Oh the clumps! The Icequeen Method

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There was a thread started 3 days ago about getting clumps with Deva. As a lot of you don't use Deva you probably skipped that thread so I thought I'd share what technique Icequeen shared about how to use your conditioner.
I rake a large amt. of OneC through my hair in the shower, then flip over and scrunch it through until it feels like seaweed and squishes which gets the clumps going. It sits on my hair through the shower routine. I then rinse upside down in cool water and firmly scrunch in a small amt. of OneC
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I really think this is making such a difference in my clumps forming. I usually don't get big or even medium clumps. I get small ones. I would look at the pics of the wavies on here and long for the clumps they were getting. After a while I just figured it wasn't what my hair was going to do so I let it go. Then I saw the thread and after Icequeen posted I figured I'd pull my Deva out of the cabinet and give it a go. My hair looked GREAT and I had CLUMPS. So the next day I figured I'd try it with my other condish and products to see if it was just the Deva. Again my hair did the same thing...great clumps. And yesterday I did it again with some samples I got from KathyMack (I actually had 2nd day hair for once but couldn't wait to try new stuff) and again I had good results. I really think this is making a huge difference and I wanted to make sure that all you who don't use Deva at least had a chance to try it. BTW if I'm not mistaken, this is how Lorraine Massey herself conditioned Icequeen's hair at a curly event a few years ago.
http://public.fotki.com/JessCurls/going-cg/1000867.html Day 1 All Deva
http://public.fotki.com/JessCurls/going-cg/1000877.html Day 2 GVP condish balm, homemade FSG, BRHG
http://public.fotki.com/JessCurls/going-cg/1000890.html Day 3 KBB milk and Curl Junkie CCCC, I didn't use a gel, hence the frizz

There are more in my Fotki if you want to check them out. And TRY THIS! Thanks again Icequeen!
High Priestess JessMess, follower of the Goddess of the Coiling Way and Confiscator of Concoctions in the Order of the Curly Crusaders


Last edited by Jess the Mess; 06-24-2009 at 10:02 PM.
Another experiment to try!! At least I don't have to buy anything Your hair looks beautiful Jess in all 3 pics!!!! I'm enjoying my no fuss 2nd day but tomorrow will be the test for me
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2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive

Link-Spritz & Condish Washing

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CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
Jess, I just gotta say your hair looks so healthy, shiny and look at those clumps!
3a (protein sensitive)
Fine, normal porosity, normal elasticity



Cleansers: Mop-C Hydrating Shampoo, JCGLS
Conditioners: CJCR, CK Renew
Leave-in: CJCR, CK Satin Roots
Stylers: HEBE, UFDCM
Deep Conditioner: CJCR
Standby items:GVP K-Pak
Your hair looks beautiful. I'm so glad it worked for you!!
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Cond: CJ Strengthing, Marie Dean, CJ Curl Rehab
Leave -In: Marie Dean Red Clover, Coconut Lime Detangler and just about the entire line, CJ Rehab
Gelly: UFDCM, Paul Brown Geletine Goo
Towel - HG - Curls Like Us

Always use the "Icequeen" method for products
Sounds very interesting. So in the day 2 pics, did you rake in the FSG and BRHG or how did you apply these? When I first started CG (mod) I had good clumping, but now I'm getting little clumps. This is not so bad, but I would like to get bigger clumps too. TIA.
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Oh my goodness, this technique totally works!!! I was so skeptical (as always), but I tried it today, and I have the most awesome clumpy hair. I have curls EXACTLY like this today, only shorter hair:

http://www.scienceandsupermodels.com...%20helsing.jpg

Wow.
Medium texture, normal-high porosity, wavy-curly 2c to 3a-ish hair that is MOISTURE HUNGRY!!!
Currently recovering from a protein hair crisis. My hair hates protein, apparently.

Sounds very interesting. So in the day 2 pics, did you rake in the FSG and BRHG or how did you apply these? When I first started CG (mod) I had good clumping, but now I'm getting little clumps. This is not so bad, but I would like to get bigger clumps too. TIA.
Originally Posted by curlykey
I smoothed in the FSG then scrunched so the clumps came back then just scrunched the BRHG. If I rake anything I have tiny little clumps. I did have to SOTC with a tiny bit of coconut oil when fully dry but it was beautiful and frizz free all day.

Finch I'm so glad it worked. Yay!
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High Priestess JessMess, follower of the Goddess of the Coiling Way and Confiscator of Concoctions in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

tried this out today and it works!! i hardly ever get good clumps and today my clumps are awesome yay!!
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Wow! My hair is only about 65% dry, but talk about the curls I'm getting!

