Who else loves the IceQueen Method?!!?

The front, top and part area of my hair loves this method. The back of my head not so much. I was doing this method for about a week and noticed that the back of my head looked like I was parting it. I realized that is where my shower water was hitting my head while rinsing upside down. Because I do not have a handheld shower thingy it's very difficult to change where I stand and get my hair rinsed properly. So, I think my thin hair was getting 'parted' by the water and I could not get my hair to go the right way after getting out of the shower so, unfortunately, I had to stop using this method.
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Okay...the first time I tried this, my hair was AMAZING. My curls and waves (2b/2c/3a) looked like flowing ribbons, people even stopped me on the street to ask where I had my hair done.

The next day I hennaed my roots as usual, then braided it because it didn't have time to dry nicely that night.

Now...I can't get a single clump without frizz...I don't know what's changed...please help me, I look like medusa with those frizzy stringlets :'(
After I rinse upside-down with cool water I rake my condish in for leave-in (or whatever leave-in is the flavor of the day in my bathroom) then comb from the roots to the ends then scrunch, scrunch, scrunch
Originally Posted by Jess the Mess

are you combing upside down at this point?
Originally Posted by littlestarlet
Yep. It's doing wonders for my roots and my frizz.

Okay...the first time I tried this, my hair was AMAZING. My curls and waves (2b/2c/3a) looked like flowing ribbons, people even stopped me on the street to ask where I had my hair done.

The next day I hennaed my roots as usual, then braided it because it didn't have time to dry nicely that night.

Now...I can't get a single clump without frizz...I don't know what's changed...please help me, I look like medusa with those frizzy stringlets :'(
Originally Posted by Domino
Maybe all that's wrong is it's times for a good DT
High Priestess JessMess, follower of the Goddess of the Coiling Way and Confiscator of Concoctions in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

Okay...the first time I tried this, my hair was AMAZING. My curls and waves (2b/2c/3a) looked like flowing ribbons, people even stopped me on the street to ask where I had my hair done.

The next day I hennaed my roots as usual, then braided it because it didn't have time to dry nicely that night.

Now...I can't get a single clump without frizz...I don't know what's changed...please help me, I look like medusa with those frizzy stringlets :'(
Originally Posted by Domino
Maybe all that's wrong is it's times for a good DT
Originally Posted by Jess the Mess
I just did one a few days ago...normally my hair doesn't need DTs more than twice a month.
TIA!
Okay...the first time I tried this, my hair was AMAZING. My curls and waves (2b/2c/3a) looked like flowing ribbons, people even stopped me on the street to ask where I had my hair done.

The next day I hennaed my roots as usual, then braided it because it didn't have time to dry nicely that night.

Now...I can't get a single clump without frizz...I don't know what's changed...please help me, I look like medusa with those frizzy stringlets :'(
Originally Posted by Domino
Maybe all that's wrong is it's times for a good DT
Originally Posted by Jess the Mess
I just did one a few days ago...normally my hair doesn't need DTs more than twice a month.
TIA!
Originally Posted by Domino

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Henna tend to fry you out? Maybe you should go with a protein treatment, or DT.

BEst of luck


The front, top and part area of my hair loves this method. The back of my head not so much. I was doing this method for about a week and noticed that the back of my head looked like I was parting it. I realized that is where my shower water was hitting my head while rinsing upside down. Because I do not have a handheld shower thingy it's very difficult to change where I stand and get my hair rinsed properly. So, I think my thin hair was getting 'parted' by the water and I could not get my hair to go the right way after getting out of the shower so, unfortunately, I had to stop using this method.
Originally Posted by xcptnl
Aww I'm sorry. Do you think theres anyway you can turn the water pressure down? Even not putting the flow on full blast might help.
I'm starting to love my hair

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Loving the IceQueen Method

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Last edited by SephirothsChild15; 03-29-2009 at 10:47 AM.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Henna tend to fry you out? Maybe you should go with a protein treatment, or DT.
Originally Posted by SephirothsChild15
Well...henna doesn't "fry" my hair, but it feels a little dry for the next day because of all the excessive handling So maybe really I need a DT...well, I hoped that I could save my hair for today, but looks like I'll braid it again

Would this method work if I didn't leave condish in? And also, is there anything I can do to reduce the frizz all those scrunching causes?

