping in a satin bonnet! It might even make your hair too small. DT weekly. Also, FOTE is great.

HTH
yes, but ive been pretty skeptical when it comes to CG. i have a feeling itll be too much work. and yes, im lazy person :P lol. but idk .. ive seen the before and after pictures of people who've done it and it makes me really want to.

tonight, i washed my hair and put in tons of product. and im sleeping with my hair plopped, so ill see how that turns out. thanks for the reccomendations
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Most people say that if you want less volume, pile on the products. The heavier, the better.
That doesnt work for me. Particularly in humid climates, it just makes it worse.

Firstly CG made the most diff for me. In specific: Product into soaking wet hair, Curl Ease Towel. Diffusing til fully dry (air drying gives me too much volume). And, of course, the right products for your hair (for me thats CO wash or DW, Tigi MM and HESMU for winter hair).

Good luck, it can be done!
well, right now im trying the pile on products thing. ill see how that turns out tomorrow ..

but, im really hesitant at trying CG .. i just feel like it'll be so much work. and yes, im a lazy person :P but, ive seen the before and after pics of some and it makes me really want to try it.. so maybe i will. not sure yet. its just the whole which products work for me and dont,trial and error type thing.
fyi, in MY case, its been so much LESS work then all those years of attempting to: control my bulk/volume, control my hair reactions to humidity and get a nice curl.

Way less work. Way cheaper. Way better hair.
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That doesnt work for me. Particularly in humid climates, it just makes it worse.

Firstly CG made the most diff for me. In specific: Product into soaking wet hair, Curl Ease Towel. Diffusing til fully dry (air drying gives me too much volume). And, of course, the right products for your hair (for me thats CO wash or DW, Tigi MM and HESMU for winter hair).

Good luck, it can be done!
well, right now im trying the pile on products thing. ill see how that turns out tomorrow ..

but, im really hesitant at trying CG .. i just feel like it'll be so much work. and yes, im a lazy person :P but, ive seen the before and after pics of some and it makes me really want to try it.. so maybe i will. not sure yet. its just the whole which products work for me and dont,trial and error type thing.
fyi, in MY case, its been so much LESS work then all those years of attempting to: control my bulk/volume, control my hair reactions to humidity and get a nice curl.

Way less work. Way cheaper. Way better hair.
I agree...so much less work! seems like most of my hair issues came from having hair that was too dry ... remove the cause of the dryness and then there are fewer issues to fix.
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