I hope this lasts - normally, my problem seems to be that with every new method or product I try, it works for a few days, and then I go back to the same old problems of drooping. So, fingers crossed, if this works for good, I'll be happy as all get-out!
CG since 1/09. Protein and Mag Sulfate sensitive.
Hair Type - 3A.
Co-wash - Jane Carter Solution Nutrient Replenishing Conditioner.
Low-poo as needed - Beautiful Curls Curl Enhancing Shampoo.
Cond./Leave-In - Beautiful Curls Curl Enhancing Shea Butter Leave-In Conditioner.
Stylers - Jane Carter Solution Condition and Sculpt; Beautiful Curls Curl Defining Gel.
Well with the disturbing news about KCCC today I really needed a good hair day. LUCKILY, I tried this today not with DEVA but with LVPNG. I used Mop-C mixed with Lustrasilk SHEA-Mango as a styler. NO GEL which is unheard of for my MOP. I spritzed with some Glisten to me and TADA! Great Day!!!!! I was worried about over-conditioning but nope, worked like a charm
Discovered CG 2007

2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive

Link-Spritz & Condish Washing

I'm aCurlJunkieJunky

My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars


CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
Could we sticky this thread? Please?

My hair is completely dry now, and it looks awesome! Thanks, IceQueen!
CG since 1/09. Protein and Mag Sulfate sensitive.
Hair Type - 3A.
Co-wash - Jane Carter Solution Nutrient Replenishing Conditioner.
Low-poo as needed - Beautiful Curls Curl Enhancing Shampoo.
Cond./Leave-In - Beautiful Curls Curl Enhancing Shea Butter Leave-In Conditioner.
Stylers - Jane Carter Solution Condition and Sculpt; Beautiful Curls Curl Defining Gel.

Last edited by LisaF1163; 02-22-2009 at 12:46 PM.
Pretty hair, Jess the Mess!

Months ago, I read on StruttsWife's site that she applies conditioner this way and so I've been doing it, too. It really does work -- and with pretty much any conditioner (but she uses OneC). The woman is a genius. And so is icequeen, apparently!
3a and strictly CG since August 2007. Porous and on the fine side. No to magnesium sulfate and glycerin. Yes to protein! Favorites:
CO-WASHES: Suave Coconut
CONDITIONERS and LEAVE-INS: Mop Top Daily Conditioner, KBB Nectar, Aubrey GPB or Island Naturals, Robert Craig, Any Jessicurl
CURL ENHANCERS/CREMES/MOUSSES: KCCC, JoiWhip
GELS: Fuzzy Duck, B5 Design, MGA Scultping, BRHG


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Pretty hair, Jess the Mess!
Originally Posted by jillipoo
Thank you. Yay! I'm so glad this is working for you guys too!!! I love having clumps. it has made all the difference in my love of winter hair. I can't wait until summer and air drying again...
High Priestess JessMess, follower of the Goddess of the Coiling Way and Confiscator of Concoctions in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

DEL-
what's the disturbing news about KCCC -or do we want to know?
Slight GUANO but don't know where else to put this. Strutts wife had said that using SIF while diffusing is a way to calm the frizzies that can POP up. I've tried this with SIF and also with my homemade Glisten to me and have had GREAT results with this method. I suppose a Spray Gel would do the trick as well but mine are so diluted that it doesn't seem to work and I don't have a good commercial spray gel right now.
Discovered CG 2007

2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive

Link-Spritz & Condish Washing

I'm aCurlJunkieJunky

My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars


CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
DEL-
what's the disturbing news about KCCC -or do we want to know?
Originally Posted by hmixon
This is the disturbing news................. Kinky Curly Going Out of Business
Discovered CG 2007

2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive

Link-Spritz & Condish Washing

I'm aCurlJunkieJunky

My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars


CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
Slight GUANO but don't know where else to put this. Strutts wife had said that using SIF while diffusing is a way to calm the frizzies that can POP up. I've tried this with SIF and also with my homemade Glisten to me and have had GREAT results with this method.
Originally Posted by DEL2C
what's that? I love making homemade stuff...as you probably know...
High Priestess JessMess, follower of the Goddess of the Coiling Way and Confiscator of Concoctions in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

It's Lorraines recipe from the Curly Girl Handbook. Her original recipe is 50/50 Lavender Spray & Veg Glycerin. I use the 4oz sprat bottles and put 1/4 Glycerin and fill the rest with water. It was too heavy for me 50/50. It works great though!!
Discovered CG 2007

2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive

Link-Spritz & Condish Washing

I'm aCurlJunkieJunky

My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars


CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
It's Lorraines recipe from the Curly Girl Handbook. Her original recipe is 50/50 Lavender Spray & Veg Glycerin. I use the 4oz sprat bottles and put 1/4 Glycerin and fill the rest with water. It was too heavy for me 50/50. It works great though!!
Originally Posted by DEL2C
I just lent my book to my cousin yesterday and I'm almost out of SIF Where do you get veg glycerin?
High Priestess JessMess, follower of the Goddess of the Coiling Way and Confiscator of Concoctions in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

Could we sticky this thread? Please?

My hair is completely dry now, and it looks awesome! Thanks, IceQueen!
Originally Posted by LisaF1163

I am sooo glad everyone is finding success with this method. I used it today with some Curl Junkie products I'm experimenting with and it worked like a charm, as always.
3a Colored, Layered
Currently loving:
Cond: CJ Strengthing, Marie Dean, CJ Curl Rehab
Leave -In: Marie Dean Red Clover, Coconut Lime Detangler and just about the entire line, CJ Rehab
Gelly: UFDCM, Paul Brown Geletine Goo
Towel - HG - Curls Like Us

Always use the "Icequeen" method for products

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