TIA

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Henna tend to fry you out? Maybe you should go with a protein treatment, or DT.
Originally Posted by SephirothsChild15
Well...henna doesn't "fry" my hair, but it feels a little dry for the next day because of all the excessive handling So maybe really I need a DT...well, I hoped that I could save my hair for today, but looks like I'll braid it again

Would this method work if I didn't leave condish in? And also, is there anything I can do to reduce the frizz all those scrunching causes?

TIA
Originally Posted by Domino
I'd make certain I was using LOTS of the rinse out conditioner. Don't forget to scrunch in more once you flip over. Literally, my hair feels like slimy seaweed. Let it sit on your hair through the shower and it should help with the dryness and frizziness.
3a Colored, Layered
Currently loving:
Cond: CJ Strengthing, Marie Dean, CJ Curl Rehab
Leave -In: Marie Dean Red Clover, Coconut Lime Detangler and just about the entire line, CJ Rehab
Gelly: UFDCM, Paul Brown Geletine Goo
Towel - HG - Curls Like Us

Always use the "Icequeen" method for products
The front, top and part area of my hair loves this method. The back of my head not so much. I was doing this method for about a week and noticed that the back of my head looked like I was parting it. I realized that is where my shower water was hitting my head while rinsing upside down. Because I do not have a handheld shower thingy it's very difficult to change where I stand and get my hair rinsed properly. So, I think my thin hair was getting 'parted' by the water and I could not get my hair to go the right way after getting out of the shower so, unfortunately, I had to stop using this method.
Originally Posted by xcptnl
I have the same thing happen sometimes but it depends on how I'm applying products. If I see the back splitting apart after I put clips in, I just add a clip to the back to eliminate the part. HTH!
3a Colored, Layered
Currently loving:
Cond: CJ Strengthing, Marie Dean, CJ Curl Rehab
Leave -In: Marie Dean Red Clover, Coconut Lime Detangler and just about the entire line, CJ Rehab
Gelly: UFDCM, Paul Brown Geletine Goo
Towel - HG - Curls Like Us

Always use the "Icequeen" method for products
I love the IQ method too! I've adapted it a little to work for me. I don't like conditioner running all over my face when I rinse upside down (not good for my skin), so I low-poo,condition, detangle with a wide tooth comb, and rinse all right side up. Then I put in a dab more conditioner and rake it through really well, like I would a leave-in, then flip over and rinse upside down to get it all going that direction. Then while it's still dripping wet, I put in a dab of leave-in and run my fingers through from roots to ends out away from my head and then squeeze it all back together for more clumping (for me this keeps the back from feeling like it's going the wrong direction at the roots and looking funny in the back). Then I pump-n-scrunch in my other products upside down and voila. The pump-n-scrunch has really helped with product distribution for me.
April
3a/b, med texture, med porosity, low dews



The front, top and part area of my hair loves this method. The back of my head not so much. I was doing this method for about a week and noticed that the back of my head looked like I was parting it. I realized that is where my shower water was hitting my head while rinsing upside down. Because I do not have a handheld shower thingy it's very difficult to change where I stand and get my hair rinsed properly. So, I think my thin hair was getting 'parted' by the water and I could not get my hair to go the right way after getting out of the shower so, unfortunately, I had to stop using this method.
Originally Posted by xcptnl
I have the same thing happen sometimes but it depends on how I'm applying products. If I see the back splitting apart after I put clips in, I just add a clip to the back to eliminate the part. HTH!
Originally Posted by icequeen
Why didn't I think of this? I've just been dealing with it. TY
High Priestess JessMess, follower of the Goddess of the Coiling Way and Confiscator of Concoctions in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

Thanks for the clipping suggestions. Unfortunately my hair is quite thin so moving it around sometimes just makes is worse.

