Calling Conditioner Experts!

Does anyone know of a daily conditioner with ingredients similar to Jessicurl's Weekly Deep Conditioning Treatment? I've been using the WDT as a rinse-out and my hair really loves it (due to the low amount of oil, I'm sure), but I'm not sure I'll be able to continue to do this for very long without becoming overconditioned. The WDT might continue to work fine as long as I don't leave it on very long, but I'm thinking if I could find a daily conditioner that has more butter than oil similar to the WDT, that might be a better choice for regular use. Any suggestions?

WDT Ingredients:
Water infused with Lemongrass, Nettle, Burdock, Kelp, Marshmallow Root, Horsetail, Basil, Bay Leaf, Oregano, Rosemary, Peppermint, Sage and Thyme, Behentrimonium Methosulfate and Cetearyl Alcohol, Shea Butter, Avocado Oil, Cocoa Butter, Lecithin, Aloe Vera Powder, Diazolidinyl Urea (and) Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Fragrance.
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rudeechick started a thread about this ingredient that is great for detangling and SBB also looks for this ingredient as it's very good for our hair! All of the EO,CJ and, JC conditioners have it. I ordered the Chamomile and Honey one it doesn't have Butters but it has coconut which is one of my new loves, and of course Honey far down on the list so it shouldn't be an issue right now

I haven't tried it yet it should be here today! We have a lot of good reviews about the other EO condish. Jilipoo is one that loves it, don't remember which one. It might be the Rose Geranium. I know you can get it at Retail locations but don't remember where, sorry. Hopefully someone will else will chime in but it has been discussed in the Product Reviews.



EO Wild Lime & Ginger Hair Repair: This is a Hair Repair but it doesn't have Avocado Oil like the WDT and 1 butter not 2 so it may be a little lighter.

EO Organic Herbal Blend (Purified Water, Organic Chamomile* (Matricaria Recutita), Organic Aloe Vera* (Aloe Barbadensis), Organic Calendula* (Calendula Officinalis), Organic White Tea* (Camellia Sinensis), Organic Licorice (Glycyrrhiza Glabra) Root*, Organic Comfrey* (Symphytum Officinale), Organic marshmallow (Althaea Officinalis), and Organic Dandelion (Taraxacum Officinale)], Behentrimonium Methosulfate (and) Cetearyl Alcohol, Glycerin, EO Essential Oil Blend, Tocopheryl Acetate (Vitamin E), Retinyl Palmitate (Vitamin A), Mango (Magnifera Indica) Seed Butter, Safflower (Carthamus Tinctorius) Oil, Amino Acids, Behenalkonium Chloride (and) Cetyl Alcohol, Guar Hydroproxypyltrimonium chloride, Disodium EDTA, Phenoxyethanol, Benzyl Alcohol, Potassium Sorbate.
*Certified Organic
No synthetic fragrances, only pure essential oils.

Chamomile & Honey
EO Organic Herbal Blend [purified water, organic chamomile* (matricaria recutita), organic aloe vera* (aloe barbadensis), organic calendula* (calendula officinalis), organic white tea* (camellia sinensis), organic licorice (glycyrrhiza glabra) root*, organic comfrey* (symphytum officinale), organic marshmallow* (althaea officinalis) and organic dandelion* (taraxacum officinale)], behentrimonium methosulfate (and) cetearyl alcohol, EO Essential Oil Blend, honey, coconut (coccus nucifera) oil, amino acids, cetearyl alcohol (and) polysorbate 60, behenalkonium chloride, cetyl alcohol, guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, disodium EDTA, phenoxyethanol, benzyl alcohol, potassium sorbate.
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CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
Thanks, Del! Yep, I always look for Behentrimonium Methosulfate, too. I'll go check out the EO site -- I'm curious about what's in the EO Oil Blend - I'm trying to avoid jojoba oil. My hair seems to do ok with avocado and coconut. I know Jillipoo loves this stuff so it's gotta be good!
http://public.fotki.com/msgiblet/ - pw: gibber -- Pics Added 7/10/11
Fine, Thick, Normal Porosity, Normal Elasticity

Countess Balashi of Divi Beach in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

If I'm Going To Have A Bad Hair Day, It Might As Well Be In Aruba!

