Sulfates and skin: your opinion

Nearly my entire body is a sulfate-free zone. The only exception is my hands while I'm at school (clinicals and the like), and out in public bathrooms.

Going sulfate-free was the best decision that I could have made. I have very dry skin and the use of regular soaps makes my skin very dry to the point that it's painful. I started not using sulfates on my body years before I decided to forgo shampoos. For some reason the idea that taking out soaps made my skin feel better, less dry, didn't transfer to my dry hair issue.
mostly 3a/some 3b/2c at the nape
med-coarse and porous
Current routine:
Cleansing: Co-wash with V05, JCCC
Conditioners:AOHR
Leave-in: KCKT
Stylers:
HESMU, Joiwhip
Protein Treatment: Ion effective care treatment


i think I'm pretty much sulfate free.
I use OCM on my face and cleanse my body with the same CG conditioners I use on my hair. I also shave with conditioner. My usual winter-dry skin is much improved.
I make my own face and body moisturizers out of oils, shea butter, etc.
I make glycerine/olive oil/milk soaps for guests who might find it odd to wash with conditioners or oils. : )
In Western PA
Found NC in 2004. CG since 2-05, going grey since 9-05. 3B with some 3A.
Hair texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal except for the ends which are porous, elasticity-normal.
Suave & VO5 cond, LA Looks Sport Gel, oils, honey, vinegar.
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I like this idea of eliminating all sulphates. Can any of you recommend a sulphate free liquid hand soap and a sulphate free liquid dish soap?
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I'm hijacking my own thread to tell you guys about something awesome I figured out for carrying around oil to use as a moisturizer:
an empty lipgloss tube! The kind with a flocked applicator. Now I warn you, it will take A LOT of dish soap and makeup remover and various skinny objects (I used a thick twist tie to get into all the crevices) to clean the lipgloss out, especially if your tube is nowhere near empty like mine was. And, make sure you pick a tube with a very good seal, unlike I did :P But it's GREAT. I can carry it around, apply it easily without having to get it all over my hands...
I am pleased!

I think I am going to check that none of the (one or two) creams I use have silicones, and possibly switch to using conditioner as a body wash, along with some sugar for scrubbing. I love having an exfoliator in my everyday body wash, I actually get comments on my skin's softness!
For the face...maybe later. If all I needed was olive oil, I'd be all over it, but after doing the cg hair stuff hunt, I am not feeling like doing the castor oil hunt. ( I also KNOW I would not bother doing the whole wash cloth on your face until it cools thing regularly.)
3a in Paris
I use:
Garnier Ultra Doux conditioners
High in glycerin conditioners
As much gel as possible
Testing out flax seed gel
Plopping, for around 30 minutes
Pixiecurl drying
Pineappling

I wanted to tell you that I wash my face with a bottle of sunflower/flax seed oil. It came together in the oil section of the grocery store. I don't use any castor oil. Since I don't really have acne, I worried it would dry my face out too much. As long as the oils are not comodogenic (or something like that) i think they are fine to use.

Mix of 3s, thick, coarse, medium porosity

Current hair styling technique: rake with a scrunch at the end. (works with my coarse hair)

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Known HGs: KCCC, homemade fsg, honey
sulfates give me massive amounts of body acne so I avoid them. a few other ingredients irritate my skin too.
I try to stick to ingredients that I would feel comfortable eating.
I use various oils on my face - jojoba, sunflower, safflower, hempseed. I usually mix a little castor oil in with the other oil, but not always.
Castor oil is cheap and easy to find. It's in most grocery and drug stores in the medicine section, usually near the laxatives.
And I don't do the washcloth part at all. I massage in the oils, wipe off with a tissue, then wash the rest off with conditioner.
In Western PA
Found NC in 2004. CG since 2-05, going grey since 9-05. 3B with some 3A.
Hair texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal except for the ends which are porous, elasticity-normal.
Suave & VO5 cond, LA Looks Sport Gel, oils, honey, vinegar.
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Oh shoot, my mistake... the sulfate-free face cleanser isn't Aveeno, it's PhisoDerm.
I use various oils on my face - jojoba, sunflower, safflower, hempseed. I usually mix a little castor oil in with the other oil, but not always.
Castor oil is cheap and easy to find. It's in most grocery and drug stores in the medicine section, usually near the laxatives.
And I don't do the washcloth part at all. I massage in the oils, wipe off with a tissue, then wash the rest off with conditioner.
Originally Posted by jeepcurlygurl
Well, my issue is that here only pharmacies have those medicine-y things--even plain old pain meds are only found in one. It's actually why I haven't tried the aspirin mask even though I'd really like to--I don't want to have to explain why I need the uncoated ones, please (I don't enjoy having to talk to people to do my shopping, I like being free to look...I'm probably very american in that regard XD)
Great to hear that the washcloth part is unneccesary, though, I might try it sometime then.