What I have been doing is after rinsing the final time in the shower I have been flipping upside down and while my hair is soaking wet I have been raking my hair down a bit (especially at the top of my head around my crown) and then putting in my leave in at that time - doing a bit of raking upside down and then scrunching. This has helped with volume (not as good as the icequeen method but OK) and keeps the back where it should be.
Central Massachusetts

One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
Del, I ended up with a bunch of "pump at work" posts /horrible flashbacks/, but nada about scrunching. Is any chance it's called somewhat different? "Pump and scrunch" gave me just 2 non-informative results. Sorry to be a PITA, but it does sound cool. TIA!
Originally Posted by masa_inn
Masa, you didn't find it cuz the official name seems to be "scrunch-n-pump" -- CSteen85 may be taking out a patent on it! (Personally, I think "pump and scrunch" is catchier.) At any rate, I'm going to try it out today. I do have good results with the Ice Queen method. I find that combing (with tons of condish) then scrunching LOTS is really crucial for my hair.

The scrunch & pump thread has been bumped to the first page, but here's the link for you:
The "Scrunch-n-Pump" = Clumps
2-something? Coarse, medium underneath. Mid-back. On CG since 5/9/07.
Washing COs: VO5 Blackberry, Suave Cherry
Detangle and leave-in: Sally's GVP Conditioning Balm -- I found my HG CO!
Seal with camellia oil
Leave-in: Aura cherry almond
Gels: Homemade FSG, Eco-styler
Plus: SOTC or smooth with camellia oil, JC Nourish & Shine
Homemade food-based DTs
RC color
The front, top and part area of my hair loves this method. The back of my head not so much. I was doing this method for about a week and noticed that the back of my head looked like I was parting it. I realized that is where my shower water was hitting my head while rinsing upside down. Because I do not have a handheld shower thingy it's very difficult to change where I stand and get my hair rinsed properly. So, I think my thin hair was getting 'parted' by the water and I could not get my hair to go the right way after getting out of the shower so, unfortunately, I had to stop using this method.
Originally Posted by xcptnl
I have the same thing happen sometimes but it depends on how I'm applying products. If I see the back splitting apart after I put clips in, I just add a clip to the back to eliminate the part. HTH!
Originally Posted by icequeen
I clipped the part in the back today and it worked perfectly. TY Icequeen
High Priestess JessMess, follower of the Goddess of the Coiling Way and Confiscator of Concoctions in the Order of the Curly Crusaders


Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Henna tend to fry you out? Maybe you should go with a protein treatment, or DT.
Originally Posted by SephirothsChild15
Well...henna doesn't "fry" my hair, but it feels a little dry for the next day because of all the excessive handling So maybe really I need a DT...well, I hoped that I could save my hair for today, but looks like I'll braid it again

Would this method work if I didn't leave condish in? And also, is there anything I can do to reduce the frizz all those scrunching causes?

TIA
Originally Posted by Domino
I and most others always need a DT after henna or cassia. I try to do protein treatments in between henna instead of just before or just after.
2C/3A/3B - mod. CG, med. to fine, normal to low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated, GTTT or Aim2Health 'poos as scalp needs, YTCarrots or Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein Trtmt & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite, KCCC, AO Mandarin Magic, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing then clips or clamps & air dry. Blend gray w/henna glosses

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Me! I just tried it today and can't believe how much better my hair curled.
I just wanted to chime in and say that I the IceQueen Method!

I've been having a bad hair year and I've tried everything in the world to get the frizz under control. Lately out of sheer desperation I've been layering products in my hair to tame the frizz. I've used everything from Jessicurl to KCCC with some good results but not good enough (especially for the price).

So today out of lack of products and money I tried the IceQueen method. Then, not having any other products I just put gel in my hair. And I have to say that my hair looks better today than it has in a year. I might actually have to break out my camera for this one. I just hope this isn't a one time fluke. I've had those before.
But no matter how it ends. I'm loving this method and so is my wallet.
I have med/coarse 3a/b curls with low porosity and normal elasticity. Thank you Live Curly Live Free!!