Thanks, Del! Yep, I always look for Behentrimonium Methosulfate, too. I'll go check out the EO site -- I'm curious about what's in the EO Oil Blend - I'm trying to avoid jojoba oil. My hair seems to do ok with avocado and coconut. I know Jillipoo loves this stuff so it's gotta be good!
Originally Posted by msgiblet
I'm avoiding too many oils myself as you well know it was my understanding that the oil blend is the Essential Oils, otherwise they list the actual oils like Sunflower or Coconut. Jojoba isn't in the category of EO's right? EO's are primarily fragrance,no? BTW I'm no expert but that ingredient was new to me so wanted to make sure you knew too!
Discovered CG 2007

2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive

Link-Spritz & Condish Washing

I'm aCurlJunkieJunky

My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars


CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.

Last edited by DEL2C; 02-16-2009 at 09:53 AM.
Thanks, Del! Yep, I always look for Behentrimonium Methosulfate, too. I'll go check out the EO site -- I'm curious about what's in the EO Oil Blend - I'm trying to avoid jojoba oil. My hair seems to do ok with avocado and coconut. I know Jillipoo loves this stuff so it's gotta be good!
Originally Posted by msgiblet
I'm avoiding too many oils myself as you well know it was my understanding that the oil blend is the Essential Oils, otherwise they list the actual oils like Sunflower or Coconut. Jojoba isn't in the category of EO's right? EO's are primarily fragrance,no? BTW I'm no expert but that ingredient was new to me so wanted to make sure you knew too!
Originally Posted by DEL2C
Good to know -- obviously, I'm oil ignorant. I just know my hair is picky about them.

ETA: I just noticed that the Komaza Coconut Pudding -- which I really like -- has shea butter and cocoa butter like the WDT. That's telling me I should be looking for these 2 ingredients. Hmmmmmmmm.........
http://public.fotki.com/msgiblet/ - pw: gibber -- Pics Added 7/10/11
Fine, Thick, Normal Porosity, Normal Elasticity

Countess Balashi of Divi Beach in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

If I'm Going To Have A Bad Hair Day, It Might As Well Be In Aruba!


Last edited by msgiblet; 02-16-2009 at 10:09 AM.
from the EO website it lists all of their ingredients and what they're for. Pretty neat!

http://www.eoproducts.com/glossary/o...edients.aspx#G

Essential Oils
Plant derived

Oily liquids obtained from plants. Complex mixtures of alcohols, ketones, phenols, acids, ethers, aldehydes, esters, oxides, and sulfur compounds (among others). They're also called volatile oils, ethereal oils, essences, or absolutes. The oily liquid obtained from plants through a variety of processes. It usually has the taste and smell of the original plant. Called essential oils, because down through history, the theory is they were essential to life and they were the “essence” of the plant. The use of essential oils as preservatives is ancient.
Discovered CG 2007

2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive

Link-Spritz & Condish Washing

I'm aCurlJunkieJunky

My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars


CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
from the EO website it lists all of their ingredients and what they're for. Pretty neat!

http://www.eoproducts.com/glossary/o...edients.aspx#G

Essential Oils
Plant derived

Oily liquids obtained from plants. Complex mixtures of alcohols, ketones, phenols, acids, ethers, aldehydes, esters, oxides, and sulfur compounds (among others). They're also called volatile oils, ethereal oils, essences, or absolutes. The oily liquid obtained from plants through a variety of processes. It usually has the taste and smell of the original plant. Called essential oils, because down through history, the theory is they were essential to life and they were the “essence” of the plant. The use of essential oils as preservatives is ancient.
Originally Posted by DEL2C
Cool! Thanks for posting this!
http://public.fotki.com/msgiblet/ - pw: gibber -- Pics Added 7/10/11
Fine, Thick, Normal Porosity, Normal Elasticity

Countess Balashi of Divi Beach in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

If I'm Going To Have A Bad Hair Day, It Might As Well Be In Aruba!

MSG I just wanted to let you know that I used my EO Chamomile Honey condish and I REALLY loved it. I started clumping in the shower which is very rare for me. It smells so light and wonderful! I don't know if it's the combination of ingredients but it has to have something to do with Coconut and Honey for me anyway.....
Discovered CG 2007

2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive

Link-Spritz & Condish Washing

I'm aCurlJunkieJunky

My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars


CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
I really liked the Chamomile & Honey conditioner but couldn't get past the smell. I found it sharp & earthy. It stayed with me all day too. If it was a warmer scent I could use it.
4a/b Texlaxed hair w/ highlights. Medium texture & high porosity.

HG's: CJ Daily Fix, Bobeam Cheris Hibiscus shampoo bar, KC Spiral Spritz, Knot Today, CJ Rehab, KBB LL Hair Mask, Cassia, KCCC, oil blend of Avocado, Camellia, Jojoba, & Meadowfoam oils

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Disclaimer: I am not a conditioner expert.