tc, that's a pretty good concept actually, don't stick on yourself anything you wouldn't eat! Skin does absorb stuff after all.
3a in Paris
I use:
Garnier Ultra Doux conditioners
High in glycerin conditioners
As much gel as possible
Testing out flax seed gel
Plopping, for around 30 minutes
Pixiecurl drying
Pineappling

Well, my issue is that here only pharmacies have those medicine-y things--even plain old pain meds are only found in one. It's actually why I haven't tried the aspirin mask even though I'd really like to--I don't want to have to explain why I need the uncoated ones, please (I don't enjoy having to talk to people to do my shopping, I like being free to look...I'm probably very american in that regard XD)
Originally Posted by lody
I live in a small town and can't find a lot of things here so I just get stuff online and never set foot in a store sometimes (tho I do enjoy browsing the grocery stores for hair/face/body stuff). Almost all my oils other than castor were purchased on Ebay.
In Western PA
Found NC in 2004. CG since 2-05, going grey since 9-05. 3B with some 3A.
Hair texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal except for the ends which are porous, elasticity-normal.
Suave & VO5 cond, LA Looks Sport Gel, oils, honey, vinegar.
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I also cut out sulfates from skin care. Silicones and mineral oil as well actually (from lotions).

I was kind of at a loss with how to clean my skin at first until I discovered the Oil Cleansing Method. I knew I had to try it because I reacted the same to that as I at first reacted to CG ("no way").

http://www.theoilcleansingmethod.com/
Originally Posted by Laura Lee
Is there a substitute for castor oil? I use this on my edges to make them thicker and I'd rather not have thick eyebrows...
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I think sulfates strip too much moisture and oil from skin. Conditioners are great for bathing with. Girly bits only need a water dampened wash cloth.
For those who wash their bodies with conditioner, what do you use for deodorant?
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For those who wash their bodies with conditioner, what do you use for deodorant?
Originally Posted by wild_sasparilla
Secret with Baby Powder.
When I cut out sulfates, mineral oil, etc, I stopped using them in my skin care products too. My skin is so much better. It is softer and I think it is more balanced and not dry or too oily. I use this lavander soap bar with bits of dried lavander in it from trader joes. They have different kinds of soaps that smell yummy. I use this soap bar on my face as well and as soon as I dry my face, not completely, I rub a light oil in...it seems my severe dry skin problem is gone. It worsened when winter came but now my acne( which I never had so bad before in my life) is gone and my skin is loving it...I have been doing this for 2 months.

I am along with being curly...using mostly natural products now.

I sugges you become familiar with ingredients and what they are used for.
OS
Fine/Medium
High sheen
Spongy

Normal porousity
Healthy CBL unstretched Dec 2009
And APL unstretched August 2010

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For those who wash their bodies with conditioner, what do you use for deodorant?
Originally Posted by wild_sasparilla
Secret with Baby Powder.
Originally Posted by Speckla
Is it the spray? I'd think all the sticks (certainly the ones I've checked do) have 'cones and stuff to make them...stick. lol Especially 'xanes. If I had any of those on, I'd be too scared to wash with something other than sulfates, because I'd then touch my face and hair! You can even tell when your deodorant isn't fully removed...eeew. So yeah, all this just to say, is it the spray/roll-on/stick?
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For those who wash their bodies with conditioner, what do you use for deodorant?
Originally Posted by wild_sasparilla
Secret with Baby Powder.
Originally Posted by Speckla
Is it the spray? I'd think all the sticks (certainly the ones I've checked do) have 'cones and stuff to make them...stick. lol Especially 'xanes. If I had any of those on, I'd be too scared to wash with something other than sulfates, because I'd then touch my face and hair! You can even tell when your deodorant isn't fully removed...eeew. So yeah, all this just to say, is it the spray/roll-on/stick?
Originally Posted by wild_sasparilla
Solid. It comes off just fine with using a nubby washcloth and scrubbing.
Originally Posted by pulchri2dinous
Is there a substitute for castor oil? I use this on my edges to make them thicker and I'd rather not have thick eyebrows...[/QUOTE]

If you read the original OCM thread, people discuss other oils they use.

Oil Cleansing Method, or OCM vs Aspirin mask??

My hair hates castor oil, but I use it as 10% of my mixture. Originally, the other 90% was grapeseed oil. I switched that to sunflower oil. Now, I add a T each of rice bran, Japanese camellia, sweet almond and apricot kernel oils in the 4oz mix. My skin is doing well and my dermatologist thinks it's the best it's been in 10 years.

Why not try a little castor oil--you already have it.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

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