Basically CG since '06

Protein is my enemy

Mag. Sulfate gives me serious frizz

Loving: JCWDT, KCKT & KCCC

http://public.fotki.com/curlyrae/
Either my hair's too short for it to do much right now, or I'm not understanding the order ya'll are flipping back and forth, LOL - when I read all your descriptions, it's very confusing to me what you're doing rightside up and what you're doing upside down!
2C/3A/3B - mod. CG, med. to fine, normal to low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated, GTTT or Aim2Health 'poos as scalp needs, YTCarrots or Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein Trtmt & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite, KCCC, AO Mandarin Magic, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing then clips or clamps & air dry. Blend gray w/henna glosses

www.fotki.com/auntnett
Either my hair's too short for it to do much right now, or I'm not understanding the order ya'll are flipping back and forth, LOL - when I read all your descriptions, it's very confusing to me what you're doing rightside up and what you're doing upside down!
Originally Posted by auntnett
Hehehe, I was thinking the same thing yesterday when I was answering a question and I do it every day. Maybe just the original explanation can help.
I rake a large amt. of OneC through my hair in the shower, then flip over and scrunch it through until it feels like seaweed and squishes which gets the clumps going. It sits on my hair through the shower routine. I then rinse upside down in cool water and firmly scrunch in a small amt. of OneC
I guess the rest is tweaking it to work for your hair...but then again isn't everything we do to our hair?
High Priestess JessMess, follower of the Goddess of the Coiling Way and Confiscator of Concoctions in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

I just wanted to chime in and say that I the IceQueen Method!

I've been having a bad hair year and I've tried everything in the world to get the frizz under control. Lately out of sheer desperation I've been layering products in my hair to tame the frizz. I've used everything from Jessicurl to KCCC with some good results but not good enough (especially for the price).

So today out of lack of products and money I tried the IceQueen method. Then, not having any other products I just put gel in my hair. And I have to say that my hair looks better today than it has in a year. I might actually have to break out my camera for this one. I just hope this isn't a one time fluke. I've had those before.
But no matter how it ends. I'm loving this method and so is my wallet.
Originally Posted by CurlyRae
CurlyRae, you're my motivator. I'm going to log off and try this method. I also am fighting a losing battle with frizz and have 3b/c hair that's coarse like you describe yours. (And I live in the desert where there is little humidity. You should see me in the midwest in summer ) Mine is a similar length. But yours is gorgeous. It looks frizz-free. I have some BB gel and will try that with SheaM leave-in. Keep your fingers crossed for me!
I just wanted to chime in and say that I the IceQueen Method!

I've been having a bad hair year and I've tried everything in the world to get the frizz under control. Lately out of sheer desperation I've been layering products in my hair to tame the frizz. I've used everything from Jessicurl to KCCC with some good results but not good enough (especially for the price).

So today out of lack of products and money I tried the IceQueen method. Then, not having any other products I just put gel in my hair. And I have to say that my hair looks better today than it has in a year. I might actually have to break out my camera for this one. I just hope this isn't a one time fluke. I've had those before.
But no matter how it ends. I'm loving this method and so is my wallet.
Originally Posted by CurlyRae
CurlyRae, you're my motivator. I'm going to log off and try this method. I also am fighting a losing battle with frizz and have 3b/c hair that's coarse like you describe yours. (And I live in the desert where there is little humidity. You should see me in the midwest in summer ) Mine is a similar length. But yours is gorgeous. It looks frizz-free. I have some BB gel and will try that with SheaM leave-in. Keep your fingers crossed for me!
Originally Posted by curlyzan
To be fair, the pics in my signature are of the one and only day my hair looked good with CK.
Here are some pics of my hair today if you want to see them.
http://public.fotki.com/curlyrae/
I have med/coarse 3a/b curls with low porosity and normal elasticity. Thank you Live Curly Live Free!!

Basically CG since '06

Protein is my enemy

Mag. Sulfate gives me serious frizz

Loving: JCWDT, KCKT & KCCC

http://public.fotki.com/curlyrae/

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