But.... I do love the EO Rose and Chamomile Conditioner (which, by the way, the company recently told me is their heaviest conditioner -- who knew? It doesn't feel heavy at all to me!). Like all conditioners that I am fond of, Behentrimonium Methosulfate is indeed in it.

As I read that Jessicurl WDT ingredient list, though, I also thought it looked similar to DevaCurl OneCondition. OneC, though, has some glycerin (which is why I don't love it) and does not contain any Behentrimonium Methosulfate. And so I have just proven that I am not a conditioner expert.

Curious to see what other suggestions you get, though!
3a and strictly CG since August 2007. Porous and on the fine side. No to magnesium sulfate and glycerin. Yes to protein! Favorites:
CO-WASHES: Suave Coconut
CONDITIONERS and LEAVE-INS: Mop Top Daily Conditioner, KBB Nectar, Aubrey GPB or Island Naturals, Robert Craig, Any Jessicurl
CURL ENHANCERS/CREMES/MOUSSES: KCCC, JoiWhip
GELS: Fuzzy Duck, B5 Design, MGA Scultping, BRHG


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Have you used Oyin Honey Hemp condish? I think I may pick up another bottle of that. I loved it when I used it before I just prefer not to have to order something but I think I will bite the bullet.
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Yes, I've used Oyin Honey Hemp -- and it made me frizzy. But I am more the exception than the rule, I think. Honey and all things humectanty do that to me.
3a and strictly CG since August 2007. Porous and on the fine side. No to magnesium sulfate and glycerin. Yes to protein! Favorites:
CO-WASHES: Suave Coconut
CONDITIONERS and LEAVE-INS: Mop Top Daily Conditioner, KBB Nectar, Aubrey GPB or Island Naturals, Robert Craig, Any Jessicurl
CURL ENHANCERS/CREMES/MOUSSES: KCCC, JoiWhip
GELS: Fuzzy Duck, B5 Design, MGA Scultping, BRHG


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Twitter: nopoojillipoo
Yes, I've used Oyin Honey Hemp -- and it made me frizzy. But I am more the exception than the rule, I think. Honey and all things humectanty do that to me.
Originally Posted by jillipoo
Sorry jillipoo - I was not clear - I was giving MsG a suggestion. I think you and I both tried the Oyin around the same time last year.
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One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
You know, I do have the Oyin Honey Hemp. I think I got it right before winter hit and I haven't used it since because of the honey and everything; figured it would be too humectanty (is that a word? probably not) for this very dry, cold winter. Thanks for reminding me -- do you have luck with it in the winter?

I did pull out my Innersense Color Radiance conditioner and while it does have some oil in it, it doesn't have jojoba oil and it has shea butter. That worked pretty well.

I think I must need conditioners that have shea butter and/or cocoa butter (at least in the winter), as well as Behentrimonium Methosulfate. Keep those suggestions coming!
http://public.fotki.com/msgiblet/ - pw: gibber -- Pics Added 7/10/11
Fine, Thick, Normal Porosity, Normal Elasticity

Countess Balashi of Divi Beach in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

If I'm Going To Have A Bad Hair Day, It Might As Well Be In Aruba!

You know, I do have the Oyin Honey Hemp. I think I got it right before winter hit and I haven't used it since because of the honey and everything; figured it would be too humectanty (is that a word? probably not) for this very dry, cold winter. Thanks for reminding me -- do you have luck with it in the winter?
Oyin Hemp has Honey higher on the list than the EO does. I can't use Honey in my stylers right now it seems, but in the EO condish not a problem at all. I've never tried this one though, this could be an experiment for a day that doesn't matter so you can try it out.

Oyin Honey Hemp
Ingredients: water, organic aloe vera gel, behentremonium methosulfate (emulsifier derived from colza oil) honey, coconut oil, hemp oil, vegetable glycerine, hydrolyzed silk, citrus essences, fragrance, preservative, and love!

Anyone try the Curls one? I saw it on the swap board.

CURLS Curl Ecstasy Hair Tea Conditioner
Ingredients: Purified Water, Cetyl Alcohol, Octyl Palmitrate, Behentrimonum Methosulfate, Certified Organic Aloe Leaf Juice, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Propylene Glycol, Cetearyl Alcohol, Cetearth-20, Certified Organic Ho Shu Wu Extract, Certified Organic Green Tea Extract, Certified Organic Chamomile Extract, Certified Organic Calendula Extract, Mango Butter, Shea Butter, Panthenol, Soy Protein, Citric Acid, Quaternium-15.
Discovered CG 2007

2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive

Link-Spritz & Condish Washing

I'm aCurlJunkieJunky

My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars


CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
You know, I do have the Oyin Honey Hemp. I think I got it right before winter hit and I haven't used it since because of the honey and everything; figured it would be too humectanty (is that a word? probably not) for this very dry, cold winter. Thanks for reminding me -- do you have luck with it in the winter?
Oyin Hemp has Honey higher on the list than the EO does. I can't use Honey in my stylers right now it seems, but in the EO condish not a problem at all. I've never tried this one though, this could be an experiment for a day that doesn't matter so you can try it out.

Oyin Honey Hemp
Ingredients: water, organic aloe vera gel, behentremonium methosulfate (emulsifier derived from colza oil) honey, coconut oil, hemp oil, vegetable glycerine, hydrolyzed silk, citrus essences, fragrance, preservative, and love!

Anyone try the Curls one? I saw it on the swap board.

CURLS Curl Ecstasy Hair Tea Conditioner
Ingredients: Purified Water, Cetyl Alcohol, Octyl Palmitrate, Behentrimonum Methosulfate, Certified Organic Aloe Leaf Juice, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Propylene Glycol, Cetearyl Alcohol, Cetearth-20, Certified Organic Ho Shu Wu Extract, Certified Organic Green Tea Extract, Certified Organic Chamomile Extract, Certified Organic Calendula Extract, Mango Butter, Shea Butter, Panthenol, Soy Protein, Citric Acid, Quaternium-15.
Originally Posted by DEL2C
I ordered the CURLS Curl Ecstasy Hair Tea Conditioner yesterday after searching ingredients so we'll see how it does.
http://public.fotki.com/msgiblet/ - pw: gibber -- Pics Added 7/10/11
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Countess Balashi of Divi Beach in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

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Anyone try the Curls one? I saw it on the swap board.

CURLS Curl Ecstasy Hair Tea Conditioner
Ingredients: Purified Water, Cetyl Alcohol, Octyl Palmitrate, Behentrimonum Methosulfate, Certified Organic Aloe Leaf Juice, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Propylene Glycol, Cetearyl Alcohol, Cetearth-20, Certified Organic Ho Shu Wu Extract, Certified Organic Green Tea Extract, Certified Organic Chamomile Extract, Certified Organic Calendula Extract, Mango Butter, Shea Butter, Panthenol, Soy Protein, Citric Acid, Quaternium-15.
Originally Posted by DEL2C
I've tried the Curl Ecstasy and would recommend the Coconut Sublime more. The curl ecstasy just didn't feel as moisturizing.
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MsG - I just posted my favs for you on a thread in the Reader's Product Review area...so here they are again just in case.

Avalon Organics Olive and Grapeseed, I'm loving this.
EO Rose and Chamomile, Nourishing Conditioner, thank you Jillipoo!
Tigi Moisture Maniac, had to get it after all the "talk" on the boards, I like it.
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MsG - I just posted my favs for you on a thread in the Reader's Product Review area...so here they are again just in case.

Avalon Organics Olive and Grapeseed, I'm loving this.
EO Rose and Chamomile, Nourishing Conditioner, thank you Jillipoo!
Tigi Moisture Maniac, had to get it after all the "talk" on the boards, I like it.
Originally Posted by CurlyinColorado
Thanks CIC! I haven't tried the Avalon or EO conditioners yet. I do have the Tigi MM and every time I used it, I got terrible spider web frizz so I put it away.
http://public.fotki.com/msgiblet/ - pw: gibber -- Pics Added 7/10/11
Fine, Thick, Normal Porosity, Normal Elasticity

Countess Balashi of Divi Beach in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

If I'm Going To Have A Bad Hair Day, It Might As Well Be In Aruba!

MsG - I just posted my favs for you on a thread in the Reader's Product Review area...so here they are again just in case.

Avalon Organics Olive and Grapeseed, I'm loving this.
EO Rose and Chamomile, Nourishing Conditioner, thank you Jillipoo!
Tigi Moisture Maniac, had to get it after all the "talk" on the boards, I like it.
Originally Posted by CurlyinColorado
Yay! I'm so glad you like the EO! My next purchase is going to be the Avalon Olive and Grapeseed.
3a and strictly CG since August 2007. Porous and on the fine side. No to magnesium sulfate and glycerin. Yes to protein! Favorites:
CO-WASHES: Suave Coconut
CONDITIONERS and LEAVE-INS: Mop Top Daily Conditioner, KBB Nectar, Aubrey GPB or Island Naturals, Robert Craig, Any Jessicurl
CURL ENHANCERS/CREMES/MOUSSES: KCCC, JoiWhip
GELS: Fuzzy Duck, B5 Design, MGA Scultping, BRHG


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